caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 10:50 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:50 AM (edited) Left Fielders *Miguel Andujar (31) Michael Conforto (33) too expensive Tyler O’Neill (31) – can opt out...too expensive Rob Refsnyder..too old Chris Taylor (35) – $12MM club option with a $4MM buyout...too old Center Fielders Trent Grisham (29) thoroughly inconsistent on offense and not cheap *Cedric Mullins (31) best of bad options Luis Robert Jr. (28) – $20MM club option with a $2MM buyout ADVERTISEMENT Right Fielders Cody Bellinger (30) – $25MM player option with a $5MM buyout too expensive Mitch Haniger (35) too old *Max Kepler (33) maybe but decline coming Starling Marte (37) too old Tyler O’Neill (31) – can opt out Hunter Renfroe (34) old and slow Austin Slater (33) White Sox special *Lane Thomas (30) Kyle Tucker (29) too expensive Mike Yastrzemski (35) too old but Hawk would be elated/psyched for this Edited yesterday at 10:51 AM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted yesterday at 12:46 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:46 PM Welp, I guess they better keep Robert after all and I’m sure Braden Montgomery will be rushed up so he can fill the RF black hole in 2026. It’s the White Sox way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted yesterday at 12:51 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:51 PM 7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Welp, I guess they better keep Robert after all and I’m sure Braden Montgomery will be rushed up so he can fill the RF black hole in 2026. It’s the White Sox way. Nope, this sounds like the @JUSTgottaBELIEVE way of trying maximize wins during the early years of a rebuild instead of making good long-term decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted yesterday at 12:51 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:51 PM I'm sure one of the infield prospects they have will find themselves out there. Which worries me a lot less than sticking a first baseman into RF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted yesterday at 12:54 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:54 PM Ok 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 12:55 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:55 PM 5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: I'm sure one of the infield prospects they have will find themselves out there. Which worries me a lot less than sticking a first baseman into RF. Baldwin and/or Ramos will be the first two to go...Vargas could move to left as well, but not sure how eager Benintendi is to DH full time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 12:56 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:56 PM 5 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Ok It's about as exciting as Mike McCarthy as the new Bears HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted yesterday at 12:57 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:57 PM 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nope, this sounds like the @JUSTgottaBELIEVE way of trying maximize wins during the early years of a rebuild instead of making good long-term decisions. Wanna bet they rush Montgomery to fill RF for at least a good portion of the 2026 season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted yesterday at 01:00 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:00 PM 11 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: I'm sure one of the infield prospects they have will find themselves out there. Which worries me a lot less than sticking a first baseman into RF. Another cherished white sox tradition. Putting guys in defensive positions they haven’t played in college or the minors but thinking they can capably handle the assignment for the first time in mlb. Gotta love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted yesterday at 01:07 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:07 PM Could bring TA back to play CF since the Sox have already foolishly stocked up on Catchers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted yesterday at 01:09 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:09 PM But if we’re being realistic about 2026 & 2027: Trade Robert for a near ready CF prospect at this year’s deadline Use Baldwin as your primary RF until Montgomery is ready by 2027 Benintendi is probably your LF for one last half season in 2026 Start giving some LF reps to some of your IF guys to add versatility Add reinforcements in the offseason ahead of the 2027 season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted yesterday at 01:15 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:15 PM Also, trades are very much possible. If all goes well, we should have some SP to trade. Had we chosen McCarthy over Fletcher, we’d already have spot solved for. Just need to get it right the next time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 01:16 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 01:16 PM (edited) 45 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: But if we’re being realistic about 2026 & 2027: Trade Robert for a near ready CF prospect at this year’s deadline Use Baldwin as your primary RF until Montgomery is ready by 2027 Benintendi is probably your LF for one last half season in 2026 Start giving some LF reps to some of your IF guys to add versatility Add reinforcements in the offseason ahead of the 2027 season Does Baldwin have the arm for right...let alone the power? Seems more like a CF or LF. "Baldwin faired as good as a rookie could fare coming up for the first time. Baldwin had 24 hits, 6 doubles, 8 RBI, 2 HRs, 4 stolen bases, for a slash line of .211/.250/.316 with and OPS of .566." Hopefully they're joking about a 566 ops being an indicator of success. https://www.chicitysports.com/the-chicago-white-sox-have-position-battles Edited 23 hours ago by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 01:17 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 01:17 PM 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Also, trades are very much possible. If all goes well, we should have some SP to trade. Had we chosen McCarthy over Fletcher, we’d already have spot solved for. Just need to get it right the next time. Based on McCarthy's entire career history...he still looks more like a 4th outfielder than an everyday starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted yesterday at 01:21 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:21 PM 20 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Another cherished white sox tradition. Putting guys in defensive positions they haven’t played in college or the minors but thinking they can capably handle the assignment for the first time in mlb. Gotta love it. Baldwin played RF in college. And some of the others can get some test run in LF next year given it will be a lost season. But given the amount of stipulations you have in place on what moves are allowed, I see why Santander is your only option to solve our OF needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted yesterday at 01:22 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:22 PM 26 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Wanna bet they rush Montgomery to fill RF for at least a good portion of the 2026 season? I don’t think so, but what are you trying to argue here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted yesterday at 01:25 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:25 PM 12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: But if we’re being realistic about 2026 & 2027: Trade Robert for a near ready CF prospect at this year’s deadline Use Baldwin as your primary RF until Montgomery is ready by 2027 Benintendi is probably your LF for one last half season in 2026 Start giving some LF reps to some of your IF guys to add versatility Add reinforcements in the offseason ahead of the 2027 season Because it’s the White Sox, here’s the more likely scenario. -Robert gets hurt this season and his last couple years with the Sox end similarly to Moncada’s. Sox get nothing in return for him before he walks. -Montgomery is rushed to the majors in 2026 and he struggles mightily because the development process was incomplete. -Benintendi is stuck with the Sox until August 2027 before they finally cut bait and DFA him the last two months of the season. -Sox give outfield reps to Vargas and Ramos before realizing they’re better off just leaving those reps to Fletcher and Deloach. -Sox sign 31 yo Cedric Mullins because it’s all they can afford and he falls off precipitously because the bulk of his value lies in his speed and defense that doesn’t age well in his 30s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Does Baldwin have the arm for right...let alone the power? Seems more like a CF or LF. @Timmy U - How is Brooks’ arm? Baseball America called it plus coming out of college, but it didn’t register that well on Statcast this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 29 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Based on McCarthy's entire career history...he still looks more like a 4th outfielder than an everyday starter. What does that say about Fletcher then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 22 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Because it’s the White Sox, here’s the more likely scenario. -Robert gets hurt this season and his last couple years with the Sox end similarly to Moncada’s. Sox get nothing in return for him before he walks. -Montgomery is rushed to the majors in 2026 and he struggles mightily because the development process was incomplete. -Benintendi is stuck with the Sox until August 2027 before they finally cut bait and DFA him the last two months of the season. -Sox give outfield reps to Vargas and Ramos before realizing they’re better off just leaving those reps to Fletcher and Deloach. -Sox sign 31 yo Cedric Mullins because it’s all they can afford and he falls off precipitously because the bulk of his value lies in his speed and defense that doesn’t age well in his 30s. You need to take a breather from White Sox baseball my friend. Like nothing wrong with being pessimistic given how shitty things have gotten, but we also need to avoid going full Parkman and assume Murphy’s Law at all turns. Robert could get hurt and we end up with nothing, but the rest of these are all absurd. There is no reason to believe Montgomery will be rushed at this time, but it’s very possible he moves pretty fast is ready for a shot by the 2H of the 2026 season. If that changes, then by all means call them out. My guess is that Jerry would be willing to eat 1.5 years of Benintendi’s contract, which would be sometime in the 2H of 2026. I think there’s almost zero chance he is here by 2027. Fletcher & DeLoach don’t project as major league players right now, so I’m not sure what there is to gain giving them more reps in the corners to them over other young players (although I can see an argument against Vargas FWIW). The Sox will have an insane amount of financial flexibility ahead of the 2027 season if they don’t blow their load this offseason on Santander & the gang and there will multiple quality free agent OFs available that offseason in our price range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted 23 hours ago Author Share Posted 23 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: What does that say about Fletcher then? Not much good… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 55 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Another cherished white sox tradition. Putting guys in defensive positions they haven’t played in college or the minors but thinking they can capably handle the assignment for the first time in mlb. Gotta love it. Other teams do it just fine. The White Sox f*** up because they try it with their most unathletic people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You need to take a breather from White Sox baseball my friend. Like nothing wrong with being pessimistic given how shitty things have gotten, but we also need to avoid going full Parkman and assume Murphy’s Law at all turns. Robert could get hurt and we end up with nothing, but the rest of these are all absurd. There is no reason to believe Montgomery will be rushed at this time, but it’s very possible he moves pretty fast is ready for a shot by the 2H of the 2026 season. If that changes, then by all means call them out. My guess is that Jerry would be willing to eat 1.5 years of Benintendi’s contract, which would be sometime in the 2H of 2026. I think there’s almost zero chance he is here by 2027. Fletcher & DeLoach don’t project as major league players right now, so I’m not sure what there is to gain giving them more reps in the corners to them over other young players (although I can see an argument against Vargas FWIW). The Sox will have an insane amount of financial flexibility ahead of the 2027 season if they don’t blow their load this offseason on Santander & the gang and there will multiple quality free agent OFs available that offseason in our price range. There is nothing absurd about what I outlined. These things have already happened to this organization in recent years (just swap the current names with past names) so there’s no reason they can’t/won’t happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: There is nothing absurd about what I outlined. These things have already happened to this organization in recent years (just swap the current names with past names) so there’s no reason they can’t/won’t happen again. Ok buddy… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Ok buddy… Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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