Schriffen does it again...

[southsider2k5]

11 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

A lot of times these guys get hired because they have a good voice and some knowledge or multiple sports and look pleasant enough on camera.

These tweeters are morons. There's no one who knows the history of every teams great players. Robertsons been dead a while .He played long ago.of course Schriffen prepared so he learned about Robertson on short notice most likely. The trouble is even without weed or advanced age your mind doesn't always remember correctly and that's not good for an announcer. Sucks he said it wrong and had people screaming it's Robertson not Robinson you douchebag. He should have someone in his ear telling him he made a mistake after the 1st time but chances are the producers or someone back in the studio doesn't even know it's Robertson.

I will agree with you in that we aren't all older small market sports reporters who have guys like Big O in their memories.  Schiff got brought into a rough situation, and then being asked to cover the Sox was automatically going to put him under a microscope.

[Dick Allen]

45 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

A lot of times these guys get hired because they have a good voice and some knowledge or multiple sports and look pleasant enough on camera.

These tweeters are morons. There's no one who knows the history of every teams great players. Robertsons been dead a while .He played long ago.of course Schriffen prepared so he learned about Robertson on short notice most likely. The trouble is even without weed or advanced age your mind doesn't always remember correctly and that's not good for an announcer. Sucks he said it wrong and had people screaming it's Robertson not Robinson you douchebag. He should have someone in his ear telling him he made a mistake after the 1st time but chances are the producers or someone back in the studio doesn't even know it's Robertson.

Hes still alive. He doesn't have to know about Oscar Robertson, but he was the one that brought him up 3 times in an effort to know history. You  want to mention it on the telecast, be a professional and get it right.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

On 12/17/2024 at 1:22 PM, Dick Allen said:

Hes still alive. He doesn't have to know about Oscar Robertson, but he was the one that brought him up 3 times in an effort to know history. You  want to mention it on the telecast, be a professional and get it right.

Lol I guess Soxtalk would not exist if fans weren't ultra whiny about things that wouldn't have even been a story before every idiot with a Twitter can  criticize everyone on the air who happens to mispronounce names or get facts wrong. Being a professional is not about being flawless . He put in the work .His mouth just didn't translate it from his brain right. Are we all so un empathetic we cannot just say oops instead of getting hot about it. So many angry people in the cheap seats losing money on their betting apps and fantasy leagues drunkenly yelling at the TV and pretending to be Siskel and Ebert. Mellow out.

Edited Friday at 05:11 AM by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[caulfield12]

17 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Lol I guess Soxtalk would not exist if fans weren't ultra whiny about things that wouldn't have even been a story before every idiot with a Twitter can  criticize everyone on the air who happens to mispronounce names or get facts wrong. Being a professional is not about being flawless . He put in the work .His mouth just didn't translate it from his brain right. Are we all so un empathetic we cannot just say oops instead of getting hot about it. So many angry people in the cheap seats losing money on their betting apps and fantasy leagues drunkenly yelling at the TV and pretending to be Siskel and Ebert. Mellow out.

If there was no Benetti doing highest level (Fox #2 team for CFB) work in TWO other sports, while basketball might actually be his strongest...50% of the Schiffren stuff would quiet down.   Not to mention constantly being too much of a cheerleader and overly optimistic/rose-colored glasses...the juxtaposition with DJ/Kasper as the second half of the season approached an all-time horrific finish was just too jarring.

Perhaps the most pathetic thing last year was Schiffren losing some of his professionalism and getting too close to some of the veteran guys on the team like Sizemore, Pham and Sheets.  I remember the complaints about his constant presence around the clubhouse, on the team plane trying to "hang out with the guys and be part of the cool/in group," Pham really laid into him about that as he departed for KC and told his side of things.

Benetti was never ever in a million years the cool guy in the room...thus there was never any attempt for him to pretend to be something he wasn't/never was.

[Dick Allen]

8 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Lol I guess Soxtalk would not exist if fans weren't ultra whiny about things that wouldn't have even been a story before every idiot with a Twitter can  criticize everyone on the air who happens to mispronounce names or get facts wrong. Being a professional is not about being flawless . He put in the work .His mouth just didn't translate it from his brain right. Are we all so un empathetic we cannot just say oops instead of getting hot about it. So many angry people in the cheap seats losing money on their betting apps and fantasy leagues drunkenly yelling at the TV and pretending to be Siskel and Ebert. Mellow out.

The guy is a HoF legend and played at Cincinatti. It really shouldn’t be that hard to get his name right just once. It’s all over the place in that gym.  And if he did the work as you say, he would have seen RobETRson on the statue he mentioned.  Professional announcers get things right. Hacks have people make excuses for them. As I have written, John seems like a nice guy, but………..if the mouth can’t say what the brain was telling it like you claim, much like someone with eyesight problems being an Uber driver, announcing is probably not the correct line of work. I don’t expect perfection. But these mistakes really upset Cincinatti fans. 
 

it’s a pattern with him. He had no idea how many outs there were several times. Called left field right field and right field left field multiple times. ESPN has him doing G league and espn+ games, so they don’t consider him one of their best. Sox fans deserve better.

Edited Friday at 01:13 PM by Dick Allen

[WhiteSox2023]

3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Lol I guess Soxtalk would not exist if fans weren't ultra whiny about things that wouldn't have even been a story before every idiot with a Twitter can  criticize everyone on the air who happens to mispronounce names or get facts wrong. Being a professional is not about being flawless . He put in the work .His mouth just didn't translate it from his brain right. Are we all so un empathetic we cannot just say oops instead of getting hot about it. So many angry people in the cheap seats losing money on their betting apps and fantasy leagues drunkenly yelling at the TV and pretending to be Siskel and Ebert. Mellow out.

You can make excuses for him if you want but it’s not going to make him any better.  He’s bad.

[Falstaff]

I love these Schriffen threads, keep them coming. All that is missing is a SCTV episode with Eugene Levy, Joe Flaherty, and John Candy. I have Joe Flaherty playing Scriff.

Edited Friday at 12:32 PM by Falstaff

[Kyyle23]

24 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

I love these Schriffen threads, keep them coming. All that is missing is a SCTV episode with Eugene Levy, Joe Flaherty, and John Candy. I have Joe Flaherty playing Scriff.

That implies he is in on the bit and actually the funniest one of the bunch to which I highly disagree 

[WhiteSox2023]

30 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

I love these Schriffen threads, keep them coming. All that is missing is a SCTV episode with Eugene Levy, Joe Flaherty, and John Candy. I have Joe Flaherty playing Scriff.

RIP.  Too soon.

[Falstaff]

15 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

RIP.  Too soon.

great memories

[vilehoopster]

That there is an off-season, two-page, 34 reply thread on this board about a Sox announcer misprononucing a name during a basketball game just shows how hard people are looking for things to complain about. It's just ridiculous. 

We get it: you're unhappy about the team and the 121 losses. 

But then again, after you post a few hunderd times (no hyperbole with that few hundred times number, it might over a thousand for few) that Getz, Riensdorf, Sox players and management all completely suck; after doing that over and over and over . . . I guess you're forced to find something new to complain about. 

[Kyyle23]

27 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:

That there is an off-season, two-page, 34 reply thread on this board about a Sox announcer misprononucing a name during a basketball game just shows how hard people are looking for things to complain about. It's just ridiculous. 

We get it: you're unhappy about the team and the 121 losses. 

But then again, after you post a few hunderd times (no hyperbole with that few hundred times number, it might over a thousand for few) that Getz, Riensdorf, Sox players and management all completely suck; after doing that over and over and over . . . I guess you're forced to find something new to complain about. 

Complain about the product or complain about the complainers.  Everyone is bitching, amirite.  
 

anywho, thanks for adding to the thread that you don’t like, giving it more life 

[Dick Allen]

52 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:

That there is an off-season, two-page, 34 reply thread on this board about a Sox announcer misprononucing a name during a basketball game just shows how hard people are looking for things to complain about. It's just ridiculous. 

We get it: you're unhappy about the team and the 121 losses. 

But then again, after you post a few hunderd times (no hyperbole with that few hundred times number, it might over a thousand for few) that Getz, Riensdorf, Sox players and management all completely suck; after doing that over and over and over . . . I guess you're forced to find something new to complain about. 

 Quit complaining.

Edited Friday at 02:59 PM by Dick Allen

[WestEddy]

I'm Polish, and my name is mispronounced pretty much every single time I'm out in public. I'm all for easy names being mispronounced at every opportunity. 

Why is this even a story?

[southsider2k5]

I think most of the problem is that Schiff's shtick would be much more acceptable if the team was winning.  The whole energetic upbeat excited thing works when there is something to be excited about.  When things are bad, you need to bring it down.  When the team is as exciting as a bowl of lukewarm dog water with day old cat puke floating in it, people aren't going to respond to loud noises.  As an announcer you have to match energy.

[WhiteSox2023]

The Cringe is strong with this one…

 

[Dick Allen]

2 hours ago, WestEddy said:

I'm Polish, and my name is mispronounced pretty much every single time I'm out in public. I'm all for easy names being mispronounced at every opportunity. 

Why is this even a story?

Oscar Robertson is a legendary basketball  player. His last name wasn't misprounced 3 times, Schriff just got it wrong. 

 TW, my job requires me to sometimes co tact people and ask about their clients. I butcher names all the time. Reminds me of grade school where the one redeeming quality of the first day of school was the teacher mispronounced names, and the entire class would laugh about it.

 

[Kyyle23]

Huge difference in mispronouncing someone’s name who you have never met or have only read the name, and a hall of fame basketball player at the university for which you are covering a game.  I also have to call people for my job, and sometimes I say it wrong and I’m corrected, and then I am trusted to say it correctly for the rest of the call.   I don’t have a producer in my ear telling me things nor do I have game notes handed to me prior to the game that have the “things needed to know” for my call.  It’s not the same

 

and the thing is, this isn’t one of our posters pointing this out.  This is awful announcing, and they are doing it because Schriffen had similar stuff happen last season.  He is definitely under a microscope and at this point only he can help himself out

[JoeC]

My issues with Schriff are:

1. When he isn’t invisible. He actually does a good job when he’s just… doing the job. He has a good voice and a nice delivery when he actually settles down and lets the game flow through him. The “we aren’t gonna take that” kind of stuff where he’s trying to create action or a back story where there isn’t (or shouldn’t be) one is cringy.

2. He doesn’t do all of the homework that Benetti did. Like it or not, Benetti (his immediate predecessor) was generally well-liked, well-respected, and is known throughout the industry as one of the best-prepared announcers. To make gaffes like mispronouncing the immediate previous ownership’s name or a hall-of-fame player in the sport you’re currently calling is just embarrassing, especially when contrasted with how Benetti prepared and handled things.

[Quin]

I also enjoy that one of the defense's in this thread was "Oscar Robertson died a long time ago and Schriffen took time to learn..."

That'd be like calling a game for Arizona State baseball and referencing their great hitter Reggie Johnson. Except it's even worse cause Schriffen was talking about an Oscar statue, which prominently displays his name.

[WestEddy]

16 minutes ago, Quin said:

Except it's even worse cause Schriffen was talking about an Oscar statue, which prominently displays his name.

Prominently displays his name......

Without a pronunciation guide.

[Bob Sacamano]

4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Prominently displays his name......

Without a pronunciation guide.

Huh? It's a completely different last name lol

[Quin]

14 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Prominently displays his name......

Without a pronunciation guide.

 

If Schriff gets "Robinson" from that, well, that's another issue.

[Tnetennba]

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

I think most of the problem is that Schiff's shtick would be much more acceptable if the team was winning.  The whole energetic upbeat excited thing works when there is something to be excited about.  When things are bad, you need to bring it down.  When the team is as exciting as a bowl of lukewarm dog water with day old cat puke floating in it, people aren't going to respond to loud noises.  As an announcer you have to match energy.

Knowing/understanding the game he's calling would go a long way as well.

[Tnetennba]

24 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Prominently displays his name......

Without a pronunciation guide.

How does a pronunciation guide help if one can't read the difference between Robertson and Robinson?

What a crock of s%*#.