CWS Acquire Reliever Cam Booser from BOS

[Timmy U]

57 minutes ago, wegner said:

Don't we still have Wilson? I've really gotta keep up.

Sox still have Wilson because he was had zero value at the deadline.

[ChiSox59]

1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

Sox still have Wilson because he was had zero value at the deadline.

Good thing he has three more years of control, so plenty of time to regain value and be moveable. 

[Bob Sacamano]

23 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Good thing he has three more years of control, so plenty of time to regain value and be moveable. 

Relievers are so volatile it wouldn’t shocked me if he pitched great and they dealt him.

[nrockway]

Also once upon a time they suspended him 50 games for smoking weed. That probably is a PED for pitchers though.

[Chicago White Sox]

6 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Also once upon a time they suspended him 50 games for smoking weed. That probably is a PED for pitchers though.

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[WestEddy]

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

The fastball has touched the mid-90s and the slider sits more in the low-80s with late bite. It’s a raw profile, but Fajardo already touches the mid-90s and should be able to add a tick or two more to that as he fills out his 6-3 frame.

At 17-18 years old...not 32.  Also REALLY good control for a LA pitcher at that age.

Unless they're going for "The Rookie II" Disney-like feel good story.

As I said, I don't like trading Fajardo. I never heard of Booser before this trade, but it sure seems like they're trying to not go into 2025 with the BP issues they had last year. And if Booser's as impressive as it sounds like, they can get a couple pieces when it's time to move him. 

[Chicago White Sox]

I’ll be honest, I don’t know enough about Booser or Fajardo to have a strong opinion here.  If Bannister likes this dude, then I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.  That being said, this better not be another Bailey Horn situation where we end up dumping a guy for nothing a couple months into the season.  You need to hit if you’re going to gamble on a 32 year old reliever.

[Balta1701]

3 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

The Sox absolutely think they’ll get more than Fajardo for Booser. He’s 32 but he’s not even arb eligible and has 5 years of control and three options. I get it. 

And the Boston Red Sox, who clearly intend to compete this year, and who had Booser, looked at an 18 year old years away from the big leagues and said “yeah we’d rather have that.”

[nrockway]

15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

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https://www.milb.com/news/twins-cam-booser-yankees-matt-marsh-suspended-237457420#:~:text=the second time.-,Two Minor Leaguers will miss 50 games due to violations,abuse for the second time.

 

seemingly derailed his MLB career (plus a back injury). as of 2019, MLB removed pot from its banned substances list.

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[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

As I said, I don't like trading Fajardo. I never heard of Booser before this trade, but it sure seems like they're trying to not go into 2025 with the BP issues they had last year. And if Booser's as impressive as it sounds like, they can get a couple pieces when it's time to move him. 

Yeah, definitely can’t have bullpen issues for a 50 win team.

Edited 12 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[WhiteSox2023]

12 minutes ago, nrockway said:

https://www.milb.com/news/twins-cam-booser-yankees-matt-marsh-suspended-237457420#:~:text=the second time.-,Two Minor Leaguers will miss 50 games due to violations,abuse for the second time.

 

seemingly derailed his MLB career (plus a back injury). as of 2019, MLB removed pot from its banned substances list.

Dude wasn’t good at 25 either…

”Booser, a 25-year-old on the Rookie-level Elizabethton Twins, had pitched 2 2/3 innings this season for Class A Advanced Fort Myers, allowing one run while walking seven and hitting two batters over three relief appearances. He went 0-4 with an 8.53 ERA, 34 strikeouts and 31 walks over 25 1/3 innings for Class A Cedar Rapids and Fort Myers in 2016.”

[nrockway]

8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Dude wasn’t good at 25 either…

”Booser, a 25-year-old on the Rookie-level Elizabethton Twins, had pitched 2 2/3 innings this season for Class A Advanced Fort Myers, allowing one run while walking seven and hitting two batters over three relief appearances. He went 0-4 with an 8.53 ERA, 34 strikeouts and 31 walks over 25 1/3 innings for Class A Cedar Rapids and Fort Myers in 2016.”

I mean he was pretty good in the MLB last year. I was just pointing out it was goofy they'd suspend a guy that long for smoking pot and it probably factors into him finally getting a shot in his 30s. I don't think the trade was necessarily a good idea, but he seems like a cool dude and I like his grind to the MLB. I also don't really care about losing a 17-year-old pitcher I've never heard of. What are the odds of a guy like that making it past A ball, let alone posting a 3.38 ERA in MLB? It's not like he's another Tatis Jr., Tatis had hype when he was traded, I think most of us are just learning about this guy today and his, you know, pretty good DSL stats.

I also tend to think the Sox pitching people know what they're doing and probably know more about either of these players than I do. My complaint is that some of the guys already in the organization should be getting a shot, don't really need to bring in more relievers. What are you going to trade him for? Those trades amounted to nothing last season, so unless Booser is as good as Fedde, I don't see the point.

[caulfield12]

https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/244059/

Why haven't we heard much at all about this SS who the Phillies traded for Tanner Banks and was their #11 prospect and hit well over .300 in Adv.A ball for the Sox???

Is he even on the Top 30 list?

Edited 13 hours ago by caulfield12

[Chicago White Sox]

8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/244059/

Why haven't we heard much at all about this SS who the Phillies traded for Tanner Banks and was their #11 prospect and hit well over .300 in Adv.A ball for the Sox???

Is he even on the Top 30 list?

He’s 19th on Pipeline’s current top 30 list for us…not sure if it’s actually up to date though.

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

I mean he was pretty good in the MLB last year. I was just pointing out it was goofy they'd suspend a guy that long for smoking pot and it probably factors into him finally getting a shot in his 30s. I don't think the trade was necessarily a good idea, but he seems like a cool dude and I like his grind to the MLB. I also don't really care about losing a 17-year-old pitcher I've never heard of. What are the odds of a guy like that making it past A ball, let alone posting a 3.38 ERA in MLB? It's not like he's another Tatis Jr., Tatis had hype when he was traded, I think most of us are just learning about this guy today and his, you know, pretty good DSL stats.

I also tend to think the Sox pitching people know what they're doing and probably know more about either of these players than I do. My complaint is that some of the guys already in the organization should be getting a shot, don't really need to bring in more relievers. What are you going to trade him for? Those trades amounted to nothing last season, so unless Booser is as good as Fedde, I don't see the point.

The Sox should be looking to create guys like Booser and trade them away for youth, just like the Red Sox did.  Not acquiring guys like Booser.  The Sox are going to be terrible next season.  They have plenty of opportunity to pitch guys from their own system that could be the next Booser.

Like @Balta1701 said, isn’t it funny that the Red Sox, a team that is actually going to compete in 2025 unlike our Sox, would rather have the 18-year old Fajardo in their minors than Booser on their MLB roster?

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/244059/

Why haven't we heard much at all about this SS who the Phillies traded for Tanner Banks and was their #11 prospect and hit well over .300 in Adv.A ball for the Sox???

Is he even on the Top 30 list?

Because he’s got less power than both Nick Madrigal and Nicky Lopez after numerous cycles of roids.

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

Very weird trade.

[oldsox]

Laughing-stock stuff.

[caulfield12]

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2024/12/former-red-sox-catching-prospect-reveals-unusual-naked-pre-game-routine.html

How did we miss this?

With the arrivals of Aroldis Chapman and Justin Wilson...along with Brennan Bernadino already on the roster, Boozer was suddenly the odd man out an the fourth lefty on the depth chart.

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

9 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

And the Boston Red Sox, who clearly intend to compete this year, and who had Booser, looked at an 18 year old years away from the big leagues and said “yeah we’d rather have that.”

Yeah, this is why it's so weird for me. From a process perspective, this trade makes sense if the teams are reversed. Unless the red sox just don't think he's a mlb reliever they can rely on.

The White Sox shouldn't be trading any lotto tickets.

To those saying they expect to get more for him than they gave. That makes literally zero sense to me. One of his big issues is he's old. He's not getting any younger.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

12 hours ago, wegner said:

Who's Slater.....did I miss something?

Austin Slater ,part of the Sox projected RF platoon for 2025 along with Mike Tauchman.

He's RH has solid career numbers OBP and OPS against LHP. Just turned 32. So weak side of the platoon and LH PH and 4th OF since he can play CF too. Late inning defensive replacement OF .

[Chicago White Sox]

Fajardo just missed Baseball America’s top 30 list for the White Sox.  It’s going to be fascinating to hear Getz try to rationalize this one.  Anytime a rebuilding club trades an 18 year old arm with good stuff who they just signed and who performed well will raise a lot of questions.  Again, you have to be confident there’s something extra you can unlock in Booser and can spin him for much more at the deadline if you make this trade.  Otherwise, it really does feel like you’re selling low on Fajardo as even the same level of success in complex ball would enhance his trade value.

That being said, I do want a GM who will attempt to create value by thinking outside the box and Booser certainly fits that billing.  Just nervous here given Getz’s atrocious trade record when he’s more or less buying a piece.  The entire Bailey Horn sequence of moves remains bizarre to me as there was plenty of 40 man garbage to get rid of before selling Horn off for cash.  It’s very clear they missed on their evaluation of him, which is strange since they should have known him well, but also a sign that Bannister isn’t going to be flawless.

Unlike with the Fletcher trade, which I hated right from the get go, I will wait and see how everything shakes out with Booser before making too harsh of judgements.  That being said, my early gut tells me never to trade legitimate prospects for relievers when rebuilding and instead target rebound candidates via the waiver wire and free agency.

[Chicago White Sox]

17 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Yeah, this is why it's so weird for me. From a process perspective, this trade makes sense if the teams are reversed. Unless the red sox just don't think he's a mlb reliever they can rely on.

The White Sox shouldn't be trading any lotto tickets.

To those saying they expect to get more for him than they gave. That makes literally zero sense to me. One of his big issues is he's old. He's not getting any younger.

I agree with everything but that last line.  Not sure age matters all that much when it comes to Booser’s future trade value.  If he can become a legit, high leverage LH setup man he will have plenty of value at the deadline and should return plenty.  Maybe you won’t get full value on the remaining control, but you’d certainly get more than a Farjardo caliber prospect.  The big question is can the Sox get more out of Booser and my biggest issue right now is the price to get that opportunity is far from a nothing.

[southsider2k5]

15 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Let's see if this burner account is any more accurate...

 

I think I like this less than Tyler Schweitzer. 

Mark this down.  I agree with Eddy.

[southsider2k5]

43 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I agree with everything but that last line.  Not sure age matters all that much when it comes to Booser’s future trade value.  If he can become a legit, high leverage LH setup man he will have plenty of value at the deadline and should return plenty.  Maybe you won’t get full value on the remaining control, but you’d certainly get more than a Farjardo caliber prospect.  The big question is can the Sox get more out of Booser and my biggest issue right now is the price to get that opportunity is far from a nothing.

I disagree.  This exactly the type of guys we should be adding,  not subtracting.  These are the guys that grow out of no where, or find an extra 2 inches on their fastball. Are the odds low?  Sure.  But they are also the ones who do the crazy leaps.