Vaughn and Sox avoid arbitration: $5.85 million

[chitownsportsfan]

I don't care if he was getting paid a dollar. He's not worth a single fucking cent to this team. Maybe he has value as the wrong side of a platoon on a team that is so loaded they can carry a RH DH on the occasional need for a pinch hitter.

The amount of money this sad sack team has spent on worthless players when they could have spent the same on fewer actual good players is mind boggling.

No matter how many times they get burnt, they just keep on doing the same.

[poppysox]

2 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Wow!!!  What a relief.

[Jerksticks]

3 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

So, we’re up to $14.35M between Rojas, Vaughn, and Perez. That’s about one year of Ha-Seong Kim. Personally, I’d rather have Kim than those three and give Vargas/Elko a look at 1b.

The goal is $30M for 0 or less WAR.  

[Tony]

I will go to the grave believing if Andrew Vaughn was drafted and developed by a better organization, he's a totally different, and better MLB hitter than he is today. What a waste. 

[southsider2k5]

17 minutes ago, Tony said:

I will go to the grave believing if Andrew Vaughn was drafted and developed by a better organization, he's a totally different, and better MLB hitter than he is today. What a waste. 

And he is far from alone.  It is amazing how little we have gotten out of our player development, especially in our high offensive picks.  Andrew Vaughn was a consensus top 5 pick.

[chitownsportsfan]

20 minutes ago, Tony said:

I will go to the grave believing if Andrew Vaughn was drafted and developed by a better organization, he's a totally different, and better MLB hitter than he is today. What a waste. 

I wouldn't quite go that far but if you look at his swing from when he came in to what it was most of last year it's like what the f*** did they have this guy working on. Not only did they manage to introduce a looping load mechanism they also altered his approach it appears so that he never, ever really goes into an AB looking to pull first pitch fastball and hit it hard.

It's like they tried to turn him into a different profile hitter. Obviously the player bares a lot of the blame as well but our coaching sucks and guys regress all the time.

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, Tnetennba said:

This might be his biggest payday. Hope he's saving his pennies. 1B with below average D and warning track power aren't in high demand.

Ageless Carlos Santana, $12 million for the cash-strapped Guardians...

[caulfield12]

15 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I wouldn't quite go that far but if you look at his swing from when he came in to what it was most of last year it's like what the f*** did they have this guy working on. Not only did they manage to introduce a looping load mechanism they also altered his approach it appears so that he never, ever really goes into an AB looking to pull first pitch fastball and hit it hard.

It's like they tried to turn him into a different profile hitter. Obviously the player bares a lot of the blame as well but our coaching sucks and guys regress all the time.

If not for Torkelson...he would have faced even more criticism, seemingly.

Seems one of the most popular criticisms has been the lack of competition in the Pac-12 compared to say the SEC...and feasting on the subpar/non weekend pitchers for the most part.  And then he went from a disciplined NCAA walk machine to a chaser/guess hitter with a lot of the same characteristics as Luis Robert.

Edited 7 hours ago by caulfield12

[PaleAleSox]

Maybe he would have been better, but a high possibility he wouldn’t be. Guys are busts far more often than not. 

[caulfield12]

5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Maybe he would have been better, but a high possibility he wouldn’t be. Guys are busts far more often than not. 

What did Ozzie call that one young Brewers/Indians' 1B/DH, LaFatta?

[Chicago White Sox]

5 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

So, we’re up to $14.35M between Rojas, Vaughn, and Perez. That’s about one year of Ha-Seong Kim. Personally, I’d rather have Kim than those three and give Vargas/Elko a look at 1b.

Yeah, that $14M could be put to better use.  Unfortunately, Getz believes the 5th time will be the charm in terms of Vaughn figuring out how to hit major league pitching.

[Chicago White Sox]

2 hours ago, Tony said:

I will go to the grave believing if Andrew Vaughn was drafted and developed by a better organization, he's a totally different, and better MLB hitter than he is today. What a waste. 

Skipping the entire upper minors and then being forced to play a position you never played before may be a poor developmental strategy.

[southsider2k5]

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Skipping the entire upper minors and then being forced to play a position you never played before may be a poor developmental strategy.

This part alone even.

[Baron]

I know it was wishful thinking but I was hoping they would cut their losses this offseason with him. Guess we'll just have to live in misery watching him at 1st base. 

[Balta1701]

Is this contract still voidable?

[Ducksnort]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Skipping the entire upper minors and then being forced to play a position you never played before may be a poor developmental strategy.

putting him in rf was so stupid

[caulfield12]

5 minutes ago, Ducksnort said:

putting him in rf was so stupid

Sheets?

Vaughn actually started in LF in his outfield conversion...where he was "mediocre" but at least passable (obviously zero range), then gradually got worse and worse, especially in RF.

[Chicago White Sox]

4 minutes ago, Ducksnort said:

putting him in rf was so stupid

Yes it was.  So was playing Sheets out there.  Crazy that they went all in on the “let’s play our 1B in the OF” strategy.

[greg775]

You could make a helluva exciting highlight film with several of Vaughn's at bats. "Sometimes" he whacks beautiful doubles in the gap. Sometimes he actually puts together a few good games in a row. ... But to me most of the time he looks so pained at the plate. Like he's nervous or something. This has to be it for him. Is he a fine hitter or not? If he has another mediocre season he's probably shown the door.

[Timmy U]

3 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

Is this contract still voidable?

No.

[kitekrazy]

7 hours ago, Tony said:

I will go to the grave believing if Andrew Vaughn was drafted and developed by a better organization, he's a totally different, and better MLB hitter than he is today. What a waste. 

Not a fan of drafting a 1B not named Frank Thomas.

Vaughn has no speed to play another position for swipe a base.  It's the typical KW pick hoping offense will ignore the other weaknesses.

Here's hoping Getz will make better picks instead of picks from other farm systems.