Opening Day 26-Man Roster

[ChiSox59]

  On 3/20/2025 at 12:03 AM, 46DidIt said:

Seemed like Taylor was signed just as insurance in event of Robert trade, but if he's still here seems to me Tauchman is sufficient to back up Robert. Colas still hasn't been reassigned unlike Fletcher. Any chance he makes roster instead of Taylor? 

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I don't think there is a much of a chance. Taylor signed an MLB deal and Colas has an option, and the Sox obviously aren't big fans. I'd absolutely give Colas as much of a shot as possible in 2025, but I also wouldn't have signed more than 1 of Tauchman, Slater and Taylor. 

[Bob Sacamano]

  On 3/20/2025 at 12:26 AM, GreenSox said:

No one wanted him as a 5th starter.
Standards change in July for late inning relievers.
Yall may be right that he's just too odious.  But, I can remember 2 teams trading for wife-beaters for want of late inning relief.  

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He had to sign late into spring training 2 years in a row because…no one wants him

[tray]

Meidroth at second base and Lenyn Sosa at SS.  Not comfortable with anyone currently on the roster for 3B.

[caulfield12]

  On 3/20/2025 at 7:12 AM, tray said:

Meidroth at second base and Lenyn Sosa at SS.  Not comfortable with anyone currently on the roster for 3B.

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Rojas is basically GG caliber there at 3B.

Why does anyone think that Sosa's capable of even pusing up a neutral defensive rating at SS?  I can't think of one thing he does extremely well there.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

  On 3/20/2025 at 7:33 AM, caulfield12 said:

Rojas is basically GG caliber there at 3B.

Why does anyone think that Sosa's capable of even pusing up a neutral defensive rating at SS?  I can't think of one thing he does extremely well there.

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As one of the few Sox hitters who has show a lively bat in the recent past and who is out of options you have to play him. If it's DH, 2nd base 3rd or SS, him and Vargas have to get the majority of PAs. The rest of the guys like Meidroth, Rojas, Baldwin, Ramos or anyone who is RH and wants to DH will have to wait.

I get the impression that Getz is dying to have a LH guy succeed but most of his best hitters this spring have been RH or LH guys who aren't really ready for the majors.

The only guy who is LH who got enough PAs this spring to make a good impression offensively was Nick Maton and the Sox might not be taking him seriously since he can't play CF or just was considered Charlotte filler for infield or LF. His power was always considered worse than his other baseball skills but he's got that buggywhip LH swing that hits velocity well but 3 HRs this spring and .333 BA in 27 AB w/ 3 HR and a double was surprising.

I don't recall if he was sent down yet but he will be. The OF and INF are both too crowded for his ST performance to mean anything at 28 yrs old.

[WestEddy]

Oscar Colas didn’t make the White Sox’s Opening Day roster, per sources.

He’ll have to earn his way back from Triple-A.

— Francys Romero (@francysromeroFR) March 19, 2025

[PaleAleSox]

  On 3/20/2025 at 12:29 PM, WestEddy said:

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"Earn his way back" makes it sound like he has, at one point, earned it. Which is not true.

[ChiSox59]

  On 3/20/2025 at 12:29 PM, WestEddy said:

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While this was a foregone conclusion, I still don't get it. Oscar likely just sucks, but there is not a good reason to not give him 500 at bats this season. If if if if it clicked, he's kind of what we've been looking for for decades.  Chances of that happening are remote, but chances that any of Tauchman, Slater or Taylor being part of the future is ZERO, and the chances they return anything remotely interesting are way less than Colas turning into a valuable player. 

Just play the dude and see what happens.  

[Bob Sacamano]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:13 PM, ChiSox59 said:

While this was a foregone conclusion, I still don't get it. Oscar likely just sucks, but there is not a good reason to not give him 500 at bats this season. If if if if it clicked, he's kind of what we've been looking for for decades.  Chances of that happening are remote, but chances that any of Tauchman, Slater or Taylor being part of the future is ZERO, and the chances they return anything remotely interesting are way less than Colas turning into a valuable player. 

Just play the dude and see what happens.  

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If they didn't do it last year with all of the opportunities that arose, they probably won't do it this year. It's unfortunate for sure.

Edited Thursday at 01:20 PM by Bob Sacamano

[WhiteSox2023]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:13 PM, ChiSox59 said:

While this was a foregone conclusion, I still don't get it. Oscar likely just sucks, but there is not a good reason to not give him 500 at bats this season. If if if if it clicked, he's kind of what we've been looking for for decades.  Chances of that happening are remote, but chances that any of Tauchman, Slater or Taylor being part of the future is ZERO, and the chances they return anything remotely interesting are way less than Colas turning into a valuable player. 

Just play the dude and see what happens.  

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That’s because you are being logical.  Getz is illogical.  By the time Colas gets a chance, if he ever does, he’ll already be aged out of any value or usefulness for the future.

Edited Thursday at 01:24 PM by WhiteSox2023

[Chicago White Sox]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:13 PM, ChiSox59 said:

While this was a foregone conclusion, I still don't get it. Oscar likely just sucks, but there is not a good reason to not give him 500 at bats this season. If if if if it clicked, he's kind of what we've been looking for for decades.  Chances of that happening are remote, but chances that any of Tauchman, Slater or Taylor being part of the future is ZERO, and the chances they return anything remotely interesting are way less than Colas turning into a valuable player. 

Just play the dude and see what happens.  

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Make him earn it.  He can still get called up in a month and get a fuckton of at-bats.  He hasn’t shown enough in AAA to warrant a major league opportunity.  I get the “it’s a lost season, play the young guys” thought process, but you got to at least show something to warrant such treatment.  I hope he worked with Fuller this offseason and can find a way to tap into his raw power because a .154 ISO for him while playing half his games in Charlotte is embarrassing.

[Chicago White Sox]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:23 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

That’s because you are being logical.  Getz is illogical.  By the time Colas gets a chance, if he ever does, he’ll already be aged out of any value or usefulness.

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Yup, logic dictates being a below average hitter in a bandbox at AAA will translate to being a good one in the majors.  Holy s%*# people have lost their minds here.

[WestEddy]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:13 PM, ChiSox59 said:

While this was a foregone conclusion, I still don't get it. Oscar likely just sucks, but there is not a good reason to not give him 500 at bats this season. If if if if it clicked, he's kind of what we've been looking for for decades.  Chances of that happening are remote, but chances that any of Tauchman, Slater or Taylor being part of the future is ZERO, and the chances they return anything remotely interesting are way less than Colas turning into a valuable player. 

Just play the dude and see what happens.  

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I think he's just a bone-head in the field, so he's a first baseman. And Drury hits much better than him to back up Vaughn. 

Yes, I would have much rather they non-tendered Vaughn, but that would have been without the knowledge of Drury finding his old self at the plate. 

[PaleAleSox]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:23 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

That’s because you are being logical.  Getz is illogical.  By the time Colas gets a chance, if he ever does, he’ll already be aged out of any value or usefulness for the future.

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I think he is a player who sucks and has a horrible attitude on top of it.

[Princess Dye]

Colas hasn't even shown extended ability to hit at the minors, let alone his mlb opportunities

[Bob Sacamano]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:31 PM, WestEddy said:

I think he's just a bone-head in the field, so he's a first baseman. And Drury hits much better than him to back up Vaughn. 

Yes, I would have much rather they non-tendered Vaughn, but that would have been without the knowledge of Drury finding his old self at the plate. 

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Man, it sucks because I was in the "non-tender Vaughn and platoon Colas at 1B with literally anyone" camp. Didn't know at the time but the person could have been Drury.

Hopefully Vaughn hits and can be traded.

Edited Thursday at 01:57 PM by Bob Sacamano

[Harold's Leg Lift]

They should release Colas to open a spot on the 40 man.

[WestEddy]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:55 PM, Bob Sacamano said:

Man, it sucks because I was in the "non-tender Vaughn and platoon Colas at 1B with literally anyone" camp. Didn't know at the time but the person could have been Drury.

Hopefully Vaughn hits and can be traded.

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I was ready for an Elko/Colas timeshare. It seems Getz has bigger ideas for this season than we would have thought. 

[Bob Sacamano]

  On 3/20/2025 at 2:13 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They should release Colas to open a spot on the 40 man.

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Yeah he’s gotta be on the short list of guys they’ll cut to make room for Meidroth/Clevinger/Drury.

[caulfield12]

If Fuller and Thames don't see any reasons for encouragement...no reason to prolong the inevitable.

Just DFA him.

There have been character as well as performance red flags.

He clearly needs a change of scenery.

[mac9001]

For all the hate that Colas gets his overall offensive number were pretty comparable to Colon's.

[Nardiwashere]

  On 3/20/2025 at 2:40 PM, mac9001 said:

For all the hate that Colas gets his overall offensive number were pretty comparable to Colon's.

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[WhiteSox2023]

  On 3/20/2025 at 1:29 PM, Chicago White Sox said:

Yup, logic dictates being a below average hitter in a bandbox at AAA will translate to being a good one in the majors.  Holy s%*# people have lost their minds here.

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I never said Colas will translate to the majors but I don’t see the point in wasting at bats on vets.  The Sox have a garbage lineup and are playing 34 year old vets in their outfield that won’t be here next season.  At some point, you should just see what you have with younger players.  Afterall, what did Slater do to deserve being a platoon starter in the outfield from the minute he was signed?  I don’t care about his numbers from 2+ years ago.  He’s not the same guy now.  He’s older and bad.  The tiny chance of a younger player panning out in the majors is worth more to the Sox than wasting at bats on a guy like Slater.

Edited Thursday at 02:49 PM by WhiteSox2023

[vilehoopster]

Managing a professional team means more than managing the talent, making lineups, scouting, skill development, and whatever else we associate with running a professional team. It also means managing players and their egos, usually big egos. You have to take into account those egos. 

So, let me say something that many on here will disagree with. I really don't think the Sox want to leave ST with Meidroth on the MLB roster. For one reason, I don't think his bat is ready. But here's the other. . . 

Also, if Meidroth, batting .133 or whatever, is playing in Chicago, and Colson was sent down to the minors two weeks ago, Colson is never going to forgive or forget that. I'm sure Colson will say all the right things, blah, blah blah. But he will see the combination of those two decisions as a big slight to him (he's been in the orgainzation much longer) and that is going to fester. Colson already feels he wasn't given a real shot due to an injury that he will feel is not his fault. 

Can I prove this? Of course not. but if you work with players and their egos, you have to know this is a reality. If Colson is at Charlotte and Meidroth is in Chicago, down the road, the Sox will pay for it. 

I've said this before: Send them all down to Charlotte, let them play together and win together; then after the big flip sale at the trading deadline, bring them and their winning attitutes and expectations up. 

 

[46DidIt]

  On 3/20/2025 at 2:24 PM, Bob Sacamano said:

Yeah he’s gotta be on the short list of guys they’ll cut to make room for Meidroth/Clevinger/Drury.

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Sox have 23 pitchers on 40 man though. No 3rd catcher either. Seems like they need to cut pitchers but with all these mediocre vets evidently making the active roster looks like that leaves the B- prospects left to DFA. Is Berroa going on 60 day list? Don't see how carrying guys like Taylor and Justin Anderson helps this team long run while cutting Colas and someone like Carela or whoever they are going to have to sacrifice. Immediate OF depth is crap so don't see how they can cut Fletcher or Colas, or any position player on 40 man really. Couple OFers and catcher go on the 10 day IL then what? Going to have to start thinking about cutting guys like Nastrini