Kyyle23 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 16 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: This is such a terrible outlook on pretty much everything in life. I will worry about it when I start taking life advice from you 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Side note absolutely hilarious that this life advice given to me in this thread basically comes down to trusting JR and this front office to do the right thing. Don’t worry buddies, haven’t seen this before. LOL. LMAO, even 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 16 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I believe them because they told me so, but forget about the same business lying to me for the last 40 years, but now it's different is a way better outlook on life. The only thing to believe is whether you think Getz process is sound. Both his process and philosophy are very sound imo. Whether that results in wins down the road has yet to be seen, but being strictly results driven is generally bad business. Also, blaming Getz for Ken Williams and Rick Hahn is just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: The only thing to believe is whether you think Getz process is sound. Both his process and philosophy are very sound imo. Whether that results in wins down the road has yet to be seen, but being strictly results driven is generally bad business. Also, blaming Getz for Ken Williams and Rick Hahn is just silly. And outside people seem to be speaking well of what Getz is doing. I don't really remember too many people praising Hahn. KW was kind of made out as a dupe in Moneyball, and an intolerable a-hole in other reporting about his dealings with players. Hahn didn't get much separation from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I listened to the whole podcast. I'm not sure what to think because I am annoyed every time I listen to Getz talk. I appreciate McGuffy and Kaplan for having him there and asking certain questions, However the questioning did not really drill down to the level that I needed to hear. There was too much positive vibes about Getz and what he's doing with his process from McGuffy and Kaplan. By GOD we just lost a 121 games. This man was responsible for putting the white sox fans through that. There was a conversation about the have's (Dodgers, Yankees, others) and the have nots. No one reminded Getz that we live in Chicago, the 3rd largest market in the country when he started to make the White Sox seam like a small market team in his responses. WE LOST 121 GAMES AND HAD TO LIVE THROUGH THAT!!! I don't want to hear fluff questions for Getz. He has done nothing to earn any good graces yet. That includes the trades he's made, the FA's he signed. I understand he's overhauling the organization by bringing in outside people (am I suppose to applaud him for that?) because as of now there is no proof any of that has changed anything. The interview was too much a pro Getz interview. He does not deserve that leeway right now. Just my 2 cents.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, 2Deep said: I listened to the whole podcast. I'm not sure what to think because I am annoyed every time I listen to Getz talk. I appreciate McGuffy and Kaplan for having him there and asking certain questions, However the questioning did not really drill down to the level that I needed to hear. There was too much positive vibes about Getz and what he's doing with his process from McGuffy and Kaplan. By GOD we just lost a 121 games. This man was responsible for putting the white sox fans through that. There was a conversation about the have's (Dodgers, Yankees, others) and the have nots. No one reminded Getz that we live in Chicago, the 3rd largest market in the country when he started to make the White Sox seam like a small market team in his responses. WE LOST 121 GAMES AND HAD TO LIVE THROUGH THAT!!! I don't want to hear fluff questions for Getz. He has done nothing to earn any good graces yet. That includes the trades he's made, the FA's he signed. I understand he's overhauling the organization by bringing in outside people (am I suppose to applaud him for that?) because as of now there is no proof any of that has changed anything. The interview was too much a pro Getz interview. He does not deserve that leeway right now. Just my 2 cents.... Do you think he (or anyone) would volunteer to go on a podcast that would try and destroy him? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Side note absolutely hilarious that this life advice given to me in this thread basically comes down to trusting JR and this front office to do the right thing. Don’t worry buddies, haven’t seen this before. LOL. LMAO, even Don't be so insecure. I'm not giving you advice. I gave you an opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Do you think he (or anyone) would volunteer to go on a podcast that would try and destroy him? I get that aspect. I'm just sharing my thoughts and frustrations and I know there are many like me who feel the same way. I mean if we're going to do a Fluff piece then why even have him on it? Doesn't really serve any purpose for us to listen to him gush and blabber about his process after losing 121 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Don't be so insecure. I'm not giving you advice. I gave you an opinion. Ok, so your opinion is that being skeptical of people who have previously hurt you is a terrible outlook on life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: But Getz said he expects to sign someone to a $100 million dollar deal in the near future! Is it still 2010? 🤣 Just wait until next offseason when Getz signs Vlad to a 1 year, $100 million deal. Won't be so funny then, will it?* *Yes, yes it absolutely would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 59 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: The only thing to believe is whether you think Getz process is sound. Both his process and philosophy are very sound imo. Whether that results in wins down the road has yet to be seen, but being strictly results driven is generally bad business. Also, blaming Getz for Ken Williams and Rick Hahn is just silly. We know. You keep flexing on everyone who doesn't agree. Getz is the only person in the organization who knew what he was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Do you think he (or anyone) would volunteer to go on a podcast that would try and destroy him? Sox personnel don't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Quin said: Ok, so your opinion is that being skeptical of people who have previously hurt you is a terrible outlook on life? Decade after decade after decade of being lied to, but a guy who has been with this group forever himself is saying it is different, so it's different. That's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, 2Deep said: I get that aspect. I'm just sharing my thoughts and frustrations and I know there are many like me who feel the same way. I mean if we're going to do a Fluff piece then why even have him on it? Doesn't really serve any purpose for us to listen to him gush and blabber about his process after losing 121 games. That's the whole point. Then all of the water carriers have another reason to proclaim his genius to all of us heathens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Quin said: Ok, so your opinion is that being skeptical of people who have previously hurt you is a terrible outlook on life? Getz has done nothing wrong. He hasn't "hurt" anyone. I'm open to listening to his vision. He clearly has a well developed plan and I appreciate his transparency. He seems like the type of guy you want in your organization. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Decade after decade after decade of being lied to, but a guy who has been with this group forever himself is saying it is different, so it's different. That's it. Nobody lied to you. God, this is dramatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Nobody lied to you. God, this is dramatic. 1 hour ago, TaylorStSox said: This is such a terrible outlook on pretty much everything in life. This is a pretty dramatic take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Nobody lied to you. God, this is dramatic. Jerry, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 13 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Nobody lied to you. God, this is dramatic. The gullability is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I have only listened to half of it so far, and I usually try to be more opitmistic than other posters on this forum, and I generally defend Getz (What could/ can he do with Jerry stuff?). But what I've heard so far is just general cooperate level "stay the course" and "it's gonna take time" stuff. We've heard it all before FROM HIM over and over. I know he wouldn't go on a podcast to get destroyed, but I really felt both questioners were really throwing him softball questions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The gullability is impressive. Some of us understand processes are more important than outcomes. Outcomes are are the result of processes. We're privy to Getz organizational processes and they've been excellent. He's completely overhauling the organization and it's going to take some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 40 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Don't be so insecure. I'm not giving you advice. I gave you an opinion. Yes I’m so insecure because you get mad at the entire board for having an opinion that doesn’t match yours about the Sox outlook. Yep sounds right on point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Nobody lied to you. God, this is dramatic. Please don’t be so insecure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Some of us understand processes are more important than outcomes. Outcomes are are the result of processes. We're privy to Getz organizational processes and they've been excellent. He's completely overhauling the organization and it's going to take some time. It is you, the Big understander. I now get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Some of us understand processes are more important than outcomes. Outcomes are are the result of processes. We're privy to Getz organizational processes and they've been excellent. He's completely overhauling the organization and it's going to take some time. so Chris gave you a nice pat on the head and now you believe. Good lord the arrogance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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