White Sox sign LHP Martin Pérez

[southsider2k5]

55 minutes ago, Tony said:

I just looked at the Sox 40 man because I was/am sure there are plenty of guys you can DFA, and was shocked at how many guys I've straight up never heard of, some that actually got time with the Sox last year. 

Fraser Ellard? 

Prelander Berrora?

Ron Marinaccio? 

Gus Varland? 

Man, it's a rough list lol

Today they are quality depth that will give us a huge improvement.  Tomorrow they are just guys who we upgraded for and cut.

[caulfield12]

15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Today they are quality depth that will give us a huge improvement.  Tomorrow they are just guys who we upgraded for and cut.

Marinara Sauce is the favorite to close right?

[caulfield12]

All the former Padres...except for ones that can actually play SS.

[caulfield12]

3 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

Have the Twins spent any money this offseason?

Their payroll is over $140+ million...

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/offseason-tracker/twins

The answer is not much of note.

Edited 21 hours ago by caulfield12

[ChiSox59]

2 hours ago, Tony said:

I just looked at the Sox 40 man because I was/am sure there are plenty of guys you can DFA, and was shocked at how many guys I've straight up never heard of, some that actually got time with the Sox last year. 

Fraser Ellard? 

Prelander Berrora?

Ron Marinaccio? 

Gus Varland? 

Man, it's a rough list lol

Not exactly an exciting list, but you probably just listed like 40% of opening day bullpen.  Berroa was a big part of the Santos return, and is actually pretty interesting.  Marinaccio was recently claimed and has a 3.22 big league ERA in over 120 innings; he might be the closer.  Varland was recently claimed too, and was actually pretty good out of the pen end of last season.  I don't care much for Ellard, and he's probably who they cut for Perez, but the org liked him enough to give him 25 big league appearances last season, and was serviceable. 

The point isn't really that these guys are not cuttable, but 3/4 guys you listed are literally guys this regime brought in very recently. 

Edited 20 hours ago by ChiSox59

[caulfield12]

$7 million in signings announced in one day...get some extra operators taking season ticket inquiries in the marketing dept., Brooks!!!

[thedoctor]

2 hours ago, Tony said:

I just looked at the Sox 40 man because I was/am sure there are plenty of guys you can DFA, and was shocked at how many guys I've straight up never heard of, some that actually got time with the Sox last year. 

Fraser Ellard? 

Prelander Berrora?

Ron Marinaccio? 

Gus Varland? 

Man, it's a rough list lol

I remain convinced that ron marinaccio is a made-up person. 

[Tony]

13 minutes ago, thedoctor said:

I remain convinced that ron marinaccio is a made-up person. 

I’m certainly not going to argue, it’s entirely possible 😂

[thedoctor]

7 minutes ago, Tony said:

I’m certainly not going to argue, it’s entirely possible 😂

I’m blaming ai. 

[Jake]

I think last offseason, Getz was making moves like he was afraid the Sox might find themselves in a situation where they have one too many deserving players for the MLB roster/lineup. This offseason, I don't think he's looking it at that way anymore, which is good. Not to say I think we'll find the Sox with too many good players at any point soon...

[Chicago White Sox]

8 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

I guess I'd rather just roll with the young guys, or sign someone better that might actually have trade value.  Just another guy that best case scenario we're getting someone else's junk.  But at $3.5M + $1.5M buyout, its whatever. 

I’m with you.  I get the “you can never have enough pitching” mantra but we have a ton of young arms on the cusp and aren’t really trying to win next year.  As such, you can always find some AAAA arms to give innings to if guys aren’t ready or in the event of lots of injuries.

[Bob Sacamano]

Idk you need a lot of arms. Plus, if he is respectable, he’ll he dealt sometime in the summer. Plenty of innings for young guys after that. Plus, injuries happy and you really can’t plan for that (unless their names are Yoán, Eloy, Luis haha)

[Chicago White Sox]

6 hours ago, Tony said:

I just looked at the Sox 40 man because I was/am sure there are plenty of guys you can DFA, and was shocked at how many guys I've straight up never heard of, some that actually got time with the Sox last year. 

Fraser Ellard? 

Prelander Berrora?

Ron Marinaccio? 

Gus Varland? 

Man, it's a rough list lol

Prelander Berrora was the main piece we got back in the Gregory Santos traded…he’s a legitimate prospect with tremendous stuff.

[Chicago White Sox]

4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

Not exactly an exciting list, but you probably just listed like 40% of opening day bullpen.  Berroa was a big part of the Santos return, and is actually pretty interesting.  Marinaccio was recently claimed and has a 3.22 big league ERA in over 120 innings; he might be the closer.  Varland was recently claimed too, and was actually pretty good out of the pen end of last season.  I don't care much for Ellard, and he's probably who they cut for Perez, but the org liked him enough to give him 25 big league appearances last season, and was serviceable. 

The point isn't really that these guys are not cuttable, but 3/4 guys you listed are literally guys this regime brought in very recently. 

And they are all guys with options who can be sent to AAA.  The issue with Perez is he automatically eats up a 26 man roster spot and doesn’t offer much flip potential.  I’m not losing sleep over signing him, but he’s definitely not the guy I would spend my limited budget dollars on.

[caulfield12]

He was incredibly important to the Padres getting 4-5 inning starts down the stretch as a fifth or swing man...after they'd traded away almost all their prospect depth for relievers.

I'm just dubious on how much of that success can again be replicated at GR Field with our projected defense minus Luis Robert.

He is LH at least...compared to the RH Flexen, and seems equally comfortable out of the pen or starting.

This year's Jesse Chavez.

Edited 16 hours ago by caulfield12

[BigHurt3515]

Getz seems to be trying to sign the cheapest MLB guys possible

[ron883]

12 hours ago, WestEddy said:

One year, $5M. 

Only 3.5m next year, 1.5m buyout. Honestly, this is a slam dunk move by Getz. 2nd half of the season with the Padres he had a 3.4 ERA with a 1.2 WHIP. He pitched his ass off. Given the salary restrictions by the owner, this is an A move by Getz. 

[caulfield12]

22 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Only 3.5m next year, 1.5m buyout. Honestly, this is a slam dunk move by Getz. 2nd half of the season with the Padres he had a 3.4 ERA with a 1.2 WHIP. He pitched his ass off. Given the salary restrictions by the owner, this is an A move by Getz. 

Three years ago, he was worth a startlingly high 3.9 fWAR, a HUGE bargain.

Of course, his last two seasons, it's 0.5 and 0.4, and four seasons ago, at 0.7, so the average would be around 0.5-0.6 fWAR per season, meaning he's pretty much fairly valued at $3.5 million and entering his age 34 season.

Of course, if you incorporate his 3.9 with the other other three years, you get 5.5/4, or 1.4, which means his fair value would be closer to $10-11 million.

[oldsox]

Sox will likely go with a 14 man pitching staff.

[Boopa1219]

10 hours ago, Jake said:

I think last offseason, Getz was making moves like he was afraid the Sox might find themselves in a situation where they have one too many deserving players for the MLB roster/lineup. This offseason, I don't think he's looking it at that way anymore, which is good. Not to say I think we'll find the Sox with too many good players at any point soon...

Outside of Benintendi and Robert, the Sox are out of the tear down phase of the rebuild. Now it’s all about multiplying assets (flipping guys)

[Chicago White Sox]

So who gets DFAed as a result of this move?  Scholtens is not a good SP, but he has options and there is value in having a guy like that who can be called up on a whim with no concern for their well-being or development.

Murfee and Colas are the two who seem mostly likely to me, although with only 16 positional players on the 40 man now my guess will be Murfee.

[Bob Sacamano]

19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

So who gets DFAed as a result of this move?  Scholtens is not a good SP, but he has options and there is value in having a guy like that who can be called up on a whim with no concern for their well-being or development.

Murfee and Colas are the two who seem mostly likely to me, although with only 16 positional players on the 40 man now my guess will be Murfee.

I was kind of leaning Scholtens but he will still probably miss some time at the beginning of the season to the point he will prob be a 60-day IL guy (meaning, you can open a 40-man spot at the start of Spring Training).

I'm going to guess Murfee as well.

[southsider2k5]

20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

So who gets DFAed as a result of this move?  Scholtens is not a good SP, but he has options and there is value in having a guy like that who can be called up on a whim with no concern for their well-being or development.

Murfee and Colas are the two who seem mostly likely to me, although with only 16 positional players on the 40 man now my guess will be Murfee.

It almost has to be a P.  Going to guess it's a DFA pick up we made earlier as we try to wash them through waivers 

[Bob Sacamano]

6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It almost has to be a P.  Going to guess it's a DFA pick up we made earlier as we try to wash them through waivers 

Yeah, I would prioritize DFAing 20s/early 30s group and hold onto the younger guys: Scholtens, Justin Anderson, Marinaccio, Murfee, Varland.

Don't think it'll be Steven Wilson even though he could be in that group.

[ChiSox59]

42 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

So who gets DFAed as a result of this move?  Scholtens is not a good SP, but he has options and there is value in having a guy like that who can be called up on a whim with no concern for their well-being or development.

Murfee and Colas are the two who seem mostly likely to me, although with only 16 positional players on the 40 man now my guess will be Murfee.

Murfee or Ellard is my guess.  I don't think they cut Colas just yet (maybe that is just a hope).