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Chicago White Sox Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 I’d take the over at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 Under easily 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 Way under especially when Robert is moved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 Sell the team Jerry 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 Nah they'll go over. It's really hard to be that bad again. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 13 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Nah they'll go over. It's really hard to be that bad again. Au contraire. They lost their best pitcher, and they have Vargas for the whole year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 21 minutes ago, fathom said: Sell the team Jerry Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 It's so hard to lose that many games... I'd take the over. I may actually wait until a Robert trade so it's drops to like 46.5 then jump 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 I don't think they can be that bad again, either. This should be a normal bad team, even given they traded some of the only good players from last year. Then again, it IS a Chicago sports team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 Over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 18 Author Share Posted December 18 5 other seasons since 1960 have ended with a team in the 40's for wins besides the White Sox last year. No team has ever done it back to back. Then again, no team had ever lost 121 games in one season either, so who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: I knew that screenshot of Vargas would live on in infamy the moment I saw it. Poor guy. Had to have been a real mind f*** going from the Dodgers to this. And only +3000 to make playoffs? What kind of fool would take that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 Seems absurd that any team could lose that many games in back to back seasons but if anyone can do it, it's this organization. I might not bet the under but I'm definitely not betting the over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 I think i would take the over. An even remotely competent bullpen, which can be assembled by pure luck, will beat it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 This seems about where I’d guess they wind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 It seems like ownership/management are losing games on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 Odds are they will be highet, but this is an offensively challenged team who may have to choose a gut like Davis Martin or Jonathan Cannon to be their Opening Day starter. I wouldn't bet against it. I thought they couldn't play worse when they went 81-81. Then t thought they would have to try to be worse than 61-101.41-121, I just think nothinh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 On one hand, no Pedro. On the other hand: They'll need Venable to hit the ground running, several RoY contenders, and monstrous development from starters and relievers alike. And that's to get out of the basement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’d take the over at the moment. Can you explain why? This team has no starting pitching, no bullpen, and most likely no offense when Robert is inevitably moved. They will have a roster full of kids who need to develop and AAAA level players. This, somehow, is going to be a worse roster than the 41 win team they put on the field last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 So that would have them averaging about 2 wins a week for the season....I'm not sure if that is crazy or optimistic. I am going to have to think about this one some more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 52 minutes ago, WBWSF said: It seems like ownership/management are losing games on purpose. Like I was told last week after the Crochet deal by a long time front office executive, "All Jerry wants now is to leave as much money as possible for his family and grand children." All you can do is hope to outlive him and hope for better days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 24 minutes ago, wegner said: So that would have them averaging about 2 wins a week for the season....I'm not sure if that is crazy or optimistic. I am going to have to think about this one some more. Normal “really bad or young rosters” tend to come in high 40s or 50 wins. Thats what the As, Orioles wound up at. It took the truly epic dysfunction and poor strategy for the White Sox to be dramatically worse than that. If they behave as a normal bad team, 50 wins is normal. You might hope that adding in some youth might help, but losing Crochet and Fedde has to matter as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 Just under. I expect the offense and bullpen to be a little better, but the starting pitching to be much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 18 Share Posted December 18 1 hour ago, T R U said: Can you explain why? This team has no starting pitching, no bullpen, and most likely no offense when Robert is inevitably moved. They will have a roster full of kids who need to develop and AAAA level players. This, somehow, is going to be a worse roster than the 41 win team they put on the field last season. A team full of replacement players should win 48 games. I feel pretty good that we will be a positive WAR team next and therefore should exceed the 49 win O/U assuming normal luck. While the team will still be really bad, there are more above replacement level talents on it than last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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