Chris Getz on the REKAP podcast

[Soxfest]

4 hours ago, WestEddy said:

At the 45 minute mark - he talks about not spending right now, basically about being on the right point of the win curve before you splurge. 

This has been said by Sox GM’s forever and NEVER happens.

[Lip Man 1]

41 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said:

Thats exactly what a team in their position should be doing. They’re not trying to win, they’re not at the point yet. The best case scenario for the Sox this season is that they end up with the first overall pick in the draft. 

I agree. I never wrote that they should be doing it NOW, just that as long as JR is the owner it simply...will...not...happen regardless of Getz's comment about spending.

The proof is in the pudding as the saying goes, they had chances a few years ago to really try to push the rebuild into a much better situation.

What did they do? (crickets chirping)

Exactly.

Talk is cheap and historically under JR all that ever happens is the proverbial "seat at the table..." Then the excuses start being made public.

"The money will be spent..."--Rick Hahn. 😆 Sure...wasted on stiffs, retreads, has-been's and injury prone guys.

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Lip Man 1

[greg775]

I tried but had to turn off the podcast a few minutes in. That co host on the left ... loves to hear himself talk. His questions are way too long and he's acting like he knows everything. I couldn't take his long speeches culminating in a question. Geez, just get a huge list of questions and let the GM talk and explain this mess of a 41-win team.

[Kyyle23]

13 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Grandal is treated like a punchline here, but the stat-head, framing nerds loved him. That was a big signing when it happened. 

He was still not the big move.  Bigger than normal but not the big move

[Kyyle23]

10 hours ago, Boopa1219 said:

Thats exactly what a team in their position should be doing. They’re not trying to win, they’re not at the point yet. The best case scenario for the Sox this season is that they end up with the first overall pick in the draft. 

We all know Lucy pulls the football.  Is what it is.  Some of us just choose to laugh at the “we will spend when we are close to contend” dangling carrot

[Harold's Leg Lift]

9 hours ago, greg775 said:

I tried but had to turn off the podcast a few minutes in. That co host on the left ... loves to hear himself talk. His questions are way too long and he's acting like he knows everything. I couldn't take his long speeches culminating in a question. Geez, just get a huge list of questions and let the GM talk and explain this mess of a 41-win team.

I couldn't watch it either.  That guys an idiot.

[WhiteSox2023]

11 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

You'd honestly have to be a complete dunce to think there's any justification for the level of spending taking place right now. 

The Sox have already proven once they won't save and splurge later. 

But Getz said he expects to sign someone to a $100 million dollar deal in the near future!

Is it still 2010?  🤣

Edited 7 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[WhiteSox2023]

11 hours ago, Soxfest said:

This has been said by Sox GM’s forever and NEVER happens.

The White Sox ultimate cock tease.

[Bob Sacamano]

1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

He was still not the big move.  Bigger than normal but not the big move

Right, they like spending more in the depressed markets of "stars." Closers, where they only really touch 9-figures (and the more recent big closers) if it's 5+ more years of a contract and guys on the wrong side of 30.

Edited 6 hours ago by Bob Sacamano

[southsider2k5]

10 hours ago, greg775 said:

I tried but had to turn off the podcast a few minutes in. That co host on the left ... loves to hear himself talk. His questions are way too long and he's acting like he knows everything. I couldn't take his long speeches culminating in a question. Geez, just get a huge list of questions and let the GM talk and explain this mess of a 41-win team.

They have done it by water carrying proxies.  It is everyone else's fault, but Chris.  He is the only one who knew what he was doing and he is here to save everyone.

[WhiteSox2023]

7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

They have done it by water carrying proxies.  It is everyone else's fault, but Chris.  He is the only one who knew what he was doing and he is here to save everyone.

His joke about having an R&D department with 15 employees with actual computers was pretty cringy lol.

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

22 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

But Getz said he expects to sign someone to a $100 million dollar deal in the near future!

Is it still 2010?  🤣

People applauding this too are amazing... Everyone signs players to 100 million now but for the Sox. We should be signing 200+ million dollar deals by now.

[GREEDY]

 Jerry sure has a type, affable yes-men who have a masters degree in placating. 

My least favorite part of the interview was Chris sidestepping why he brought back the assistant coaches (who all just so happened to be under contract) IMMEDIATELY after he took a freaking victory lap on cleaning house and changing some processes.  Props to Guff for asking, wish he would have followed back up on it.  

I appreciated Getz's candor about the Crochet stuff.  Really wish he would have outlined how the org bent over for him at seemingly every step of the way prior to that trade deadline.  

As a face of the front office, Getz is fine.   Just wish he was the frontman for a real President or GM, not just Jerry's errand boy.  

 

Edited 6 hours ago by GREEDY

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

People applauding this too are amazing... Everyone signs players to 100 million now but for the Sox. We should be signing 200+ million dollar deals by now.

To be fair, the question he was asked was about signing a “$100M free agent”, Getz didn’t offer it up and imply some sort of cap.

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, GREEDY said:

 Jerry sure has a type, affable yes-men who have a masters degree in placating. 

My least favorite part of the interview was Chris sidestepping why he brought back the assistant coaches (who all just so happened to be under contract) IMMEDIATELY after he took a freaking victory lap on cleaning house and changing some processes.  Props to Guff for asking, wish he would have followed back up on it.  

I appreciated Getz's candor about the Crochet stuff.  Really wish he would have outlined how the org bent over for him at seemingly every step of the way prior to that trade deadline.  

As a face of the front office, Getz is fine.   Just wish he was the frontman for a real President or GM, not just Jerry's errand boy.  

 

I will say that at least Getz is trying to make real changes and break up the insular nature of the org.  He may ultimately fail in that regard, but bringing in new voices and ideas was a must for whoever was taking over.

[WhiteSox2023]

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

To be fair, the question he was asked was about signing a “$100M free agent”, Getz didn’t offer it up and imply some sort of cap.

The Sox have to crawl before they walk.  There’s not a doubt in my mind that the Sox won’t be signing a $200+ million dollar contract before they sign a $100+ million dollar contract.  I don’t need Getz to explicitly say it to know that’s what will eventually happen.

[Chicago White Sox]

14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Sox have to crawl before they walk.  There’s not a doubt in my mind that the Sox won’t be signing a $200+ million dollar contract before they sign a $100+ million dollar contract.  I don’t need Getz to explicitly say it to know that’s what will eventually happen.

That’s probably true, but my point was Getz wasn’t trying to brag like signing a $100M free agent is a big thing.  I would be more concerned if he thought it was.

[GREEDY]

39 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I will say that at least Getz is trying to make real changes and break up the insular nature of the org.  He may ultimately fail in that regard, but bringing in new voices and ideas was a must for whoever was taking over.

If bringing in "new voices was a must" why did Getz sign off on bringing back the pitching coach, hitting coach, base coaches and Grady from the worst team in the history of baseball?  

Jerry wasn't going to pay two people to do one job, so we don't get fresh start over what???  Less than 3 million?  

I'm not sure another organization in professional sports would have retained essentially the entire coaching staff after 2024.  

[TaylorStSox]

2 hours ago, GREEDY said:

 Jerry sure has a type, affable yes-men who have a masters degree in placating. 

My least favorite part of the interview was Chris sidestepping why he brought back the assistant coaches (who all just so happened to be under contract) IMMEDIATELY after he took a freaking victory lap on cleaning house and changing some processes.  Props to Guff for asking, wish he would have followed back up on it.  

I appreciated Getz's candor about the Crochet stuff.  Really wish he would have outlined how the org bent over for him at seemingly every step of the way prior to that trade deadline.  

As a face of the front office, Getz is fine.   Just wish he was the frontman for a real President or GM, not just Jerry's errand boy.  

 

He didn't sidestep the question at all. He said he values continuity, Bannister and Katz are kind of a package deal and that he thinks MLB has it wrong with the high turnover of hitting coaches. He did the opposite of sidestepping. 

[Chicago White Sox]

21 minutes ago, GREEDY said:

If bringing in "new voices was a must" why did Getz sign off on bringing back the pitching coach, hitting coach, base coaches and Grady from the worst team in the history of baseball?  

Jerry wasn't going to pay two people to do one job, so we don't get fresh start over what???  Less than 3 million?  

I'm not sure another organization in professional sports would have retained essentially the entire coaching staff after 2024.  

Pretty sure Francona’s staff in Cincinnati includes a ton of holdovers.  I’m not sure it’s all that crazy to think a first time manager doesn’t have a big enough network that includes a bunch of qualified dudes out of work looking for a job.  And in modern baseball, the pitching coaches and hitting coaches are in some ways extension of the specialists in the front office like Bannister & Fuller.  And my last point would be a lot of those holdovers came in last year from other organizations.  The White Sox lifers from last year were actually replaced.

[WestEddy]

26 minutes ago, GREEDY said:

If bringing in "new voices was a must" why did Getz sign off on bringing back the pitching coach, hitting coach, base coaches and Grady from the worst team in the history of baseball?  

Jerry wasn't going to pay two people to do one job, so we don't get fresh start over what???  Less than 3 million?  

I'm not sure another organization in professional sports would have retained essentially the entire coaching staff after 2024.  

He explained that pretty thoroughly. Sometimes, the problem isn't the line of coaches a team chews through, it's the fundamental approach of the team. It's not so black and white as, "the team didn't hit, the coach must have turned stupid". If coaches are so interchangeable, then maybe shoring up communication between departments, and targeting the use of analytics could be the problem, regardless of who the coach is. 

[Kyyle23]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I will say that at least Getz is trying to make real changes and break up the insular nature of the org.  He may ultimately fail in that regard, but bringing in new voices and ideas was a must for whoever was taking over.

I get that we are trying to see the better side of everything right now because everything else is actual s%*#, but Hahn said the same stuff in 2016.  

[Bob Sacamano]

6 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I get that we are trying to see the better side of everything right now because everything else is actual s%*#, but Hahn said the same stuff in 2016.  

Yep. Need to see results before buying too much into it.

[TaylorStSox]

17 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I get that we are trying to see the better side of everything right now because everything else is actual s%*#, but Hahn said the same stuff in 2016.  

This is such a terrible outlook on pretty much everything in life. 

[southsider2k5]

5 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:

This is such a terrible outlook on pretty much everything in life. 

I believe them because they told me so, but forget about the same business lying to me for the last 40 years, but now it's different is a way better outlook on life.