Sox Spring Training notes

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

  On 3/17/2025 at 9:10 PM, ChiSoxFanMike said:

Vargas, Sosa, Drury, Vaughn from left to right. Seems straightforward to me.

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Sosa can't play shortstop. That would be unfair to him and the pitching staff.

Edited March 17 by Look at Ray Ray Run

[caulfield12]

Which is why the BEST thing for the pitching staff is to bite the bullet offensively and just stick Amaya at SS.

Bergolla's the only other realistic candidate that can handle the position, but is at least a year or two away.

 

They might play Meidroth there to start the season, but that experiment won't last longer than 4-6 weeks before all of his range and arm strength weaknesses are fully exposed for the world to see.

 

REALISTICALLY, if they wanted to save money on Rojas, they could have simply signed Jose Iglesias for SS.

That would have left Vargas/Sosa/Ramos for 3B and and Vargas/Sosa/Meidroth for 2B and then Baldwin would simply have ended up at the jack of all trades guy or got sent down to Charlotte to get everyday at-bats since he was pushed up to the big leagues at least half a year too quickly to fill in a positional gap.

Edited March 18 by caulfield12

[ptatc]

  On 3/18/2025 at 1:07 AM, caulfield12 said:

Which is why the BEST thing for the pitching staff is to bite the bullet offensively and just stick Amaya at SS.

Bergolla's the only other realistic candidate that can handle the position, but is at least a year or two away.

 

They might play Meidroth there to start the season, but that experiment won't last longer than 4-6 weeks before all of his range and arm strength weaknesses are fully exposed for the world to see.

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No one is going to be shortstop for more than  4-6 weeks because Montgomery will be back by then.

[caulfield12]

  On 3/18/2025 at 1:09 AM, ptatc said:

No one is going to be shortstop for more than  4-6 weeks because Montgomery will be back by then.

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Is that your heart as a Sox/prospect fan OR as an experienced physical therapist?

Realistically, he's much better off trying to play 3B than SS in terms of the everyday physical demands of that position.

 

[ptatc]

  On 3/18/2025 at 1:11 AM, caulfield12 said:

Is that your heart as a Sox/prospect fan OR as an experienced physical therapist?

Realistically, he's much better off trying to play 3B than SS in terms of the everyday physical demands of that position.

 

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Maybe, but the organization will give him every shot to play at SS.

Based on everything we read.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

Next round of cuts thread inexplicably closed .So maybe put it here when the remaining guys get cut ?

Wasn't Colas sent down ?

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

Drury was pulled from yesterday's game because of a hand bruise.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

  On 3/18/2025 at 1:09 AM, ptatc said:

No one is going to be shortstop for more than  4-6 weeks because Montgomery will be back by then.

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He better start off hot then because there's a good chance it'll take longer.

[ptatc]

  On 3/22/2025 at 5:07 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

He better start off hot then because there's a good chance it'll take longer.

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I don't think that will matter. I think once he shows he's healthy and gets what they feel is enough spring training at bats, he'll be called up. He would be the starting shortstop now if he was healthy.

[pcq]

They could easily be worse this year. They are devoted to failure. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

  On 3/18/2025 at 1:07 AM, caulfield12 said:

Which is why the BEST thing for the pitching staff is to bite the bullet offensively and just stick Amaya at SS.

Bergolla's the only other realistic candidate that can handle the position, but is at least a year or two away.

 

They might play Meidroth there to start the season, but that experiment won't last longer than 4-6 weeks before all of his range and arm strength weaknesses are fully exposed for the world to see.

 

REALISTICALLY, if they wanted to save money on Rojas, they could have simply signed Jose Iglesias for SS.

That would have left Vargas/Sosa/Ramos for 3B and and Vargas/Sosa/Meidroth for 2B and then Baldwin would simply have ended up at the jack of all trades guy or got sent down to Charlotte to get everyday at-bats since he was pushed up to the big leagues at least half a year too quickly to fill in a positional gap.

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Not sure why you bolded what you did. Iglesias didn't play much SS last year and the Sox would've likely had to paid more for him  than they did for Rojas if they had signed him at the same time.

Pretty sure the whole reason Iglesias lasted as long as he did was because no one wanted to meet his price at his age despite hitting well last year playing mostly 2nd and 3rd. Sox probably checked on him before Rojas.

I actually advocated for Iglesias early in the off season because he probably still could play SS better than most still here vying for the position and because being a Cuban vet who learned to become a better hitter later in his career he might've been a good influence to help Robert  who has run out of Cuban teammates.

Edited Saturday at 05:21 PM by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

  On 3/22/2025 at 5:09 PM, ptatc said:

I don't think that will matter. I think once he shows he's healthy and gets what they feel is enough spring training at bats, he'll be called up. He would be the starting shortstop now if he was healthy.

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I think he has to show he can hit AAA pitching and stay healthy otherwise what does he have to offer?

[caulfield12]

  On 3/22/2025 at 5:17 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Not sure why you bolded what you did. Iglesias didn't play much SS last year and the Sox would've likely had to paid more for him  than they did for Rojas if they had signed him at the same time.

Pretty sure the whole reason Iglesias lasted as long as he did was because no one wanted to meet his price at his age despite hitting well last year playing mostly 2nd and 3rd. Sox probably checked on him before Rojas.

I actually advocated for Iglesias early in the off season because he probably still could play SS better than most still here vying for the position and because being a Cuban vet who learned to become a better hitter later in his career he might've been a good influence to help Robert  who has run out of Cuban teammates.

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I actually wanted HaSeong Kim all along but the Rays were suddenly willing to spend on a SS after what they went through with Franco.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

  On 3/22/2025 at 5:44 PM, caulfield12 said:

I actually wanted HaSeong Kim all along but the Rays were suddenly willing to spend on a SS after what they went through with Franco.

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Apparently the Sox weren't going to spend over $5M on any one player unless incentives warranted it.

[caulfield12]

  On 3/22/2025 at 6:43 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Apparently the Sox weren't going to spend over $5M on any one player unless incentives warranted it.

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"Incentives warranted it" lol.

That sounds more like JR.

Too bad Moncada Grandal Jimenez didn't have those same incentives built in.

We couldn't even afford Kyle Gibson now.

[TheBooneLoganEra]

Genuine curiosity....why hasn't Adisyn Coffey gotten a serious look? I don't know much about him but seems he had a great year in the minors last year and in brief looks in spring. Yet he just doesn't seem to be in talks for the roster. I know he's 25. I'm just curious if anyone has anything else has info. Again, don't know much about him. 

[caulfield12]

  On 3/23/2025 at 12:55 AM, TheBooneLoganEra said:

Genuine curiosity....why hasn't Adisyn Coffey gotten a serious look? I don't know much about him but seems he had a great year in the minors last year and in brief looks in spring. Yet he just doesn't seem to be in talks for the roster. I know he's 25. I'm just curious if anyone has anything else has info. Again, don't know much about him. 

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He has one massive fan here who always has the same question...Him Schoenle and Palette.

[Dick Allen]

That Boyer quote that many fans think what happens on the field is the most important thing really chaps my ass. 

[WhiteSox2023]

  On 3/18/2025 at 1:09 AM, ptatc said:

No one is going to be shortstop for more than  4-6 weeks because Montgomery will be back by then.

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And what happens if his back flares up again?

[ptatc]

  On 3/23/2025 at 4:00 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

And what happens if his back flares up again?

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Then they go to either whomever was there, if he is still around or tobthe utility player who i think will be Baldwin.

It looks like he missed about 10 days so a 15 day IL is reasonable. Thats the job of the utility player to cover.

[fathom]

So Tauchman is hurt also?

[DoUEvenShift]

 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

  On 3/23/2025 at 3:09 AM, caulfield12 said:

He has one massive fan here who always has the same question...Him Schoenle and Palette.

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I wonder who you're talking about.😋 I wouldn't call myself a massive fan , just thought he deserved more consideration than he got . I just like to try to identify guys who don't get much recognition. The stats speak for themselves and  I think it was their AA pitching coach John Ely who was on the McGuffey podcast raving about those guys.But apparently even at 26 yrs old they'd rather save the younger guys for the 2nd half after trading as many of the veteran relievers with decent 1st half stats.

Edited Sunday at 05:59 PM by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[TheBooneLoganEra]

  On 3/23/2025 at 5:58 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I wonder who you're talking about.😋 I wouldn't call myself a massive fan , just thought he deserved more consideration than he got . I just like to try to identify guys who don't get much recognition. The stats speak for themselves and  I think it was their AA pitching coach John Ely who was on the McGuffey podcast raving about those guys.But apparently even at 26 yrs old they'd rather save the younger guys for the 2nd half after trading as many of the veteran relievers with decent 1st half stats.

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Yes. Ely seemed kind of baffled they didn't bring him up and give him a look last. Sometimes players just deserve the opportunity when they put in the work and have success. Sox seem to have trouble with that among the thousand other things they're shitty at. 

[Timmy U]

Coffey is being hurt by Sox desire to churn roster. If they clear some of the guys they have claimed on waivers by midseason, maybe he’ll get a shot. I think he’s earned it.