2Deep Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 How does this team win more games then last year? They have no one that can hit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 2:08 AM, Balta1701 said: THat's how it would go, but you also can't use him as the backup on a given day. That also means you better have someone on your roster who can cover all 4 infield positions, because any of those guys could get hurt - including shortstop. Someone, whether it's on of the RFs or the catcher, would need to be the primary backup 1b, and I'm not sure who the backup shortstop is. Most likely they'll "Kluge" it and pretend that they have a backup SS when they're talking about Sosa or Rojas, but neither of those is close to idea. The obvious result is trading Robert, but if that's not done, it sorta makes a mess of the infield. Expand I think they will have someone who can cover. Backup C, 2 OFs (Taylor/platoon) and an IF who can play all 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 2:22 AM, Bob Sacamano said: I think they will have someone who can cover. Backup C, 2 OFs (Taylor/platoon) and an IF who can play all 4. Expand Amaya Rojas and Baldwin are the most well-suited, but not sure why you'd do that with Baldwin (when he basically skipped over AAA) unless he was going to get regular at-bats somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) On 2/12/2025 at 2:29 AM, caulfield12 said: Amaya Rojas and Baldwin are the most well-suited, but not sure why you'd do that with Baldwin (when he basically skipped over AAA) unless he was going to get regular at-bats somehow. Expand I would go Baldwin at SS, Rojas at 3B against RHP, Vargas at DH against RHP/at 3B against LHP, Slater and Taylor in the OF against LHP, Tauchman and Benintendi in OF against RHP/AB moves to DH against LHP. Edited February 12 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 2:31 AM, Bob Sacamano said: I would go Baldwin at SS, Rojas at 3B against RHP, Vargas at DH against RHP/at 3B against LHP, Slater and Taylor in the OF against LHP, Tauchman and Benintendi in OF against RHP/AB moves to DH against LHP. Expand Vargas is "versatile," the problem is that he's not really good at 3B, 2B, LF or theoretically SS...although I wouldn't even want to see that play out, it would be like Madrigal there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/11/2025 at 11:28 PM, Dick Allen said: Had a solid .253 OBP last season, and is entering his ge 34 season, so you expect him to only get better. Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 2:35 AM, caulfield12 said: Vargas is "versatile," the problem is that he's not really good at 3B, 2B, LF or theoretically SS...although I wouldn't even want to see that play out, it would be like Madrigal there. Expand That’s why I stuck him at just 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I can't believe we lied to Slater about being are premier #1 priority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I absolutely loathe the Sox offseason. It makes no fucking sense. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 3:10 AM, ChiSox59 said: I absolutely loathe the Sox offseason. It makes no fucking sense. Expand Agreed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 3:10 AM, ChiSox59 said: I absolutely loathe the Sox offseason. It makes no fucking sense. Expand Sure it does, they have no idea what they’re doing. When you view it through the lens that the entire organization is clueless…it makes sense 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) On 2/12/2025 at 3:10 AM, ChiSox59 said: I absolutely loathe the Sox offseason. It makes no fucking sense. Expand On 2/12/2025 at 3:19 AM, Bob Sacamano said: Agreed Expand On 2/12/2025 at 3:28 AM, fathom said: Sure it does, they have no idea what they’re doing. When you view it through the lens that the entire organization is clueless…it makes sense Expand Truer words have never been spoken. It makes zero sense, but the Sox are gonna Sox. Signing washed up vets last offseason worked so well to the tune of 121 losses and not giving young players enough at bats as a result. So let’s employ that strategy again this offseason! And you just know Drury is making the team as well. There quite simply is no fucking plan here. Edited February 12 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Well, up until last year, he averaged a 2.0 fWAR for 2021-22-23, so there's that. His 0.4 is beaten by only Robert's on last year's team, pretty sure Luis was just 0.5. Lenyn Sosa at 0.1 was the only "positive" fWAR guy on the roster, after Luis. DeJong and Lopez led the team. Vaughn Benintendi Lee combined for -0.9. Sheets himself alone "contributed" -0.9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 3:42 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: Truer words have never been spoken. It makes zero sense, but the Sox are gonna Sox. Signing washed up vets last offseason worked so well to the tune of 121 losses and not giving young players enough at bats as a result. So let’s employ that strategy again this offseason! And you just know Drury is making the team as well. There quite simply is no fucking plan here. Expand They just signed the guy you've been screaming all along they should have signed last year. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) On 2/12/2025 at 3:50 AM, WestEddy said: They just signed the guy you've been screaming all along they should have signed last year. LOL. Expand And he sucked last year after a good 2022 and 2023. He is turning 34 next month. Time changes everything. But I guess this shows us what Getz thinks about Fletcher and Colas. And since you kept ripping adding Taylor last offseason, shouldn’t you think this is a pointless/stupid move again this offseason? Edited February 12 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/11/2025 at 11:12 PM, Bob Sacamano said: At least he knows his own name Expand Having never heard him talk about himself in the third person I wouldn’t bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Trade Robert to the Giants and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 4:07 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said: Trade Robert to the Giants and be done with it. Expand Who would they target? I agree they seem like the most likely trade partner, as they can afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 2:22 AM, Bob Sacamano said: I think they will have someone who can cover. Backup C, 2 OFs (Taylor/platoon) and an IF who can play all 4. Expand So you expect them to sign another IF? Or Montgomery is up and Baldwin is the Backup IF with Rojas full time starter at either 2b or 3b? This one reminds me of the lack of anyone who could backup CF on Hahn’s 2023 Roster, where Grifol couldn’t give Robert a day off so he played in 89/92 games in the first half - with his injury history. The other way this could be super fun is if Baldwin is the only SS on the roster and has one of those minor injuries that shuts him down for 11 days but they don’t IL him - someone who hasn’t played or practiced SS in weeks is shifted there full time, and they surely have no idea why they’re giving up more hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Every player the White Sox have signed this offseason were candidates for the Atlantic League 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 4:19 AM, Balta1701 said: So you expect them to sign another IF? Or Montgomery is up and Baldwin is the Backup IF with Rojas full time starter at either 2b or 3b? This one reminds me of the lack of anyone who could backup CF on Hahn’s 2023 Roster, where Grifol couldn’t give Robert a day off so he played in 89/92 games in the first half - with his injury history. The other way this could be super fun is if Baldwin is the only SS on the roster and has one of those minor injuries that shuts him down for 11 days but they don’t IL him - someone who hasn’t played or practiced SS in weeks is shifted there full time, and they surely have no idea why they’re giving up more hits. Expand Amaya or Maton until Montgomery comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 4:10 AM, fathom said: Who would they target? I agree they seem like the most likely trade partner, as they can afford him. Expand Eldridge. One for one swap. Unfortunately, that’s probably not realistic at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 3:10 AM, ChiSox59 said: I absolutely loathe the Sox offseason. It makes no fucking sense. Expand They needed bodies but don’t have any money to spend. This is what happens. A bunch of low upside garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) On 2/12/2025 at 4:07 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said: Trade Robert to the Giants Dodgers/Mets and be done with it. Expand They already have the Woo contract on the books for 4-5 years... Edited February 12 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/12/2025 at 4:44 AM, ChiSoxFanMike said: They needed bodies but don’t have any money to spend. This is what happens. A bunch of low upside garbage. Expand They have other bodies to play and see what they have in them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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