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WhiteSox2023 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Who wants to bet the return is better than one Jake Eder? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Miami is expected to receive a package of three Minor Leaguers in return that includes SS/2B Echedry Vargas, Texas' No. 17 prospect, and shortstop Max Acosta. The teams have not confirmed the trade. Only Corey Seager (30) hit more homers than Burger in the Rangers' lineup last season. https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/233033/ Looks like Mendoza is at least three to four years away, was a solid LH starter in A ball in 2024 (2.18 ERA in the Carolina League) and will be making the jump to High A in 2025. Strikeouts 44 Walks 63 Hittable 69 SO/BB 58 vsPower 69 Hitting 0 Durability 81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 30 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Who wants to bet the return is better than one Jake Eder? Well since Eder seems to be a bust that is a bet anyone will take. 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Yea, especially for this team, I sure would rather have those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Marlins must really like Acosta to commit a 40 man spot to him. He dropped from 100 Ks in 2023 to 58 last year and he just had a good AFL stint, so there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 (edited) Andrew Vaughn must have negative/underwater trade value going by this deal... These were the same arguments for not trading him ... now being espoused by Marlins' fans. Edited December 11 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 6 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Who wants to bet the return is better than one Jake Eder? Oops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 6 hours ago, hi8is said: Well since Eder seems to be a bust that is a bet anyone will take. 😆 I've been assured by this very website that Jake Eder is exactly the type of guy you take a chance on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 6 hours ago, Autumn Dreamin said: Marlins must really like Acosta to commit a 40 man spot to him. He dropped from 100 Ks in 2023 to 58 last year and he just had a good AFL stint, so there's that. Yea because otherwise I don’t get it. A 45 FV prospect and two prospects outside the Marlins T30 is arguably worse than Eder’s 50 FV and pushing for T100 mlb prospect status at the time of the first trade. Mind you, Burger had 38 homers in a little over 700 ABs and had become a big fan favorite in Miami since the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 37 minutes ago, wegner said: I've been assured by this very website that Jake Eder was exactly the type of guy you take a chance on Yep… high risk high reward who seems to be yet another Kenny Hahn bust-o-matic special 2000. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Good for Jake, going to a (theoretically) competitive team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Oops Oops what? You’d rather have a 26 year old pitcher with a career minor league ERA over 5 than three young prospects? Good luck with that. For someone who has talked about getting back quantity in trades, that really makes no sense. Edited December 11 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Jake is going to be hitting a superball playing in Arlington in the summer. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Oops what? You’d rather have a 26 year old pitcher with a career minor league ERA over 5 than three young prospects? Good luck with that. For someone who has talked about getting back quantity in trades, that really makes no sense. I thought the trade was incredibly dumb, but he is 26 now. Not 26 when they traded for him. That's misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 4 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: I thought the trade was incredibly dumb, but he is 26 now. Not 26 when they traded for him. That's misleading. ”Who wants to bet the return is better than one Jake Eder?” I never said Jake Eder at the time the Sox traded Burger. It’s also been a year and a half later for Burger too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: ”Who wants to bet the return is better than one Jake Eder?” I never said Jake Eder at the time the Sox traded Burger. It’s also been a year and a half later for Burger too. Is the return better? Looks like it's just a little more garbage than one piece of garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 3 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Is the return better? Looks like it's just a little more garbage than one piece of garbage. You wouldn’t trade Eder for those three prospects right now? Eder who fell to #22 on the Sox top 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 I really hope Burger can stay healthy next year, I think he is going to make a huge impact. Good trade from the Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Yea because otherwise I don’t get it. A 45 FV prospect and two prospects outside the Marlins T30 is arguably worse than Eder’s 50 FV and pushing for T100 mlb prospect status at the time of the first trade. Mind you, Burger had 38 homers in a little over 700 ABs and had become a big fan favorite in Miami since the trade. I’m not sure what “at the time of the initial trade” matters at this point? The same 1.5 years have passed for both Burger and Eder. Eder has pretty much busted and Burger has continued to hit some dongs in the majors without any defense. The Marlins got back the Rangers #17 ranked prospect, plus two additional prospects, for Burger. Meanwhile, Eder is currently the White Sox #22 ranked prospect. Edited December 11 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 38 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Oops what? You’d rather have a 26 year old pitcher with a career minor league ERA over 5 than three young prospects? Good luck with that. For someone who has talked about getting back quantity in trades, that really makes no sense. At the time of trade, Eder was a 50 FV guy and just outside T100 lists. Add to that, Burger supposedly increased his trade value since moving to the Marlins and this trade return looks extremely underwhelming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’m not sure what “at the time of the initial trade” matters at this point? The same 1.5 years have passed for both Burger and Eder. Eder has pretty much busted and Burger has continued to hit some dongs in the majors without any defense. The Marlins got back the Rangers #17 ranked prospect, plus two additional prospects, for Burger. Meanwhile, Eder is currently the White Sox #22 ranked prospect. Then the Chris Sale trade was one of the worst in Sox history considering how Moncada and Kopech turned out with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 The reality is Burger never had much trade value and never will. I said it a year ago but he’s an annual non-tender candidate once he gets into his arbitration years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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