caulfield12 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) along with Montgomery and Baldwin. https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-have-high-hopes-for-colson-montgomery-in-2025 Why why why sign Rojas...then immediately move him away from the two positions where he's most comfortable? Meidroth already has questions about his 2B defense and then you move to an even more demanding position? https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/293269/ Meidroth did play some SS in the IL last year but far from his ideal position. https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/200222/ Rojas last played SS in 2021. Edited January 24 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It’s just a goofy GM rambling to show off all his new player acquisitions. He is also making up smoke to preemptively defend his decision to hold Montgomery down a few weeks to ensure the extra year of control. Also, I doubt Meidroth will play SS instead of 2B when he is eventually called up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It's probably to create some competition. I wouldn't think anything of it. I honestly really, really hope the Sox don't jump the gun on Montgomery's service time clock. Keep the kid down until he is actually ready. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 4:03 AM, CWSpalehoseCWS said: It's probably to create some competition. I wouldn't think anything of it. I honestly really, really hope the Sox don't jump the gun on Montgomery's service time clock. Keep the kid down until he is actually ready. Expand Rojas is the most likely guess until Montgomery is ready in May/June or Baldwin flat out plays him. That also buys MLB time/at-bats for Vargas Sosa and maybe Meidroth at 3B and 2B...so Ramos to the minors, with Montgomery at SS for now at Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) On 1/24/2025 at 2:54 AM, caulfield12 said: along with Montgomery and Baldwin. https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-have-high-hopes-for-colson-montgomery-in-2025 Why why why sign Rojas...then immediately move him away from the two positions where he's most comfortable? Meidroth already has questions about his 2B defense and then you move to an even more demanding position? https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/293269/ Meidroth did play some SS in the IL last year but far from his ideal position. https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/200222/ Rojas last played SS in 2021. Expand Who says Rojas is being moved? He's mentioned in your article as "a possibility". And you do realize that Connor Meidroth is a different person from Chase Meidroth, right? You link to the former's TBC page. Edited January 24 by WestEddy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 (edited) On 1/24/2025 at 4:33 AM, WestEddy said: Who says Ramos is being moved? He's mentioned in your article as "a possibility". And you do realize that Connor Meidroth is a different person from Chase Meidroth, right? You link to the former's TBC page. Expand Rojas…not Ramos, former Mariners 2B-3B. Although lots want to put RAMOS at second, 1B, DH or corner OF, specifically RF. https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/226273/ Meidroth has rarely played SS, but did play some in the International League, AAA, this season. Edited January 24 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Meidroth played more at SS than 2b with red sox org not sure I would consider that a change of position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) On 1/24/2025 at 5:12 AM, caulfield12 said: Rojas…not Ramos, former Mariners 2B-3B. Although lots want to put RAMOS at second, 1B, DH or corner OF, specifically RF. Expand Oh, I mix their names up. Changed it. Nobody's saying that Rojas is being moved either, so dry your tears, little one. Yeah, most baseball players change positions and are sometimes moved to a position that's open. That happens a lot in baseball. I guess you can high-five somebody about your victory in seeing that. You have a link to the wrong ball player under your mention of Meidroth. Edited January 24 by WestEddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Is it just me or is Meidroth a strange looking fellow. My first thought when i saw him was Brian Peppers and I haven’t thought of that unfortunate sod for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 6:04 AM, 46DidIt said: Is it just me or is Meidroth a strange looking fellow. My first thought when i saw him was Brian Peppers and I haven’t thought of that unfortunate sod for years Expand lol Brian Peppers, that really takes me back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I don't understand. Why didn't they just target someone who could play SS in a reserve role over Rojas, who is below average defensively at SS? Since people think Meidroth is likely to make the team, I wouldn't mind him starting at SS with Sosa at 2B. Baldwin probably starts at 2B in AAA in that scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 3:56 PM, Bob Sacamano said: I don't understand. Why didn't they just target someone who could play SS in a reserve role over Rojas, who is below average defensively at SS? Since people think Meidroth is likely to make the team, I wouldn't mind him starting at SS with Sosa at 2B. Baldwin probably starts at 2B in AAA in that scenario. Expand SSs are more expensive than 2Bs. Look, I am OK with a cheap and disposable guy. The most important thing Rojas can do this year is fill ABs needed, and then GTFOH when a player in the system actually needs those ABs. If at any time he blocks someone, he should be cut. If no one is ready for SS that is one thing, but realistically if some of these other guys show they belong on the opening day roster, play them over Rojas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 3:58 PM, southsider2k5 said: SSs are more expensive than 2Bs. Expand Amed Rosario signed for $2 million. Kevin Newman signed for $2.75 million. Kyle Farmer signed for $3.25 million. Jon Berti signed for $2 million. Jose Iglesias is still available. All of them have at least some experience playing SS in the past 2 years, some of them have been as good as average defensively (Newman's numbers actually caught my eye as a "Why didn't we spend $3 million on this guy). Just like Rojas, none of them should be starters on a big league team, but all could work for a couple months alongside Meidroth as tolerable fielders. They paid at least a $250k premium for Rojas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 3:18 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: It’s just a goofy GM rambling to show off all his new player acquisitions. He is also making up smoke to preemptively defend his decision to hold Montgomery down a few weeks to ensure the extra year of control. Also, I doubt Meidroth will play SS instead of 2B when he is eventually called up. Expand This sounds like you think that is a bad thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 4:04 PM, Balta1701 said: Amed Rosario signed for $2 million. Kevin Newman signed for $2.75 million. Kyle Farmer signed for $3.25 million. Jon Berti signed for $2 million. Jose Iglesias is still available. All of them have at least some experience playing SS in the past 2 years, some of them have been as good as average defensively (Newman's numbers actually caught my eye as a "Why didn't we spend $3 million on this guy). Just like Rojas, none of them should be starters on a big league team, but all could work for a couple months alongside Meidroth as tolerable fielders. They paid at least a $250k premium for Rojas. Expand If you are trying to convince me that Chris Getz made a wrong move, that is an awful waste of characters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 4:29 PM, PaleAleSox said: This sounds like you think that is a bad thing. Expand No, I didn’t say that. I agree with it. He probably doesn’t need to even bother doing it honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I think it’s Baldwin and Meidroth as SS until Montgomery is called up. Rojas was signed for his ability to cover multiple positions in IF and OF, not to cover SS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 3:58 PM, southsider2k5 said: SSs are more expensive than 2Bs. Look, I am OK with a cheap and disposable guy. The most important thing Rojas can do this year is fill ABs needed, and then GTFOH when a player in the system actually needs those ABs. If at any time he blocks someone, he should be cut. If no one is ready for SS that is one thing, but realistically if some of these other guys show they belong on the opening day roster, play them over Rojas. Expand If Sox have enough players producing in order to cover 2b/3b/SS, and three non-catcher bench spots at the same time in order to bump Rojas from the roster, I will be amazed. If any of our crappy set of Ofers go down, he could be playing everyday in RF at some point for all we know. It would basically be everything going right with unestablished players and everyone else remaining healthy to have no room for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 if I was a degenerate, I would bet all the money I have (about 200 bucks) on Colson being the opening day SS. He just will be. It isn't for baseball reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 10:04 PM, 46DidIt said: If Sox have enough players producing in order to cover 2b/3b/SS, and three non-catcher bench spots at the same time in order to bump Rojas from the roster, I will be amazed. If any of our crappy set of Ofers go down, he could be playing everyday in RF at some point for all we know. It would basically be everything going right with unestablished players and everyone else remaining healthy to have no room for him Expand It's not room for Rojas I'm worried about. It's room for the guy who comes up and struggles for the first few months, then breaks out or even becomes a cheap, serviceable backup once he goes to another team after his opportunity was blocked for a veteran in Chicago. On 1/24/2025 at 9:51 PM, 46DidIt said: I think it’s Baldwin and Meidroth as SS until Montgomery is called up. Rojas was signed for his ability to cover multiple positions in IF and OF, not to cover SS Expand This is the ongoing problem with this signing - with Montgomery's status and performance unknown, shortstop is the position in the infield where the White Sox have the highest chance of needing a warm body. 2b and 3b have 3 different guys who could be playing there on opening day. Shortstop maybe has Baldwin? So they signed a guy who hasn't played shortstop since 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 10:33 PM, Balta1701 said: It's not room for Rojas I'm worried about. It's room for the guy who comes up and struggles for the first few months, then breaks out or even becomes a cheap, serviceable backup once he goes to another team after his opportunity was blocked for a veteran in Chicago. Expand ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/24/2025 at 10:33 PM, Balta1701 said: Shortstop maybe has Baldwin? Expand You missed Meidroth in the title ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 1:08 AM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: You missed Meidroth in the title ? Expand The good news is that no one with the White Sox has recently had any difficulties with being moved to a more challenging position to fill an arbitrarily created big league hole. By the way man are you ok? From the fire? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/24/2025 at 10:07 PM, nrockway said: if I was a degenerate, I would bet all the money I have (about 200 bucks) on Colson being the opening day SS. He just will be. It isn't for baseball reasons. Expand I'm assuming you think he's the shiny toy best suited to make Getz look good as your no baseball reason ? I would take you up on that bet for baseball reasons. Getz has nothing to gain by Colson being the Opening Day SS. That's a 1 day thing. Now if Colson becomes a future All Star having control of him for an extra year is more valuable to the Sox . Another baseball reason would be Chase Meidroth was named by Baseball America as the AAA All Star SS. If the opposing OD pitcher is RH Meidroth did especially well against RHP in 2024 in AAA with a .304 .457 .430 slash line the simple math says that's an .887 OPS. Meidroth had a much better AAA season than Montgomery did. Montgomery needs to prove he's MLB ready by producing at AAA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) On 1/25/2025 at 1:23 AM, Balta1701 said: The good news is that no one with the White Sox has recently had any difficulties with being moved to a more challenging position to fill an arbitrarily created big league hole. By the way man are you ok? From the fire? Expand Yes I'm fine. I moved out of Altadena where I lived for 15 years, 7 years ago to Pasadena maybe 3 miles away from the fires in Altadena. I knew people whose houses burned down as did my old Apt. building , my old job site and the grocery store I still shopped at. Thank you for asking. On the baseball side I'm not worried that Rojas will see more time at SS than anyone. Anyone of 5 guys if you dare to count Sosa among the shortstops could be the OD SS . Who gets the bulk of time at SS is anyone's guess . Meidroth seems the most ready but is not a true SS but neither is anyone else they have. While you accuse the Sox you're the one who omitted Meidroth from your SS candidates and it was the Sox who in the press conference included him. Edited January 25 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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