Teoscar Hernandez signs with the Dodgers

[ptatc]

7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I'm certain the Sox are a revenue sharing team maybe just not for the luxury tax money. All owners contribute a pecentage of their local revenues which is redistributed to lower revenue teams. What the Sox get from revenue sharing and where they are on that totem poll would be good to know. The Sox are somewhere among the teams that would receive  less since they are considered a big market team which is why they aren't among the 15 teams that do get luxury tax money . So they get some revenue sharing money but so does every team but the Sox probably are in the group just below those teams receiving the least amount. Some funds may be distributed equally and some there is a pecking order.

I know a percentage local media revenue is shared among all mlb teams. Is there a way to find out this? I know many teams lost a significant amount due to some rsn going bankrupt.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

I would suggest following the link which has many more links in it to read facts and opinions based on revenue sharing fallacies about competitive balance. You can draw your own conclusions.

Most articles are after the new CBA passed in 2022. How RSN losses affected earnings regarding that $200M that every team allegedly gets is unknown unless you can find out in more recent articles.

Edited December 29, 2024 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[ptatc]

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I would suggest following the link which has many more links in it to read facts and opinions based on revenue sharing fallacies about competitive balance. You can draw your own conclusions.

Most articles are after the new CBA passed in 2022. How RSN losses affected earnings regarding that $200M that every team allegedly gets is unknown unless you can find out in more recent articles.

Thanks!

[caulfield12]

Apr 18, 2024 · Teams that meet the criteria to be classified as big-market are not eligible for revenue-sharing, no matter what their revenue situation. As for ..

The White Sox received a Lottery pick in the 2024 Draft, and they are a “payor club” -- a team that gives rather than receives revenue sharing dollars; those clubs are not allowed to have consecutive Lottery picks.”

Edited December 29, 2024 by caulfield12

[hi8is]

4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I'm certain the Sox are a revenue sharing team maybe just not for the luxury tax money. All owners contribute a pecentage of their local revenues which is redistributed to lower revenue teams. What the Sox get from revenue sharing and where they are on that totem poll would be good to know. The Sox are somewhere among the teams that would receive  less since they are considered a big market team which is why they aren't among the 15 teams that do get luxury tax money . So they get some revenue sharing money but so does every team but the Sox probably are in the group just below those teams receiving the least amount. Some funds may be distributed equally and some there is a pecking order.

Ah good to be corrected, I thought we were not a revenue sharing team and that is why we’re not eligible for competitive balance picks.

[champagne030]

6 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I would suggest following the link which has many more links in it to read facts and opinions based on revenue sharing fallacies about competitive balance. You can draw your own conclusions.

Most articles are after the new CBA passed in 2022. How RSN losses affected earnings regarding that $200M that every team allegedly gets is unknown unless you can find out in more recent articles.

I'd suggest looking up the Braves 10K's, it's all public knowledge.  You'll need to wait until roughly 3/31/25 to see 2024 numbers.  It's common knowledge that the White Sox have $200M+/yr without selling one ticket/parking pass/beer, ect.

[southsider2k5]

51 minutes ago, champagne030 said:

I'd suggest looking up the Braves 10K's, it's all public knowledge.  You'll need to wait until roughly 3/31/25 to see 2024 numbers.  It's common knowledge that the White Sox have $200M+/yr without selling one ticket/parking pass/beer, ect.

They also had around $150 million of expenses not related to players, because their last numbers show they lost 28 million on $288m in revenue with $187m described as players expenses. 

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

They also had around $150 million of expenses not related to players, because their last numbers show they lost 28 million on $288m in revenue with $187m described as players expenses. 

Doesn't that include all their minor league operations, coaches/instructors/scouts, travel, per diem/hotels, etc.??

[caulfield12]

Still think it's a complete joke the Cardinals are eligible for Competitive Balance compensation.  And the DBacks just spent over $200 million on Burnes.  Finally, Miami is a large market by definition.

Round A

1. Brewers
2. Tigers
3. Mariners
4. Twins
5. Rays
6. Reds
7. Athletics
8. Marlins

Round B

1. Guardians
2. Orioles
3. D-backs
4. Royals
5. Cardinals
6. Pirates
7. Rockies

Edited December 30, 2024 by caulfield12

[champagne030]

11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Doesn't that include all their minor league operations, coaches/instructors/scouts, travel, per diem/hotels, etc.??

And debt service, stock options, Battery Park development, ect.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

6 hours ago, hi8is said:

Ah good to be corrected, I thought we were not a revenue sharing team and that is why we’re not eligible for competitive balance picks.

I'm pretty sure they have different rules for each time revenue is shared.

Somewhere among the link  posted there are more link within  the article.

One article talks about the software that MLB sold Disney for hundreds of millions of dollars that every team got equal shares for. That is considered revenue sharing also. It's been talked about here on Soxtalk multiple times. You could probably read for more than a couple hours following links and become a revenue sharing expert .

[hi8is]

22 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I'm pretty sure they have different rules for each time revenue is shared.

Somewhere among the link  posted there are more link within  the article.

One article talks about the software that MLB sold Disney for hundreds of millions of dollars that every team got equal shares for. That is considered revenue sharing also. It's been talked about here on Soxtalk multiple times. You could probably read for more than a couple hours following links and become a revenue sharing expert .

Yea man - I remember the Advanced Media sale to Disney. Insane how much money is in baseball now compared to when we were growing up…

You even more so… you likely have distant memories of when this country actually promised hope.

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I'm pretty sure they have different rules for each time revenue is shared.

Somewhere among the link  posted there are more link within  the article.

One article talks about the software that MLB sold Disney for hundreds of millions of dollars that every team got equal shares for. That is considered revenue sharing also. It's been talked about here on Soxtalk multiple times. You could probably read for more than a couple hours following links and become a revenue sharing expert .

That was $48 million per team for BAM Tech but just a one shot deal.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

27 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

That was $48 million per team for BAM Tech but just a one shot deal.

No not really , try to read up on it. I think there were 3 separate payments as I recall. If we're both relying on memory we're both making mistakes .

[caulfield12]

2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

No not really , try to read up on it. I think there were 3 separate payments as I recall. If we're both relying on memory we're both making mistakes .

https://cubsinsider.com/2022/11/30/cubs-other-mlb-teams-reap-another-30m-each-from-bamtech-sale/

Looks like at least $113 million per team....in total over at least three separate installments/payments.

Edited December 30, 2024 by caulfield12