JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago We already saw a similar career arc with Moncada as to what we’ve been seeing with Robert. Guess we will see what 2025 holds. The Sox have consistently rushed position player prospects to mlb before they’re ready. I don’t need to name all the guys, you know who they are. When’s the last time the Sox ate $20M to cut bait on a vet? When’s the last time the Sox successfully moved someone from the infield with no prior OF experience to become a plus outfielder? Mullins is exactly the type of FA I would expect the Sox to sign to fill an OF void in 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 12 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Am I wrong? Are you wrong that Fletcher & DeLoach deserve playing time on the major league roster at their advanced ages despite not even hitting in AAA? Yes, I think you are very wrong there. I think saying that we won’t be able to afford anyone but Cedric Mullins is completely ridiculous and doesn’t warrant further comment. We’ve seen Reinsdorf eat contracts in the past, see Dallas Keuchel’s contract as the most recent example. So again, you’re likely wrong there. As for rushing Montgomery, we’re debating a future event so impossible to say right now, but Getz’s track record both as GM and Player Development director don’t suggest he’s one to regularly rush prospects. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: It's about as exciting as Mike McCarthy as the new Bears HC. Sorry bud, Staring at another 100 loss team doesn’t make me think “which outfielder are we gonna NOT sign in 2026” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 13 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: We already saw a similar career arc with Moncada as to what we’ve been seeing with Robert. Guess we will see what 2025 holds. The Sox have consistently rushed position player prospects to mlb before they’re ready. I don’t need to name all the guys, you know who they are. When’s the last time the Sox ate $20M to cut bait on a vet? When’s the last time the Sox successfully moved someone from the infield with no prior OF experience to become a plus outfielder? Mullins is exactly the type of FA I would expect the Sox to sign to fill an OF void in 2026. Rick Hahn rushed top draft selections to the majors if they could fill holes on the parent club (Vaughn, Crochet, etc). I’m not sure Chris Getz was that aggressive with the rest of his prospects, but please provide some examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Rick Hahn rushed top draft selections to the majors if they could fill holes on the parent club (Vaughn, Crochet, etc). I’m not sure Chris Getz was that aggressive with the rest of his prospects, but please provide some examples. Chris Getz has been GM for ~17 months. The farm was pretty much barren when he took over. But he still did promote the few prospects they did have that were remotely close to mlb - Baldwin, Ramos, Thorpe, Cannon, Nastrini, Leasure, Berroa, Bush, Eder, Iriarte. You think all of those guys were MLB ready? And…it sure sounds like they intend to promote 6 of their top 7 prospects in 2025 ready or not. Rumblings of Montgomery opening day SS? Schultz and Smith seeing mlb innings when neither has pitched more than 61 innings in AA. What’s the rush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago It's almost as if player development is the most important thing going forward with this rebuild and learning how to draft and develop internal young talent is more important than the free agent market. Nah, all the Benintendi's!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) . Edited 21 hours ago by Nardiwashere Misread original post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 48 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It's almost as if player development is the most important thing going forward with this rebuild and learning how to draft and develop internal young talent is more important than the free agent market. Nah, all the Benintendi's!!! Why does it have to be one or the other and not both? The last rebuild clearly failed because the prospects didn’t develop properly for the most part AND they were terrible in their free agent signings. You act like I’m advocating trading top prospects for veterans. Signing free agents only costs money for a roster set to open this season at ~$60M. You want to keep the precious 2nd round pick and sign from the next tier of FAs? Fine but what’s the excuse for not signing Kim, Hoffman, and Profar? And, no, I don’t buy that those guys would block top prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Why does it have to be one or the other and not both? The last rebuild clearly failed because the prospects didn’t develop properly for the most part AND they were terrible in their free agent signings. You act like I’m advocating trading top prospects for veterans. Signing free agents only costs money for a roster set to open this season at ~$60M. You want to keep the precious 2nd round pick and sign from the next tier of FAs? Fine but what’s the excuse for not signing Kim, Hoffman, and Profar? And, no, I don’t buy that those guys would block top prospects. I act like? You are the one acting like this is the very last opportunity in the history of baseball for outside talent acquisition, especially when the main guy in question is a posted foreign player, who wouldn't have made any list two years ago about upcoming free agents anyway, just like this list is now. But no, you keep on rolling along there. Chase those windmills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Sorry bud, Staring at another 100 loss team doesn’t make me think “which outfielder are we gonna NOT sign in 2026” Yep, as long as Benintendi is still around and the Sox expected to be bad again in 2026, I wouldn’t even be expecting the Sox to be looking for a free agent outfielder next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I act like? You are the one acting like this is the very last opportunity in the history of baseball for outside talent acquisition, especially when the main guy in question is a posted foreign player, who wouldn't have made any list two years ago about upcoming free agents anyway, just like this list is now. But no, you keep on rolling along there. Chase those windmills. Ha-Seong Kim is a posted foreign player? He was a 10.4 fWAR player over the past 3 seasons for the Padres so no clue what you’re talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Ha-Seong Kim is a posted foreign player? He was a 10.4 fWAR player over the past 3 seasons for the Padres so no clue what you’re talking about. Apparently you haven't heard of Sasaki? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Keep on. Keep on what? You don’t even know what you’re debating at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Keep on what? You don’t even know what you’re debating at this point. Look. I have no idea what is going on in your head right now, and am really avoiding responding you to because this is completely unproductive and ruining multiple threads with this. Again, run along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Why do I start to feel depressed and sad every time I read conversations/debates between posters in Sox Talk? That is not a knock on anyone, it just reminds me how far this team is off from being a good MLB team. White Sox are my favorite sports teams in the world. However, there is no light at the end of the tunnel to this sadness and pain. Anyway, back to debating AAA outfielders that will start for the White Sox. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Look. I have no idea what is going on in your head right now, and am really avoiding responding you to because this is completely unproductive and ruining multiple threads with this. Again, run along. It’s ruining multiple threads because you don’t even know the players that are in discussion but forming hard fast opinions about them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 10 minutes ago, 2Deep said: Why do I start to feel depressed and sad every time I read conversations/debates between posters in Sox Talk? That is not a knock on anyone, it just reminds me how far this team is off from being a good MLB team. White Sox are my favorite sports teams in the world. However, there is no light at the end of the tunnel to this sadness and pain. Anyway, back to debating AAA infielders that will be converted to outfielders that will start for the White Sox. Fixed it for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 8 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: It’s ruining multiple threads because you don’t even know the players that are in discussion but forming hard fast opinions about them lol Cool, then run along and quit responding to everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Apparently you haven't heard of Sasaki? I never once brought up Sasaki in any of these threads so no idea where that’s coming from. The top Japanese players aren’t even a factor for the Sox now or in the future. They’ll never sign guys like Ohtani, Yamamoto, or Sasaki. Not even worth discussing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Cool, then run along and quit responding to everything. No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: There is nothing absurd about what I outlined. These things have already happened to this organization in recent years (just swap the current names with past names) so there’s no reason they can’t/won’t happen again. You were recently much more positive. Who hurt you? Edited 20 hours ago by WestEddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: You were recently much more positive. Why hurt you? Why is wanting to sign quality free agents considered negative? Feel like I’m living in bizarro world here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I never once brought up Sasaki in any of these threads so no idea where that’s coming from. The top Japanese players aren’t even a factor for the Sox now or in the future. They’ll never sign guys like Ohtani, Yamamoto, or Sasaki. Not even worth discussing. Finally we agree on something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Finally we agree on something. You brought up Sasaki, not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: You were recently much more positive. Why hurt you? He definitely was. I must have brought @JUSTgottaBELIEVE to the dark side… I’m hopeful on some prospects but we are still the Sox and the Sox usually ending up Soxing things up. And Jerry will never spend the money it takes to win, but perhaps like you said he will be “gone” in 3+ years. Edited 21 hours ago by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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