Chicago White Sox Posted December 22 Share Posted December 22 So wanted to get people’s thoughts on what they think our rotations throughout the org will look like come Opening Day. Here are my best guesses at the moment: White Sox: Davis Martin Jonathan Cannon Drew Thorpe Sean Burke Bryse Wilson AAA: Jairo Iriarte Mason Adams Ky Bush* Nick Nastrini Wikelman Gonzalez AA: Noah Schultz* Juan Carela Riley Gowens Tyler Schweitzer* Aldrin Batista High A: Hagen Smith* Grant Taylor Seth Keener Tanner McDougal Lucas Gordon* Low A: Ricardo Brizuela Justin Sinibaldi* Mason Moore Luis Reyes Christian Oppor* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 22 Author Share Posted December 22 I will admit I really struggled on that Kannapolis rotation. There are a ton of guys who could theoretically slot into spots and I don’t who they feel is ready to move from the ACL (or even DSL) and which college relievers they just drafted who they plan to convert to starting roles. I also have no idea what’s going on with Lecombre and if he could possibly factor into the mix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 22 Author Share Posted December 22 Regardless, that is some serious minor league pitching depth and I’m not even showing everyone. Also, it shows why adding more SP prospects at this point is diminishing returns. Yes injuries will happen, but there are other guys who can easily claim those innings. From here on out, our focus should be on adding high ceiling bats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 22 Share Posted December 22 24 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Low A: Ricardo Brizuela Justin Sinibaldi* Mason Moore Luis Reyes Christian Oppor* Oppor seemed to have a hard time of it in the Complex League. Jake Peppers could probably return to the Kannapolis rotation to cut his walk rate. But yeah, there's so many interesting arms in the system. Bockenstedt might just be depth who tops out in AA, but I didn't hear anything about Tommy Vail having a long term issue. Vail probably starts out at winston-salem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted December 22 Share Posted December 22 46 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Regardless, that is some serious minor league pitching depth and I’m not even showing everyone. Also, it shows why adding more SP prospects at this point is diminishing returns. Yes injuries will happen, but there are other guys who can easily claim those innings. From here on out, our focus should be on adding high ceiling bats. So we are back to this now…. Great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 22 Share Posted December 22 Good list. I think you are too aggressive on Wikelman Gonzalez (I think they have said he is going to be in AA). Also, a little aggressive on Batista. I bet he spends the first half in that jam-packed W-S rotation. I bet they sign some AAAA guy for rotation depth in Charlotte. But this is a very good list. Kanny’s rotation is a real head scratcher. I think Reyes could see time there as well as Oppor, LaCombe, etc., plus I will be interested to see whether Yohemy Nolasco is back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 22 Share Posted December 22 9 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Good list. I think you are too aggressive on Wikelman Gonzalez (I think they have said he is going to be in AA). Also, a little aggressive on Batista. I bet he spends the first half in that jam-packed W-S rotation. I bet they sign some AAAA guy for rotation depth in Charlotte. But this is a very good list. Kanny’s rotation is a real head scratcher. I think Reyes could see time there as well as Oppor, LaCombe, etc., plus I will be interested to see whether Yohemy Nolasco is back. I could also see a few 6-man rotations, just to get these guys their work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 22 Share Posted December 22 28 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I could also see a few 6-man rotations, just to get these guys their work. For sure. And at the lower levels there will be quite a few piggybacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted December 22 Share Posted December 22 2 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said: So we are back to this now…. Great. He is right, though. What would getting MORE starting pitching right now accomplish? You can't add another team for them to pitch on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted December 22 Share Posted December 22 You forgot Sasaki. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 6 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: He is right, though. What would getting MORE starting pitching right now accomplish? You can't add another team for them to pitch on. I suppose if they have the top five starting pitchers at each level then there is no room for improvement. If only we had a recent example of minor league starting pitchers flaming out in this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 23 Author Share Posted December 23 33 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: I suppose if they have the top five starting pitchers at each level then there is no room for improvement. If only we had a recent example of minor league starting pitchers flaming out in this system. Many of these guys will flame out, but they also need opportunities before doing so. The issue isn’t that we can’t acquire better SP prospects, it’s that acquiring a 45 FV and pushing someone like Batista to a minor league bullpen doesn’t move the needle much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Many of these guys will flame out, but they also need opportunities before doing so. The issue isn’t that we can’t acquire better SP prospects, it’s that acquiring a 45 FV and pushing someone like Batista to a minor league bullpen doesn’t move the needle much. Obviously, they should take the approach of pursuing both pitching and position players in the draft and internationally. There's no reason right now to target pitching prospects in trade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 25 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Obviously, they should take the approach of pursuing both pitching and position players in the draft and internationally. There's no reason right now to target pitching prospects in trade. Unless they have elite stuff and spotty command and/or secondary pitches...worst case you throw them at the bullpen and hope to produce closer internal that you can auction off to the highest bidders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 23 Author Share Posted December 23 18 hours ago, Timmy U said: Good list. I think you are too aggressive on Wikelman Gonzalez (I think they have said he is going to be in AA). Also, a little aggressive on Batista. I bet he spends the first half in that jam-packed W-S rotation. I bet they sign some AAAA guy for rotation depth in Charlotte. But this is a very good list. Kanny’s rotation is a real head scratcher. I think Reyes could see time there as well as Oppor, LaCombe, etc., plus I will be interested to see whether Yohemy Nolasco is back. You’re right on Batista. I had thought he spent more time in Winston Salem last year but my memory served me wrong. He’ll open up in High A for sure. Not sure who gets knocked out or if they go with a six man, but Gordon, Peppers, McDaniel, etc. are all behind the big four there and I’d prioritize McDougal over those guys as well due to his age and stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted Monday at 08:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:04 PM Wasn't the Rule Five guy Shane Smith taken with the idea he would become a starter? Should he be on this list? I think at the very least, Smith sees himself as a starter next year. Didn't I see that in a couple articles after the Sox selected him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Monday at 08:06 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:06 PM 4 minutes ago, vilehoopster said: Wasn't the Rule Five guy Shane Smith taken with the idea he would become a starter? Should he be on this list? I think at the very least, Smith sees himself as a starter next year. Didn't I see that in a couple articles after the Sox selected him? I'm sure he will compete for a spot in Spring Training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted Monday at 08:07 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:07 PM I know many people will go off on this, but I would like to see the Sox resign Chris Flexen. Some people made this joke earlier on this board, but it's probably more or less true: Flexen is probably too expensive for the Sox for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Monday at 08:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:08 PM 3 minutes ago, vilehoopster said: I know many people will go off on this, but I would like to see the Sox resign Chris Flexen. Some people made this joke earlier on this board, but it's probably more or less true: Flexen is probably too expensive for the Sox for this year. I kinda feel like Bryse Wilson is stepping into the role he served last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Monday at 08:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:10 PM 5 minutes ago, vilehoopster said: I know many people will go off on this, but I would like to see the Sox resign Chris Flexen. Some people made this joke earlier on this board, but it's probably more or less true: Flexen is probably too expensive for the Sox for this year. For where the White Sox are this year, they will have a ton of innings to fill. This isn't an awful idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Monday at 08:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:13 PM 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: For where the White Sox are this year, they will have a ton of innings to fill. This isn't an awful idea. I'd rather have him than Clevinger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Monday at 08:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:19 PM 9 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'd rather have him than Clevinger. 1000% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Monday at 08:46 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 08:46 PM 36 minutes ago, vilehoopster said: I know many people will go off on this, but I would like to see the Sox resign Chris Flexen. Some people made this joke earlier on this board, but it's probably more or less true: Flexen is probably too expensive for the Sox for this year. I don’t see a reason to sign Flexen at this point. Wilson will likely compete with Smith (and others) for the #5 spot coming out of spring training. Loser will likely be the swing man to start the year. Scholtens will be at some point. And then you have a ton of arms in AAA right on the cusp. If you want to add more SP depth, I’d do so on a minor league deal and not sure Flexen is going to be game for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Monday at 08:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:53 PM 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t see a reason to sign Flexen at this point. Wilson will likely compete with Smith (and others) for the #5 spot coming out of spring training. Loser will likely be the swing man to start the year. Scholtens will be at some point. And then you have a ton of arms in AAA right on the cusp. If you want to add more SP depth, I’d do so on a minor league deal and not sure Flexen is going to be game for that. This team could you an extra long-reliever or two with how inexperienced and young the rotation is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Monday at 08:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:53 PM 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: This team could you an extra long-reliever or two with how inexperienced and young the rotation is. Isn't that the guy they signed from the Brewers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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