Kopech: Dodger trade was a blessing

[southsider2k5]

https://dodgerblue.com/michael-kopech-dodgers-trade-was-a-blessing/2024/12/04/

[almagest]

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

https://dodgerblue.com/michael-kopech-dodgers-trade-was-a-blessing/2024/12/04/

Yeah of course it was. He went from the worst team ever to winning a World Series.

[SoCalChiSox]

He ain't wrong

[Balta1701]

Now do Vargas.

[Bob Sacamano]

No s%*#. Any of us could have told you that.

[oldsox]

Nobody ever said Kopech was particularly bright.

[hi8is]

34 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Now do Vargas.

 

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

43 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

https://dodgerblue.com/michael-kopech-dodgers-trade-was-a-blessing/2024/12/04/

This guy saying this out loud is amazing to me:

"I was in a position to where I hate to say I was going through the motions. You know you’re not playing for anything other than your own career, and when you don’t want to play a selfish game because it’s not a selfish game, it makes it really hard."

The head on Kopech's shoulders is not one I'd want to trade places with. For a professional athlete who has proven nothing to go through the motions is fascinating, and also a huge red flag. If I was a GM, I'd never sign a guy who admits such a thing to any contract.

[Baron]

3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This guy saying this out loud is amazing to me:

"I was in a position to where I hate to say I was going through the motions. You know you’re not playing for anything other than your own career, and when you don’t want to play a selfish game because it’s not a selfish game, it makes it really hard."

The head on Kopech's shoulders is not one I'd want to trade places with. For a professional athlete who has proven nothing to go through the motions is fascinating, and also a huge red flag. If I was a GM, I'd never sign a guy who admits such a thing to any contract.

I was going to say that's not a good look. 

 

[2Deep]

5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This guy saying this out loud is amazing to me:

"I was in a position to where I hate to say I was going through the motions. You know you’re not playing for anything other than your own career, and when you don’t want to play a selfish game because it’s not a selfish game, it makes it really hard."

The head on Kopech's shoulders is not one I'd want to trade places with. For a professional athlete who has proven nothing to go through the motions is fascinating, and also a huge red flag. If I was a GM, I'd never sign a guy who admits such a thing to any contract.

He said a lot in so little.

This is absolute garbage coming from a pro athlete being paid millions to play a kids game.

Zero respect for this 

[hi8is]

7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

For a professional athlete who has proven nothing to go through the motions is fascinating, and also a huge red flag.

5 minutes ago, Baron said:

I was going to say that's not a good look. 

I’m pretty sure the majority of human beings would struggle in similar ways if they had to endure being part of a club that ranged from the worst team in the league to the worst team in history.

It isn’t a big deal in my book.

[JoeC]

Not a good look, but meh. Points for honesty?

He's now proven himself to be a valuable bullpen arm on a world series contending team.

[Baron]

Ultimately despite Varagas being garbage this guy is a fool. There were some rumblings when we acquired him that he was but it seems like he isn't growing up and can't keep his mouth shut. Good riddance. 

We can bad mouth our team all we want. But there's people you don't want on the team and he's one of them. 

[hi8is]

3 minutes ago, Baron said:

Ultimately despite Varagas being garbage this guy is a fool. There were some rumblings when we acquired him that he was but it seems like he isn't growing up and can't keep his mouth shut. Good riddance. 

We can bad mouth our team all we want. But there's people you don't want on the team and he's one of them. 

Dude’s reputation of being a hot head has certainly evened out over the years. 
 

That said:

- I won’t miss him.

- He was one of many huge disappointments.

- I won’t be surprised at all if he realizes his potential in LA… finally.

[Harold's Leg Lift]

The reason why there's a losing culture is because players like Kopech, Robert, Benintendi, Moncada, Eloy etc didn't play up to their abilities.  Move on from all of them and never look back.  

[Kyyle23]

21 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Nobody ever said Kopech was particularly bright.

Not sure this was a particularly dumb statement.  Seems pretty true 

[Tony]

14 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This guy saying this out loud is amazing to me:

"I was in a position to where I hate to say I was going through the motions. You know you’re not playing for anything other than your own career, and when you don’t want to play a selfish game because it’s not a selfish game, it makes it really hard."

The head on Kopech's shoulders is not one I'd want to trade places with. For a professional athlete who has proven nothing to go through the motions is fascinating, and also a huge red flag. If I was a GM, I'd never sign a guy who admits such a thing to any contract.

I think it's incredibly honest and if you gave truth serum to the 2024 White Sox, my guess is a majority of the players would say the same thing. They won 41 games. By July, from a simple human perspective, I think it's a very natural reaction. Of course I would want every player to be giving 100% all the time. I also don't think it's realistic. And while I completely understand baseball is different than most other professional fields, if you're at a job or with a company that has zero direction, poor leadership, poor training and poor infrastructure...when you roll up to your cube each day, are you going "all-in" for that company each day, giving it max effort all 40 hours a week? For most...probably not? 

I'm not defending Kopech and saying his actions are acceptable, but I'd also be a liar if I said I didn't understand where he was coming from with that quote. 

[Iwritecode]

5 minutes ago, Tony said:

 if you're at a job or with a company that has zero direction, poor leadership, poor training and poor infrastructure...when you roll up to your cube each day, are you going "all-in" for that company each day, giving it max effort all 40 hours a week? For most...probably not?

^^^This.

The players are human. They knew they were a shitty team going nowhere and that it wasn't going to get better any time soon.

[TheFutureIsNear]

5 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Not sure this was a particularly dumb statement.  Seems pretty true 

We all know the organization is an utter dumpster fire, but it’s not ok for a former player to say it out loud….apparently.

 

I don’t blame anyone for being extremely happy to get away from the Sox. At some point when EVERY player fails you have to stop  blaming the individual players. 

[TheBooneLoganEra]

16 minutes ago, Tony said:

 if you're at a job or with a company that has zero direction, poor leadership, poor training and poor infrastructure...when you roll up to your cube each day, are you going "all-in" for that company each day, giving it max effort all 40 hours a week? For most...probably not? 

If I'm playing Major League Baseball for a living 100 percent yes I am. If I sell insurance no. Highly false equivalency. 

[southsider2k5]

34 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This guy saying this out loud is amazing to me:

"I was in a position to where I hate to say I was going through the motions. You know you’re not playing for anything other than your own career, and when you don’t want to play a selfish game because it’s not a selfish game, it makes it really hard."

The head on Kopech's shoulders is not one I'd want to trade places with. For a professional athlete who has proven nothing to go through the motions is fascinating, and also a huge red flag. If I was a GM, I'd never sign a guy who admits such a thing to any contract.

I was waiting to see who would catch this.  We keep hearing about how lazy and bad of teammates some of these guys are, but Michael Kopech is the only I have seen who keeps saying the quiet parts out loud. 

[Tony]

25 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

If I'm playing Major League Baseball for a living 100 percent yes I am. If I sell insurance no. Highly false equivalency. 

Whats the difference in your eyes?

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, hi8is said:

 

https://files.catbox.moe/jlakeo.mp4

[Chicago White Sox]

2 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

Now do Vargas.

A curse?

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

The reason why there's a losing culture is because players like Kopech, Robert, Benintendi, Moncada, Eloy etc didn't play up to their abilities.  Move on from all of them and never look back.  

But then that’s nearly everyone.  A team-wide infection.  Anderson, Grandal, pretty much the entire pitching staff after spider tack, all the veteran bullpen guys but Hendriks, the only common denominator is the White Sox.

The one who guy with a really positive outlook and persistent approach was Burger, but we got rid of him, too.

The somewhat likable players like Vaughn and Sheets are/were average to below average…so doesn’t leave you much to build around other than 3 pitching prospects and Quero/Montgomery, if they can actually stay healthy and live up to their potential.