Teoscar Hernandez signs with the Dodgers

[Chicago White Sox]

46 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Who cares?  Every other team can do the same thing.  Yes, some teams make more money than others, but keep thinking Jerry couldn’t go on a spending splurge if he truly wanted to, at least to a lesser extent than the Dodgers.

Remember how the Sox cut salary for the first rebuild and are now doing the same thing again?  I’m pretty sure they still haven’t spent all the money they saved from cutting so much salary during the first rebuild.

They can’t though.

[WhiteSox2023]

7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Oh no doubt, but Jerry won’t spend the money up-front to build a best in class product.

So there, you just called out the true problem.

The Dodgers almost always spend the most but they don’t win the WS every year, do they?

Meanwhile, Jerry doesn’t even try to win his own division the majority of the time.

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[WhiteSox2023]

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

They can’t though.

They can try to win their division, or even a WC, and then see what happens.  Last I checked, the Dodgers haven’t won 10 straight WS.

Edited 15 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[Chicago White Sox]

38 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Meanwhile, Jerry doesn’t even try.  He endeavors for .500 seasons because that’s good enough for him.  Remember the quotes he has made about how coming in 2nd place is good?  I hope the Dodgers win every WS from now until eternity.  Maybe it will force cheap skate owners like Jerry to actually spend some money and try to compete.  But no, Jerry loves rebuilds because he gets to cash in on $60 to $70 million dollar payrolls.

Where in the fucking world did I make a single comment rationalizing Jerry’s conduct as owner?  I’m just sick of people with zero business acumen cheering on one of the richest two organizations signing a f*** load of free agents and saying “why don’t they all do that”.  This shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.

And your constant “Jerry loves rebuilds” comments are just plain dumb.  The dude literally went years avoiding a rebuild even though it was the right thing to do.  And the only reason he’s rebuilding right now is because KW & Hahn completely destroyed the org and there is no other option.  It’s wild that there are countless things to rip Jerry for and yet you still somehow need to create your own ones.

[Chicago White Sox]

8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

They can try to win their division, or even a WC, and then see what happens.  Last I checked, the Dodgers haven’t won 10 straight WS.

Keep moving the goal posts.  The Dodgers being uncapped has nothing to do with Jerry’s cheapness, risk aversion, or general suckiness as owner.

[Chicago White Sox]

10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So there, you just called out the true problem.

The Dodgers almost always spend the most but they don’t win the WS every year, do they?

Meanwhile, Jerry doesn’t even try to win his own division the majority of the time.

Yeah, Jerry fucking sucks.  Have never said otherwise.  But he doesn’t have an $8 billion TV deal that will allow him to spend with no limits.

[Bob Sacamano]

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Yeah, Jerry fucking sucks.  Have never said otherwise.  But he doesn’t have an $8 billion TV deal that will allow him to spend with no limits.

Other teams could have afforded this contract. As I said, Pirates have a need for offense, currently in “their window” and a $75M payroll. They could have done this.

Edited 14 hours ago by Bob Sacamano

[WhiteSox2023]

13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Where in the fucking world did I make a single comment rationalizing Jerry’s conduct as owner?  I’m just sick of people with zero business acumen cheering on one of the richest two organizations signing a f*** load of free agents and saying “why don’t they all do that”.  This shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.

And your constant “Jerry loves rebuilds” comments are just plain dumb.  The dude literally went years avoiding a rebuild even though it was the right thing to do.  And the only reason he’s rebuilding right now is because KW & Hahn completely destroyed the org and there is no other option.  It’s wild that there are countless things to rip Jerry for and yet you still somehow need to create your own ones.

Zero business acumen?  I think you are making too many assumptions about posters you don’t know personally.

I never said the Sox could do what the Dodgers are doing.  I did however say they could spend enough money to try to win their own division or a WC.  And from there, who knows?  Like I said, the Dodgers whom you continue crying about have not won 10 straight WS rings.

Jerry enjoys coming in second place.  He has said so himself.  It makes the fans want to come back and spend more the next season.  He is not an owner that truly wants to “JUST WIN, BABY”, to quote greg.  That is why Jerry needs to be in this conversation.  Period.

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[WhiteSox2023]

13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Keep moving the goal posts.  The Dodgers being uncapped has nothing to do with Jerry’s cheapness, risk aversion, or general suckiness as owner.

Moving the goal posts?  Wow.  So if the Sox make the playoffs via winning their division or WC, it is impossible for them to win a WS?  How did 2005 happen?  Yes, it was fluky.  But last I checked, the Dodgers or the other top 5 high ass payroll teams don’t win the WS every year.  Are you re-writing history?

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[WhiteSox2023]

11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Yeah, Jerry fucking sucks.  Have never said otherwise.  But he doesn’t have an $8 billion TV deal that will allow him to spend with no limits.

Does he have enough money to maintain a payroll much higher than the current $60 million dollar payroll?

Yes, let’s stop playing stupid here…

Edited 14 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[Chicago White Sox]

13 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Other teams could have afforded this contract. As I said, Pirates have a need for offense, currently in “their window” and a $75M payroll. They could have done this.

Sure…but they can’t afford 10 of these contracts like the Dodgers can.

[Chicago White Sox]

8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Does he have enough money to maintain a payroll much higher than the current $60 million dollar payroll?

Yes, let’s stop playing stupid here…

Who is making this argument?  Literally no one

[Chicago White Sox]

13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Moving the goal posts?  Wow.  So if the Sox make the playoffs via winning their division or WC, it is impossible for them to win a WS?  How did 2005 happen?  Yes, it was fluky.  But last I checked, the Dodgers or the other top 5 high ass payroll teams don’t win the WS every year.  Are you re-writing history?

You have turned a dig against a sports league being uncapped and allowing the couple uber rich teams to spend whatever they see fit into a hissy fit about Jerry being cheap.  The former has nothing to do with the latter.  So yeah, you are arguing against things I have never said.  I would love to see a salary floor in addition to a salary cap.  The NFL is a best in class product because all 30 teams have a shot.  The same can’t be said about baseball…full stop.

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[WhiteSox2023]

10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Who is making this argument?  Literally no one

So what is your ridiculous whiny point?  Until the Dodgers win the WS every fucking year, the highest payroll isn’t the end all be all like you are making it out to be.

The Texas Rangers won the WS in 2023.  Their opening day payroll was 9th overall that year at $195 million.  The Sox opening day payroll that year was $181 million.  It IS fucking possible to win a WS without spending like the Dodgers.

Maybe you should move to Nashville again if you have “zero business acumen”?

Edited 14 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[WhiteSox2023]

10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

You have turned a dig against a sports league being uncapped and allowing the couple uber rich teams to spend whatever they see fit into a hissy fit about Jerry being cheap.  The former has nothing to do with the latter.  So yeah, you are arguing against things I have never said.  I would love to see a salary floor in addition to a salary cap.  The NFL is a best in class product because all 30 teams have a shot.  The same can’t be said about baseball…full stop.

Not a hissy fit at all.  See my previous post.

My previous post proves that you are wrong.  It isn’t necessary to be a top 5 spender like the Dodgers to win a WS.  That covers many more owners and teams than just Jerry and the Sox.

[Chicago White Sox]

5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So what is your ridiculous whiny point?  Until the Dodgers win the WS every fucking year, the highest payroll isn’t the end all be all like you are making it out to be.

The Texas Rangers won the WS in 2023.  Their opening day payroll was 9th overall that year at $195 million.  The Sox opening day payroll that year was $181 million.

Maybe you should move to Nashville again if you have “zero business acumen”?

🤣🤣🤣…the dude who does nothing but post 50 times a day whining about the White Sox is calling me out for ripping the Dodgers one time for being able to outspend the competition.  This s%*# is fucking incredible.  I’m glad you think the volatility of the playoffs means it’s ok for teams like the Dodgers, Mets, & Yankees to spend whatever they like.  Let’s see here, seven of the top 10 payroll teams made the playoffs (70%) last year, while only seven of the other 20 made the playoffs (35%).  No correlation there whatsoever.

Not sure what the Nashville dig is intended to mean, but please keep em coming!

[Bob Sacamano]

24 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Sure…but they can’t afford 10 of these contracts like the Dodgers can.

They could have afforded this one. They don’t need to get 10. Just get at least one and show your fans you are trying.

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[Chicago White Sox]

3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

They could have afforded this one.

Sure, but not the point I’m making.

[Bob Sacamano]

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Sure, but not the point I’m making.

Baseball has the most variety when it comes to its winners. So many of the guys the Dodgers spent a ton of money on last offseason didn’t even contribute in the postseason. Still actually have to play the games.

I will admit, they look so much better going in this upcoming season. I didn’t think their lineup looked that impressive for what the payroll was going into last yea.r.

[WhiteSox2023]

14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

🤣🤣🤣…the dude who does nothing but post 50 times a day whining about the White Sox is calling me out for ripping the Dodgers one time for being able to outspend the competition.  This s%*# is fucking incredible.  I’m glad you think the volatility of the playoffs means it’s ok for teams like the Dodgers, Mets, & Yankees to spend whatever they like.  Let’s see here, seven of the top 10 payroll teams made the playoffs (70%) last year, while only seven of the other 20 made the playoffs (35%).  No correlation there whatsoever.

Not sure what the Nashville dig is intended to mean, but please keep em coming!

The Rangers winning a WS 2 years ago is enough to support the parity you are pretending doesn’t exist.

You made a dig about people with “zero business acumen” having opinions about the very situation you are crying about.

Meanwhile, you are the same poster that claimed to move from Chicago to Nashville due to the Sox sucking, not due to a new higher paying job, or property taxes, etc.

So who has the poor business acumen?

Honestly, I can work anywhere in the US due to my company's full-time WFH/remote work policy, but I surely wouldn’t consider moving from Chicago due to the Sox.  And yes, I could save a ton of money moving away from this city.

But I’m not going to let a crappy owner like Jerry dictate where I live.

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[soulfly]

18 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

They could have afforded this one. They don’t need to get 10. Just get at least one and show your fans you are trying.

The Sox also signed Andrew Benintendi, they did afford it.  Look how well that went for them.  Even if a team needs some offense, a contract like that is awful for said team that can't afford to whiff on 20+ million a year contract.  Sucks, but this is where the game is today.

[WhiteSox2023]

4 minutes ago, soulfly said:

The Sox also signed Andrew Benintendi, they did afford it.  Look how well that went for them.  Even if a team needs some offense, a contract like that is awful for said team that can't afford to whiff on 20+ million a year contract.  Sucks, but this is where the game is today.

Okay — don’t sign the wrong guy next time.  I remember the Benintendi thread back then and numerous posters were questioning Hahn signing such a mediocre player to such a large deal.

[Chicago White Sox]

5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Rangers winning a WS 2 years ago is enough to support the parity you are pretending doesn’t exist.

You made a dig about people with “zero business acumen” having opinions about the very situation you are crying about.

Meanwhile, you are the same poster that claimed to move from Chicago to Nashville due to the Sox sucking, not due to a new higher paying job, or property taxes, etc.

So who has the poor business acumen?

Honestly, I can work anywhere in the US due to my company's full-time WFH/remote work policy, but I surely wouldn’t consider moving from Chicago due to the Sox.  And yes, I could save a ton of money moving away from this city.

But I’m not going to let a crappy owner like Jerry dictate where I live.

I moved to Nashville for a promotion, higher paying job, no state income taxes, and significantly cheaper property taxes…I simply didn’t want those things at the expense of Chicago prior to the Machado fiasco.  And guess what, after getting all those things, I realized that Chicago (not just the White Sox) was more important to me and I moved back.  And I couldn’t be happier right now despite the suckiness of this franchise and the other Chicago sports teams.

And I’m not looking to partake in a “business acumen” dick off here.  I have no fucking clue what you do for a living and likewise you with me.  That being said, you were whining about revenue sharing income a few weeks ago and had no idea how it actually worked but had drawn significant conclusions.  And in this moment, you can’t separate the unfairness of high revenue teams more or less being uncapped with the fact certain (but not all) owners are cheap.  So call it whatever you like, but you clearly aren’t getting how the financial side of this game works.  Baseball on a parity level completely fucking sucks.  And no, the Rangers winning a World Series doesn’t change that fact.  But keep cheering on the team with the $8 billion TV deal outspending all the competition.

[fathom]

The WSox are playing a different sport than most of these teams.  They’re never going to be competitive again under Reinsdorf.

[WestEddy]

40 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I moved to Nashville for a promotion, higher paying job, no state income taxes, and significantly cheaper property taxes…I simply didn’t want those things at the expense of Chicago prior to the Machado fiasco.  And guess what, after getting all those things, I realized that Chicago (not just the White Sox) was more important to me and I moved back.  And I couldn’t be happier right now despite the suckiness of this franchise and the other Chicago sports teams.

And I’m not looking to partake in a “business acumen” dick off here.  I have no fucking clue what you do for a living and likewise you with me.  That being said, you were whining about revenue sharing income a few weeks ago and had no idea how it actually worked but had drawn significant conclusions.  And in this moment, you can’t separate the unfairness of high revenue teams more or less being uncapped with the fact certain (but not all) owners are cheap.  So call it whatever you like, but you clearly aren’t getting how the financial side of this game works.  Baseball on a parity level completely fucking sucks.  And no, the Rangers winning a World Series doesn’t change that fact.  But keep cheering on the team with the $8 billion TV deal outspending all the competition.

The Rangers went out and signed Corey Seager, Marcus Semien and Jacob DeGrom, so it's not like the Rangers are the Tampa Bay Rays.