Lyle Moooton Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 A couple ppl in here are disappointed the return is good lol 2 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 I’ll give him props on this one. Like it a lot more than the Cease deal. Now do Robert. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 3 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Development, development, development. I will not get excited about any "prospect haul" ever again as long as Reinsdorf and the people he puts in charge run this team. We had a top 10 prospect in Montgomery at this time last year, he flamed out bad in AAA. Now we're suppose to expect to take both Teel and Braden (from a well ran organization) and finish up their development portion? Sorry, not excited. I am still digesting this trade. Of Boston's top four prospects for the White Sox, Teel is the worst fit. Catching prospects are really difficult to hit and get value on, plus the fit with Quero seems awkward. Montgomery has pop and a big arm, but is coming off an ankle injury and is several years away from the majors. Lengthy development path ahead, with hit tool questions that need to be answered. Mediroth can hit and looks like a future utility player at the MLB level Gonzalez is most likely a reliever, but Sox can continue to develop him as a potential starter. I'm sure this was intentional, but it is noteworthy to me what the Red Sox did not trade. They kept their three up the middle top prospects (Anthony/Campbell/Mayer), as well as their toolsy teenage prospects who could be worth even more in a year (Arias, Cespedes, Bleis) This may have been the best that Getz was offered, but I really wish the Sox would have focused on up the middle talent as the return. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 4 minutes ago, Jake said: Ultimately, strong catchers are so hard to come by it's hard to complain about getting multiple prospects. If they both pan out, Sox will manage. Yeah just don’t love the idea of one moving to 1B. Either one loses value in that scenario. Unless one can actually hit like a 1B should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, steveno89 said: I am still digesting this trade. Of Boston's top four prospects for the White Sox, Teel is the worst fit. Catching prospects are really difficult to hit and get value on, plus the fit with Quero seems awkward. Montgomery has pop and a big arm, but is coming off an ankle injury and is several years away from the majors. Lengthy development path ahead, with hit tool questions that need to be answered. Mediroth can hit and looks like a future utility player at the MLB level Gonzalez is most likely a reliever, but Sox can continue to develop him as a potential starter. I'm sure this was intentional, but it is noteworthy to me what the Red Sox did not trade. They kept their three up the middle top prospects (Anthony/Campbell/Mayer), as well as their toolsy teenage prospects who could be worth even more in a year (Arias, Cespedes, Bleis) This may have been the best that Getz was offered, but I really wish the Sox would have focused on up the middle talent as the return. Agreed. They got time to figure it out. This stuff will sort itself out later. Edited December 11 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 5 minutes ago, Quin said: Absolutely hated Teel... being taken 1 pick before the Sox a few years ago. They'll, hopefully, figure out something with him and Quero. Love Montgomery being included. Getz did a good job here. Agreed. People are resisting giving up Top 100 bats and we got two. Getz did well. Maybe move Quero for a bat at another position? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I’ll give him props on this one. Like it a lot more than the Cease deal. Now do Robert. Yeah flip him to PHI for Crawford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 41 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: The Sox created Crochet's value. 40 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: No, crochet created his value. You'd have to be delusional to believe otherwise. JFC they're BOTH responsible. Why do we talk like this? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 4 minutes ago, Lyle Moooton said: A couple ppl in here are disappointed the return is good lol If they’re being honest with themselves, flipping Crochet for 2 - 55 FV and 2 - 45 FV prospects would have seemed impossible as recently as 6 months ago. Perhaps the Cease trade may ultimately underwhelm but this trade may make up for it. That’s what happens when you make a bunch of trades during a rebuild. Some look great, some not so much. There will be plenty more opportunities to flip vets for prospects over the next 24 months but those were certainly the two biggest chips they had since they already blew it by not trading Robert last winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 39 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: We managed to reget Nick Madrigal. Wonderful I’m hoping he has more power. Someone get him on some gear. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 15 minutes ago, fathom said: Ha, fwiw, Fangraphs said Gonzalez was the most disappointing prospect of 2024 when they updated Boston’s system He was their #7 prospect heading into 2024 per BA. He may have regressed this past season, but he’s still young and likely a guy that Bannister had his eye on. He’s the perfect dart throw as the fourth piece in a deal like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 6 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Yeah flip him to PHI for Crawford. This would be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: He was their #7 prospect heading into 2024 per BA. He may have regressed this past season, but he’s still young and likely a guy that Bannister had his eye on. He’s the perfect dart throw as the fourth piece in a deal like this. And the 11 and 14 prospects in their system could be top 5-6 in others 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 nice deal. i’m pleasantly surprised. not at all worried about adding teel with quero already in the system. just accumulate high-value assets and sort it out later. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 26 minutes ago, fathom said: Pretty sure KLaw has the two main guys in his top 40 Oh dang. Klaw is going to have the Sox as a top 5 system now. Quite the turnaround from bottom 2 a couple years ago. If they tank another 2-3 years like the Orioles recently did, the system will look very nice. But unlike the Orioles, the Sox don’t have the good fortune of picking top 5 every year in a row while they tank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 22 minutes ago, fathom said: Sox lost 120 games and look to be worse with no hope next few years. I’m shocked some are upset they now have two potential starting catchers. I’m not complaining about the trade, but two starting caliber catchers isn’t going to help us when we have massive holes in CF, SS, etc. But for now, I’m just happy he got quality positional talent and we can worry about roster construction later. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 This is an awesome deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m not complaining about the trade, but two starting caliber catchers isn’t going to help us when we have massive holes in CF, SS, etc. But for now, I’m just happy he got quality positional talent and we can worry about roster construction later. We just need guys that can hit the ball out of the infield. I don't care where they play, those are fine tuning problems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Wonderful trade. Also LOL at the thought the Sox created Crochet. He practically had to demand to be a starting pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Gonzalez had a real Jekyll and Hyde season. First 9 starts, through June 21: 39.2 IP, 38 R (!), 37 H, 29 BB, 9 HBP, 4 WP, 3 HR, 4 balks (!?), 43 K. Final 10 starts, starting June 28: 44 IP, 22 H, 10 R (1.84 ERA), 17 BB, 1 HBP, 1 WP, 0 balks, 3 HR, 49 K So I'd like to know what was going on starting in late June. Pretty clear the Sox believe/hope that he solved something. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 In case no one posted this wonderful typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 So this was our Super Bowl. See you next year at the Draft lottery 2 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 50 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I guess looking at the whole package, it is a bit more than a expected, but a lot less than I had hoped for. I am really surprised no one else stepped up to beat this with Boston's top 3 off of the board. Kind of how I'm feeling too. Better than previous Getz' returns, but I'm not blown away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Seems like a nice return....I would have liked to get another Luis Basabe like last time but you can't always get what you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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