Sleepy Harold Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 (edited) Edited December 23 by Sleepy Harold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 (edited) Minor league deal. Talk about a fall. Edited December 23 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 (edited) This is surprising, the Rays front office is smarter than this. If he does make it to the big club, he better hustle, Kevin Cash won’t put up with the Eloy we have witnessed the last few years. Edited December 23 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 A minor league deal? Made some money but probably should have taken this whole baseball thing more seriously. Bum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: This is surprising, the Rays front office is smarter than this. It’s a minor league deal. He’s likely going cost the Rays nothing. If he sucks, they’ll just cut him. Edited December 23 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 Likable guy but his body is too fragile 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 Rays look pretty good in the OF although you could always have backups there, but they spent the latter 2 months of the season in 2024 with Brandon Lowe and Yandy Diaz rotating through their DH spot. Both of those guys are under contract, which means the Rays could certainly consider parting with either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 That's right, he's a DH, not an OF. Glad Rogers got that correct. I wish the best for Eloy but man, he's got a body made of glass and I just think the injury bug will prove to be too much for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 23 Share Posted December 23 If any non-Dodgers team could fix a dude, it's Tampa Bay. Also, their temporary field dimensions: Left Field – 318 ft (97 m) Left-Center – 399 ft (122 m) Center Field – 408 ft (124 m) Right-Center – 385 ft (117 m) Right Field – 314 ft 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Monday at 05:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:59 PM Smartest thing he could have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted Monday at 06:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:17 PM Eloy was never the same hitter after he got hurt in that 2021 Spring Training game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted Monday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:19 PM 5 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Eloy was never the same hitter after he got hurt in that 2021 Spring Training game. He was pretty good in 2022. I think the hamstring injuries ruined him more than anything. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted Monday at 08:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:00 PM 2 hours ago, Quin said: If any non-Dodgers team could fix a dude, it's Tampa Bay. Also, their temporary field dimensions: Left Field – 318 ft (97 m) Left-Center – 399 ft (122 m) Center Field – 408 ft (124 m) Right-Center – 385 ft (117 m) Right Field – 314 ft Do the dimensions of the park matter when you never lift the ball and are always hitting it hard through the infield? I remember a month or so listening to the Chuck Garfien podcast with new director of hitting Ryan Fuller. Fuller talked at length about this and that he can do to help a player, and one of the thinks he talked about was getting a player to lift the ball more. I wanted to ask if he discussed lifting the ball with Eloy in his short time there. Somehow I would bet he did. Between the Sox and the Orioles coaching staff, how many players and coaches preached, talked, and worked with Eloy to try to get him to lift the ball more? What do you think: 15 to 20? It never sunk in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted Monday at 08:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:05 PM 6 minutes ago, vilehoopster said: Do the dimensions of the park matter when you never lift the ball and are always hitting it hard through the infield? I remember a month or so listening to the Chuck Garfien podcast with new director of hitting Ryan Fuller. Fuller talked at length about this and that he can do to help a player, and one of the thinks he talked about was getting a player to lift the ball more. I wanted to ask if he discussed lifting the ball with Eloy in his short time there. Somehow I would bet he did. Between the Sox and the Orioles coaching staff, how many players and coaches preached, talked, and worked with Eloy to try to get him to lift the ball more? What do you think: 15 to 20? It never sunk in. I mean, we briefly had a hitting coach that said "f*** the home run," so, there's that. He was with the Orioles for only a few months. So if the Rays get him to lift the ball, a small outdoor park in a warmer climate may indeed help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Monday at 08:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:30 PM 26 minutes ago, Quin said: I mean, we briefly had a hitting coach that said "f*** the home run," so, there's that. He was with the Orioles for only a few months. So if the Rays get him to lift the ball, a small outdoor park in a warmer climate may indeed help him. And very quickly wasn't wanted back for another year. And as to Eloy, hopefully getting him out of this toxic stew and into a well run organization brings his love of the game back. Baseball is so much better with a vintage Hi Mom Eloy. It would be nice if TB could figure out a way to keep him relatively healthy more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted Monday at 08:34 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:34 PM Since the trade, Cease has produced ~18fWAR, Quintana ~13 fWAR, and Eloy ~4 fWAR. At the time of the trade I never would have predicted Eloy would be by far the least productive of the 3 main pieces involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Monday at 10:56 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:56 PM 5 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: This is surprising, the Rays front office is smarter than this. If he does make it to the big club, he better hustle, Kevin Cash won’t put up with the Eloy we have witnessed the last few years. Maybe its roster filler so when they bring AAA player up they don't have to push AA players in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted Tuesday at 11:15 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:15 AM man, what a colossal failure he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted Tuesday at 12:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:33 PM Nice to know he still wants to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFAthewave69420 Posted Tuesday at 02:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:33 PM Slice of the humble pie for Eloy huh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted Tuesday at 02:57 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:57 PM He’ll make the team out of spring training and then tear a tit or his hamstring in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted Tuesday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:48 PM Parting shots and mostly cheap ones. Give it up already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted Tuesday at 05:57 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:57 PM 23 hours ago, WBWSF said: Eloy was never the same hitter after he got hurt in that 2021 Spring Training game. Yeah, that torn pec really seem to either change his swing or really effect his strength. Not sure what happened as that is one he should have been able to recover from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, ptatc said: Yeah, that torn pec really seem to either change his swing or really effect his strength. Not sure what happened as that is one he should have been able to recover from. The likelihood of hamstring injury recurrence increases following hamstring injury or surgery according to medical articles I have read. Assuming that is the case, a hitter needs a strong base to complete a powerful swing. Eloy hasn't had that in a long time. He is probably toast as far as being an MLB hitter. Those who repeat memes about players of color being inherently lazy, unmotivated, greedy, etc, are not well informed or are ill-informed, imo. I had the pleasure of meeting Eloy and thought he was a great kid. I wish him the best. Edited Tuesday at 07:43 PM by tray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted Tuesday at 08:03 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:03 PM 22 minutes ago, tray said: The likelihood of hamstring injury recurrence increases following hamstring injury or surgery according to medical articles I have read. Assuming that is the case, a hitter needs a strong base to complete a powerful swing. Eloy hasn't had that in a long time. He is probably toast as far as being an MLB hitter. Those who repeat memes about players of color being inherently lazy, unmotivated, greedy, etc, are not well informed or are ill-informed, imo. I had the pleasure of meeting Eloy and thought he was a great kid. I wish him the best. Absolutely. The highest predictor of an injury is a previous injury. And not just the same injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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