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10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

It’s absolutely wild, but none of this is good for the game.  And I’m not giving the cheap owners a free pass, but the lack of a real cap (and floor) is a legit problem if you care about parity at all.  Unfortunately, the MLB is all about making sure the large market teams are deep into the playoffs every year.

And the rich get richer…

 

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17 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

It’s absolutely wild, but none of this is good for the game.  And I’m not giving the cheap owners a free pass, but the lack of a real cap (and floor) is a legit problem if you care about parity at all.  Unfortunately, the MLB is all about making sure the large market teams are deep into the playoffs every year.

That falls on the players. The union is never going to agree to a cap. 

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9 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I fucking despite the Dodgers and anyone who thinks this is somehow good for the sport (and yes I get Conforto himself isn’t that good).

Finding an answer to the competitive imbalance of payrolls is imperative IMO.  Very few teams have any realistic path to winning a WS.  

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8 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

That falls on the players. The union is never going to agree to a cap. 

If they had an intelligent leader who actually cared about the whole union and not just the top 5 guys, this would have already been agreed too.

While elite salaries soar, mid-tier pay has gone backwards (comparatively) and veterans are being priced out. 

Additionally, players are losing revenue share compared to rest of the leagues. A cap fixes and guarantees them a set percentage of revenue. 

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1 hour ago, poppysox said:

Finding an answer to the competitive imbalance of payrolls is imperative IMO.  Very few teams have any realistic path to winning a WS.  

The problem for the Sox runs deeper than that though.  Jerry as an owner is already a competitive imbalance because he doesn’t want to spend a reasonable amount of money on free agents to keep up with the times, much less Juan Soto money.

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11 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Those forum members who want us to participate in the Soto-type deals will require a Cohen-type ownership.  This deal could be a disaster for our current type of ownership.

And it's not just "Soto-type deals" that will dig us out of the current situation. It's creating a pipeline of talent that can be supplemented. 

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7 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And it's not just "Soto-type deals" that will dig us out of the current situation. It's creating a pipeline of talent that can be supplemented. 

Jerry-type organizations have both the wherewithal and the obligation to spend in the second tier of ownership.  By that, I mean 200+ million.  That payroll range all but eliminates "Soto-type deals" but puts a watchable team on the field.  

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Guys, first off it isn’t happening.  Second off, it’s not happening.

 

third off, it’s not happening.  Keep your Elon fan fiction stories on X, it will play better there 

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47 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Guys, first off it isn’t happening.  Second off, it’s not happening.

 

third off, it’s not happening.  Keep your Elon fan fiction stories on X, it will play better there 

This is the last warning.  The thread has been cleaned out and split, and I don't want to do it again.

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8 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

Did all the GMs get drunk last night after the Soto deal?  There seems to be no news of anything yet.  Kind of expected things to get going earlier.

After this deal, every free agent probably went back and added 25% to their demands.

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5 hours ago, poppysox said:

Finding an answer to the competitive imbalance of payrolls is imperative IMO.  Very few teams have any realistic path to winning a WS.  

The 2023 World Series was the Texas Rangers vs. the Arizona Diamondbacks. 

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3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

The 2023 World Series was the Texas Rangers vs. the Arizona Diamondbacks. 

Yeah, the key is to just get into the playoffs with as many bites at the apple as possible. The problem is the Sox just don't seem all that interested in that.

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3 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Yeah, the key is to just get into the playoffs with as many bites at the apple as possible. The problem is the Sox just don't seem all that interested in that.

MLB definitely is happy when you get a Yankees Dodgers World Series, no discussion here. The big spending teams have an advantage. The final 4 teams this year were the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets....and the freaking Cleveland Guardians.

For teams that are poorly run, baseball runs poorly for them. For teams that are well run, there is a path to get through, or at least there has been for the last few years unless things have completely changed now that spending has resumed. It isn't easy and you may have more hurdles than the Dodgers, but it can certainly be done.

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25 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Wow, very weird the Blue Jays didn’t tender him a contract

Gotta think they know something about his arm, last year was pretty rough for him

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