Buehrle>Wood Posted Saturday at 11:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:01 PM (edited) Edited Saturday at 11:23 PM by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted Saturday at 11:04 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:04 PM Fantastic trade for AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted Saturday at 11:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:07 PM That’s…a crappy return for Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Saturday at 11:11 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:11 PM 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Fantastic trade for AZ 7 minutes ago, hogan873 said: That’s…a crappy return for Cleveland. Yep, what the heck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted Saturday at 11:19 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:19 PM Damn apparently Cleveland is that hard up for cash that they’re trading Naylor for a draft pick? Also, how the hell did the Yankees not beat this offer instead of signing 37 year old Goldschmidt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM 10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Yep, what the heck? Naylor's set to make $14mil and Manzardo will make $750k. Manzardo is likely better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Saturday at 11:24 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:24 PM 4 minutes ago, nrockway said: Naylor's set to make $14mil and Manzardo will make $750k. Manzardo is likely better too. And then they burn $12 million on old man Santana anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted Saturday at 11:25 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 11:25 PM Think I'd much rather have Naylor at 14 million than Santana at 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted Saturday at 11:29 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:29 PM 8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: And then they burn $12 million on old man Santana anyways. yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted Saturday at 11:31 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:31 PM 28 minutes ago, fathom said: Fantastic trade for AZ Thank god that big bastard is out of the division. He was on a Mike Sweeney level all time Sox killer trajectory. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted Saturday at 11:37 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:37 PM 20 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Damn apparently Cleveland is that hard up for cash that they’re trading Naylor for a draft pick? Also, how the hell did the Yankees not beat this offer instead of signing 37 year old Goldschmidt? I think all of these RSN going under is going to change the face of baseball and will lead to a long lockout in 2026. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted Saturday at 11:38 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:38 PM Maybe Cleveland’s buffet budget was out of control with him around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Saturday at 11:52 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:52 PM 18 minutes ago, ptatc said: I think all of these RSN going under is going to change the face of baseball and will lead to a long lockout in 2026. But they really only saved $2 million for next season’s payroll, as they just signed Carlos Santana for $12 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Saturday at 11:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:54 PM 25 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Thank god that big bastard is out of the division. He was on a Mike Sweeney level all time Sox killer trajectory. Let’s hope his brothers don’t carry the torch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted yesterday at 12:00 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:00 AM 9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: But they really only saved $2 million for next season’s payroll, as they just signed Carlos Santana for $12 million. I know. That's really shows something. It doesn't look like it was for talent. Looks like they are trying to save everything they can. How long was Naylor under Cleveland control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 12:01 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:01 AM Always getting hurt and must have been concerned about his conditioning…but production-wise, yuck. Depends on Manzardo taking the next step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 12:03 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:03 AM 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: I know. That's really shows something. It doesn't look like it was for talent. Looks like they are trying to save everything they can. How long was Naylor under Cleveland control? But then turning around and signing Santana at his age is puzzling at best. At some point he will fall off a cliff like Abreu did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted yesterday at 12:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:04 AM Slade Cecconi is totally going to become another strong reliever for them isn’t he 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted yesterday at 12:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:06 AM 9 minutes ago, ptatc said: I know. That's really shows something. It doesn't look like it was for talent. Looks like they are trying to save everything they can. How long was Naylor under Cleveland control? Should be a free agent next offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted yesterday at 12:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:17 AM 12 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Should be a free agent next offseason Yeah, they knew they weren't going to re-sign him so they got at least something for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM 1 hour ago, ptatc said: I think all of these RSN going under is going to change the face of baseball and will lead to a long lockout in 2026. The Athletic earlier this week had a story asking the same question although the way they phrased it, it would be because the owners yet again would be willing to shut down a season to try to get a salary cap instituted. Good luck with that folks! The good news will be that unlike in 1981 and 1994 it won't hurt good Sox teams or blunt positive momentum because the team will be awful again that year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted yesterday at 02:05 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:05 AM 53 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: The Athletic earlier this week had a story asking the same question although the way they phrased it, it would be because the owners yet again would be willing to shut down a season to try to get a salary cap instituted. Good luck with that folks! The good news will be that unlike in 1981 and 1994 it won't hurt good Sox teams or blunt positive momentum because the team will be awful again that year. I'm at the point that if baseball goes away for 2 seasons , I'm completely fine with that. They need a cap, and as important, they need a floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted yesterday at 03:28 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:28 AM That dude killed us glad he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted yesterday at 03:37 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:37 AM 12 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: That dude killed us glad he's gone. lmao everyone kills us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted yesterday at 04:59 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:59 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Slade Cecconi is totally going to become another strong reliever for them isn’t he I bet they try him as a starter, right? He has the pitch mix and it's his fastball that got touched up (though sits at 95mph) despite being projected as someone who "needs to work on his offspeed to be a starter". The offspeed stuff is OK. He hasn't looked very good in the majors and had more success as a reliever at AAA. But Cleveland is a competent organization so I imagine it's a little more than a salary dump and I think he gets some starts or otherwise acts as a swingman. I potentially like the trade for CLE more than for AZ. AZ is replacing Walker with Naylor which seems like a downgrade or at least a lateral move. They could've paid Walker $6m more AAV than Naylor and kept him. I liked the Gimenez trade too, Cleveland trades their guys at the right time, I don't think Naylor or Gimenez are going to play better baseball than they have going forward. Naylor kills the Sox, but he kinda sucks, his 162 game average WAR is 1.6. Eerily close batting numbers as Andrew Vaughn at more than twice the price. Edited yesterday at 04:59 AM by nrockway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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