fathom Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Already at max velocity 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) On 2/18/2025 at 7:46 PM, fathom said: Already at max velocity Expand Nah, he’ll be up to late career Maddux velocities in a few weeks — 88/89. Edited February 18 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 4:33 PM, T R U said: There's absolutely players in MLB who don't love baseball and just play it because they are good at it and its a job that pays a ridiculous salary. That strikes me as Moncada. Sometimes I get that feeling about Robert as well, purely based off body language at times. Expand I’ve always gotten the same impression with Moncada. One of my favorite Yoan moments was a few years ago, during a regular season game, when he got a huge hit up the middle to give us the lead late. I don’t even remember who it was against. Had to be a divisional matchup. But the emotion he showed at first base after the hit was unlike anything I had seen from him. It was awesome to see. Anybody remember this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 7:46 PM, fathom said: Already at max velocity Expand Liam Hendriks throwing 93-94… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I have no idea what they were doing with Thorpe. He simply does not have the velocity necessary to be successful at the MLB level in 2025. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBJ03 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:15 PM, baseball_gal_aly said: I have no idea what they were doing with Thorpe. He simply does not have the velocity necessary to be successful at the MLB level in 2025. Expand Or he could be a pitcher and not just a thrower? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:19 PM, CBJ03 said: Or he could be a pitcher and not just a thrower? Expand It’s early, so while people are joking, I don’t think he has maxed out at 84-85. But 84-85 max velocity ain’t working for anyone these days, pitcher or thrower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 6:50 PM, Baron said: There's one coming to Austin this year sometime too which is great. We just had some Portillos dry iced here. Wasn't too bad for the beef. The hotdogs tasted different. Expand And one in San Antonio. With pizza the local places can't get the sausage seasoning the same. I assume with beef or will be the same issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 8:58 PM, SoxBlanco said: I’ve always gotten the same impression with Moncada. One of my favorite Yoan moments was a few years ago, during a regular season game, when he got a huge hit up the middle to give us the lead late. I don’t even remember who it was against. Had to be a divisional matchup. But the emotion he showed at first base after the hit was unlike anything I had seen from him. It was awesome to see. Anybody remember this? Expand This one? https://www.mlb.com/video/yoan-moncada-singles-on-a-fly-ball-to-center-fielder-mauricio-dubon-adam-engel-s He had also gotten a go-ahead hit late the night before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:19 PM, CBJ03 said: Or he could be a pitcher and not just a thrower? Expand When everyone is throwing 95+, 92 looks like a beach ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBJ03 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:48 PM, baseball_gal_aly said: When everyone is throwing 95+, 92 looks like a beach ball. Expand Location and movement is much more important that velocity. Just go watch anyone talk about hitting a 100 mph straight fastball vs a 92 mph with movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:53 PM, CBJ03 said: Location and movement is much more important that velocity. Just go watch anyone talk about hitting a 100 mph straight fastball vs a 92 mph with movement. Expand Today you need both. Also Thorpe was throwing 91-93 and was getting shelled. Safe to say that he didn't have the spin, movement and velocity to succeed at the MLB level. Once the book was out it was over. I am sticking to this until Thorpe proves me wrong. Soft tossers don't work in 2025, especially if they're right handed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:56 PM, baseball_gal_aly said: Today you need both. Also Thorpe was throwing 91-93 and was getting shelled. Safe to say that he didn't have the spin, movement and velocity to succeed at the MLB level. Once the book was out it was over. I am sticking to this until Thorpe proves me wrong. Soft tossers don't work in 2025, especially if they're right handed. Expand Thorpe looked good for the most part in a small MLB sample until he got shelled in his last two starts. He then went on the IL so it’s fair to say he wasn’t healthy by that point. I think it is premature to say the book is out on him, though it would be nice if he had more velo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) On 2/18/2025 at 7:05 PM, Kyyle23 said: The restaurant I worked at in Carbondale during college would soak the beef for a minute prior to serving and I must insist that it is the best way to serve it Expand Now I am getting this as an advertisement at the bottom of this site lol so weird because I didn't even search it or anything Edited February 18 by Bob Sacamano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) On 2/18/2025 at 10:23 PM, ChiSoxFanMike said: Thorpe looked good for the most part in a small MLB sample until he got shelled in his last two starts. He then went on the IL so it’s fair to say he wasn’t healthy by that point. I think it is premature to say the book is out on him, though it would be nice if he had more velo. Expand While this is true, his strikeouts were way down and his command was still not good. He walked far too many batters and threw quite a few absolute meatballs. Edited February 18 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:15 PM, baseball_gal_aly said: I have no idea what they were doing with Thorpe. He simply does not have the velocity necessary to be successful at the MLB level in 2025. Expand And bumble bees can't fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 10:35 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: While this is true, his strikeouts were way down and his command was still not good. He walked far too many batters and threw quite a few absolute meatballs. Expand Yeah, he definitely has things to work on and has less margin for error than other pitchers because he doesn’t throw hard. But I think it’s disingenuous to act like Thorpe got shelled every time he went out there. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Lots and lots of revisionist history going around lately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 8:03 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: Nah, he’ll be up to late career Maddux velocities in a few weeks — 88/89. Expand Better than later career Jamie moyer at 79. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 11:00 PM, ptatc said: Better than later career Jamie moyer at 79. Expand That's almost better. You almost have to be below the hitting speed, vs just being on the low end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:15 PM, baseball_gal_aly said: I have no idea what they were doing with Thorpe. He simply does not have the velocity necessary to be successful at the MLB level in 2025. Expand Today is literally his first day throwing off a mound since his injury…if anyone should be called Captain Panic it’s you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 9:56 PM, baseball_gal_aly said: Today you need both. Also Thorpe was throwing 91-93 and was getting shelled. Safe to say that he didn't have the spin, movement and velocity to succeed at the MLB level. Once the book was out it was over. I am sticking to this until Thorpe proves me wrong. Soft tossers don't work in 2025, especially if they're right handed. Expand It was like seven fucking starts…you are literally using a SSS to confirm a pre-conceived bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 11:36 PM, Chicago White Sox said: It was like seven fucking starts…you are literally using a SSS to confirm a pre-conceived bias. Expand 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/18/2025 at 10:57 PM, Baron said: Lots and lots of revisionist history going around lately. Expand It’s not even revisionist theory. It’s simply people who didn’t like Thorpe at the time of the Cease trade grasping at straws to confirm their pre-conceived notions. They love highlighting the last couple major league starts he got beat up (likely while injured) but ignore his extensive track record of minor league success. I can totally get being concerned that Thorpe’s margin of error will be thin because his fastball is a fringe offering, but the immediate need to a write a player over a small sample size (again, while likely injured) is just absurd. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I don’t think it’s that wild to say that since he doesn’t throw hard, he has to have that much more control and hit his spots to be successful. A lot of misses over the heart of the plate and he will get hit around. Having said that, I’m not writing him off now. It’s too early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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