Texsox Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/11/us/new-jersey-drone-sightings-investigation/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14 Share Posted December 14 Apparently now that this is a thing, people looked at the videos and there’s some combination of people freaking out about planes, helicopters, and occasionally, Venus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 The governor of New Jersey was freaked out by the Constellation Orion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 17 Author Share Posted December 17 Orson Wells would be proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 What is wrong with our country? Why is there not outrage and people demanding the government tell us what the bleep is going on? Left, right, whatever ... politics is to the point we aren't briefed on what the hell is going on in our skies? Uh, some people fly reguarly and deserve to know if their plane is gonna get blasted by some sort of weapon!! What's going on with these drones Mr. President?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 38 minutes ago, greg775 said: What is wrong with our country? Why is there not outrage and people demanding the government tell us what the bleep is going on? Left, right, whatever ... politics is to the point we aren't briefed on what the hell is going on in our skies? Uh, some people fly reguarly and deserve to know if their plane is gonna get blasted by some sort of weapon!! What's going on with these drones Mr. President?? Cause the ones that are drones (unlike people freaking out over planes, helicopters and the aforementioned constellations) are probably everyday chodes with their own drones violating FAA laws flying them around and not some national security breach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, Quin said: Cause the ones that are drones (unlike people freaking out over planes, helicopters and the aforementioned constellations) are probably everyday chodes with their own drones violating FAA laws flying them around and not some national security breach. I read that two air force bases were shut down today cause of drones. Do a google on drones and air force bases. There's something weird going on when one president currently office is saying nothing about this and the next guy is ready willing and able to attack all the drones. And right now we go with Biden's silence since he's in charge and in a month we go with Trump blasting the bleep out of all drones. I'm gonna be so mad if our grid goes down at some point! We pay a lot of money in our lives in taxes and the government's No. 1 duty is to protect us. So people should demand such protection and not play politics on EVERYTHING. https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/16/us/us-air-force-base-closes-airspace-drone-sightings-hnk/index.html Edited December 17 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, Quin said: probably I'm sick of 'probably!' I pay taxes. I want facts when there is something that 'some' people say is unusual behavior in our skies! What's so difficult about telling people what's going on?? These politicians and government officials earn a LOT of money on the taxpayer dime. Edited December 17 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 7 hours ago, greg775 said: I'm sick of 'probably!' I pay taxes. I want facts when there is something that 'some' people say is unusual behavior in our skies! What's so difficult about telling people what's going on?? These politicians and government officials earn a LOT of money on the taxpayer dime. You live in Lawrence. Write a letter to your major metro paper, the KC Star, and ask them to investigate if you think this supposed epidemic is happening near you Otherwise, here's a joint statement from several federal agencies: https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4006538/dhs-fbi-faa-dod-joint-statement-on-ongoing-response-to-reported-drone-sightings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 10 hours ago, greg775 said: What is wrong with our country? Why is there not outrage and people demanding the government tell us what the bleep is going on? Left, right, whatever ... politics is to the point we aren't briefed on what the hell is going on in our skies? Uh, some people fly reguarly and deserve to know if their plane is gonna get blasted by some sort of weapon!! What's going on with these drones Mr. President?? How did I know exactly who this post would be from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: How did I know exactly who this post would be from. Some people think they as taxpayers and good citizens deserve answers when the country is up in arms about drones. You've got one future president saying it's a big deal; another basically saying nothing. You've got enemies all over the world. Is it too much to ask for daily updates on drones? Edited December 17 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 54 minutes ago, greg775 said: Some people think they as taxpayers and good citizens deserve answers when the country is up in arms about drones. You've got one future president saying it's a big deal; another basically saying nothing. You've got enemies all over the world. Is it too much to ask for daily updates on drones? Some people read the responses that provide the answers to the questions that you are so outraged about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 58 minutes ago, greg775 said: Some people think they as taxpayers and good citizens deserve answers when the country is up in arms about drones. You've got one future president saying it's a big deal; another basically saying nothing. You've got enemies all over the world. Is it too much to ask for daily updates on drones? I would much rather see my tax dollars go to educating the general public much better than it currently does, especially in critical thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 1 hour ago, greg775 said: Some people think they as taxpayers and good citizens deserve answers when the country is up in arms about drones. You've got one future president saying it's a big deal; another basically saying nothing. You've got enemies all over the world. Is it too much to ask for daily updates on drones? Cause you're demonstrating bad media literacy and didn't read the statement by the FBI, Defense Dept., FAA and Homeland Security Quote There are more than one million drones lawfully registered with the FAA in the United States and there are thousands of commercial, hobbyist and law enforcement drones lawfully in the sky on any given day. With the technology landscape evolving, we expect that number to increase over time. FBI has received tips of more than 5,000 reported drone sightings in the last few weeks with approximately 100 leads generated, and the federal government is supporting state and local officials in investigating these reports. Consistent with each of our unique missions and authorities, we are quickly working to prioritize and follow these leads. We have sent advanced detection technology to the region. And we have sent trained visual observers. Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones. We have not identified anything anomalous and do not assess the activity to date to present a national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast. That said, we recognize the concern among many communities. We continue to support state and local authorities with advanced detection technology and support of law enforcement. We urge Congress to enact counter-UAS legislation when it reconvenes that would extend and expand existing counter-drone authorities to identify and mitigate any threat that may emerge. Additionally, there have been a limited number of visual sightings of drones over military facilities in New Jersey and elsewhere, including within restricted air space. Such sightings near or over DoD installations are not new. DoD takes unauthorized access over its airspace seriously and coordinates closely with federal, state, and local law enforcement authorities, as appropriate. Local commanders are actively engaged to ensure there are appropriate detection and mitigation measures in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Some people read the responses that provide the answers to the questions that you are so outraged about I read the defense department statement. It said: "Additionally, there have been a limited number of visual sightings of drones over military facilities in New Jersey and elsewhere, including within restricted air space. Such sightings near or over DoD installations are not new. DoD takes unauthorized access over its airspace seriously and coordinates closely with federal, state, and local law enforcement authorities, as appropriate. Local commanders are actively engaged to ensure there are appropriate detection and mitigation measures in place." So they are aware of the sightings. Thanks. Tell us more. Edited December 17 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 14 minutes ago, greg775 said: I read the defense department statement. It said: "Additionally, there have been a limited number of visual sightings of drones over military facilities in New Jersey and elsewhere, including within restricted air space. Such sightings near or over DoD installations are not new. DoD takes unauthorized access over its airspace seriously and coordinates closely with federal, state, and local law enforcement authorities, as appropriate. Local commanders are actively engaged to ensure there are appropriate detection and mitigation measures in place." So they are aware of the sightings. Thanks. Tell us more. So you want a press conference for the military to disclose top secret information about how the US military reacts to defense situations to the general public. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 17 Author Share Posted December 17 The president who has all the federal agencies to get information from says no big deal and the guy who doesn't have any intel is already deciding what he'll do. Hmm. Any fear and anxiety about that? Thanks for boosting the post count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: So you want a press conference for the military to disclose top secret information about how the US military reacts to defense situations to the general public. Cool. It just seems wrong to not have daily briefings from the government telling us what they know or at least responding to questions from the media. I don't know this for a fact but I suspect you and I have different feelings about government and its role and whether or not the current government is doing a good job. Not sure why you 'seem' to be OK with the radio silence on this. If you use social media you've seen the drones dominating the X platform night after night. This isn't greg doing some overreacting. I don't see why secrecy or silence is the way to go on this. My bad if I have made incorrect assumptions about your position on politics/government/relaying of drone information. I just sense a vibe of u, me and Kyle differing on what we expect from government officials. Edited December 18 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Texsox said: The president who has all the federal agencies to get information from says no big deal and the guy who doesn't have any intel is already deciding what he'll do. Hmm. Any fear and anxiety about that? Thanks for boosting the post count. I may have missed it but Joe hasn't officially said anything as far as I can tell. He rarely addresses questions from media. There was a long statement from government that Kyle posted that frankly didn't tell me much. Perhaps my comprehension level isn't as great as others. I saw a clip of Trump's press conference yesterday in which he said he wasn't sure why the government wasnt coming clean. The guy who takes over in a month says the government knows exactly what's going on. Strange. Edited December 18 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 3 hours ago, greg775 said: I read the defense department statement. It said: "Additionally, there have been a limited number of visual sightings of drones over military facilities in New Jersey and elsewhere, including within restricted air space. Such sightings near or over DoD installations are not new. DoD takes unauthorized access over its airspace seriously and coordinates closely with federal, state, and local law enforcement authorities, as appropriate. Local commanders are actively engaged to ensure there are appropriate detection and mitigation measures in place." So they are aware of the sightings. Thanks. Tell us more. What is your security clearance level? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Wednesday at 02:44 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:44 AM 2 hours ago, greg775 said: It just seems wrong to not have daily briefings from the government telling us what they know or at least responding to questions from the media. I don't know this for a fact but I suspect you and I have different feelings about government and its role and whether or not the current government is doing a good job. Not sure why you 'seem' to be OK with the radio silence on this. If you use social media you've seen the drones dominating the X platform night after night. This isn't greg doing some overreacting. I don't see why secrecy or silence is the way to go on this. My bad if I have made incorrect assumptions about your position on politics/government/relaying of drone information. I just sense a vibe of u, me and Kyle differing on what we expect from government officials. I expect them to not divulge classified information about national security, for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted Wednesday at 03:40 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:40 AM 3 hours ago, Big Hurtin said: What is your security clearance level? Somebody posted the link to the statement on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted Wednesday at 03:42 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:42 AM 59 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I expect them to not divulge classified information about national security, for starters. This quick reply made me wonder what would happen if the button was pushed by one of our enemy countries and the bombs were coming. We'd not be forewarned for security reasons? I guess some of us would be removed from humanity without knowing of the danger with this logic. Not trying to be a jerk, just think about what you said and apply it to "the big one." Thank u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted Wednesday at 05:53 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:53 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: I expect them to not divulge classified information about national security, for starters. Maybe they could throw out some hints like a.) rest easy, your health is not at risk, 100 percent not at risk. or b.) you might want to be alert to these drones. if you see one best to stay inside and call your local law enforcement. Or something on a daily basis rating the concern level green, yellow or red. Edited Wednesday at 05:54 AM by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Wednesday at 03:00 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:00 PM 11 hours ago, greg775 said: This quick reply made me wonder what would happen if the button was pushed by one of our enemy countries and the bombs were coming. We'd not be forewarned for security reasons? I guess some of us would be removed from humanity without knowing of the danger with this logic. Not trying to be a jerk, just think about what you said and apply it to "the big one." Thank u. No one I would not expect a press conference outlining exactly what security measures military bases were applying in a time of emergency. That information is quite literally classified. As to your safety, as was already pointed out, it was addressed, you are just to scared to read apparently. Probably should work on that duck and cover again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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