Buehrle>Wood Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 3/7/2025 at 12:23 PM, caulfield12 said: They're worth whatever Ishbia is willing to pay for them? it's not the shares themselves...it's a separate issue of control person. That's not related to a certain block of shares per se. Even then we're still talking $100 millionish in cap gains...that's a rounding error for the Suns/Ishbias. It's all about Jerry's ego/legacy at this point. But basically the same reason the Pohlads want out in Minnesota. No longer as much fun for them...having had the family (multiple generations) involved for 40-50 years now. Expand Yes that is correct. And he is almost certainly going to be paying more for Jerry's more valuable shares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 3/7/2025 at 12:25 PM, Buehrle>Wood said: Yes that is correct. And he is almost certainly going to be paying more for Jerry's more valuable shares. Expand Which was probably already agreed upon...RoFR at some predetermined point in the future, and definitely upon death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just talked to a dude who is friends with Justin Ishbia. Was told that Ishbia was negotiating with Jerry for the past year to do a deal and that “it’s happening” now after Jerry reached out to him with some sort of proposal. Sounds like it will happening in the not too distant future. Nothing we don’t know other than than the timing. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 3/8/2025 at 7:26 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Just talked to a dude who is friends with Justin Ishbia. Was told that Ishbia was negotiating with Jerry for the past year to do a deal and that “it’s happening” now after Jerry reached out to him with some sort of proposal. Sounds like it will happening in the not too distant future. Nothing we don’t know other than than the timing. Expand Lets hope that something happens soon. Most White Sox fans aren't too optimistic about things turning around under the present ownership. I couldn't help but notice on Ticketmaster that the White Sox home opener has thousands of unsold tickets. New ownership would provide some hope for the future. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 3/8/2025 at 8:38 PM, WBWSF said: Lets hope that something happens soon. Most White Sox fans aren't too optimistic about things turning around under the present ownership. I couldn't help but notice on Ticketmaster that the White Sox home opener has thousands of unsold tickets. New ownership would provide some hope for the future. Expand And they might actually peruse your resume...a new admin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 3/8/2025 at 8:38 PM, WBWSF said: Lets hope that something happens soon. Most White Sox fans aren't too optimistic about things turning around under the present ownership. I couldn't help but notice on Ticketmaster that the White Sox home opener has thousands of unsold tickets. New ownership would provide some hope for the future. Expand It is always hard to sell out the 500 level there. They are bad seats too far from the field and too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 3/8/2025 at 7:26 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Just talked to a dude who is friends with Justin Ishbia. Was told that Ishbia was negotiating with Jerry for the past year to do a deal and that “it’s happening” now after Jerry reached out to him with some sort of proposal. Sounds like it will happening in the not too distant future. Nothing we don’t know other than than the timing. Expand My dropping MLB.TV has probably gotten through to JR that the time is now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 3/8/2025 at 10:40 PM, caulfield12 said: And they might actually peruse your resume...a new admin. Expand In all modesty, if I was hired as the GM and given a free hand this White Sox team would be much better than what it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/8/2025 at 11:27 PM, WBWSF said: In all modesty, if I was hired as the GM and given a free hand this White Sox team would be much better than what it is now. Expand I don't think it would have been possible for the majority to do worse than the worst since 1900... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/8/2025 at 7:26 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Just talked to a dude who is friends with Justin Ishbia. Was told that Ishbia was negotiating with Jerry for the past year to do a deal and that “it’s happening” now after Jerry reached out to him with some sort of proposal. Sounds like it will happening in the not too distant future. Nothing we don’t know other than than the timing. Expand If true, how does his bid to buy the Twins during this timeframe fit into that? Did he think negotiations weren't progressing and then turned to the Twins when they went up for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/9/2025 at 2:34 AM, 77 Hitmen said: If true, how does his bid to buy the Twins during this timeframe fit into that? Did he think negotiations weren't progressing and then turned to the Twins when they went up for sale? Expand Possibly...then JR countered when he saw his last/best chance flipping through his fingers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/9/2025 at 2:34 AM, 77 Hitmen said: If true, how does his bid to buy the Twins during this timeframe fit into that? Did he think negotiations weren't progressing and then turned to the Twins when they went up for sale? Expand I’m speculating here, but I really think this comes down to Jerry realizing he doesn’t have a lot of time left and doesn’t want to lose out on a super rich potential buyer with Chicago ties. Ishbia bought a single mid digit amount of shares back in 2021 and it sounds like he had been pushing to outright buy the team for some time. I think he eventually got tired of waiting and decided to take advantage of the Twins opportunity because Jerry wasn’t budging. Regardless, we do know that the threat of Ishbia buying the Twins led to Jerry proposing something to Ishbia and created this first initial domino to make him the biggest shareholder of the Sox. A transfer of control will be happening at some point before Jerry dies based on my conversation yesterday and I don’t think it will be multiple years from now. I fully expect some sort of deal to take place similar to what happened with the Orioles. Just not sure if that’s later this year, next season, etc. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/9/2025 at 2:50 PM, Chicago White Sox said: I’m speculating here, but I really think this comes down to Jerry realizing he doesn’t have a lot of time left and doesn’t want to lose out on a super rich potential buyer with Chicago ties. Ishbia bought a single mid digit amount of shares back in 2021 and it sounds like he had been pushing to outright buy the team for some time. I think he eventually got tired of waiting and decided to take advantage of the Twins opportunity because Jerry wasn’t budging. Regardless, we do know that the threat of Ishbia buying the Twins led to Jerry proposing something to Ishbia and created this first initial domino to make him the biggest shareholder of the Sox. A transfer of control will be happening at some point before Jerry dies based on my conversation yesterday and I don’t think it will be multiple years from now. I fully expect some sort of deal to take place similar to what happened with the Orioles. Just not sure if that’s later this year, next season, etc. Expand Didn't know the Phoenix Suns Gorilla had such loose lips. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/9/2025 at 2:57 PM, PaleAleSox said: Didn't know the Phoenix Suns Gorilla had such loose lips. Expand Honestly, the guy I talked to didn’t say much we didn’t already know other than reaffirming that there is a bigger deal in the works and it will be agreed to prior to Jerry’s death which many of us were already speculating. Nonetheless, as someone who’s desperate to escape Jerry’s reign of terror I will happily take any little tidbit that suggests Ishbia will be in control sooner rather than later as a positive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/9/2025 at 3:12 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Honestly, the guy I talked to didn’t say much we didn’t already know other than reaffirming that there is a bigger deal in the works and it will be agreed to prior to Jerry’s death which many of us were already speculating. Nonetheless, as someone who’s desperate to escape Jerry’s reign of terror I will happily take any little tidbit that suggests Ishbia will be in control sooner rather than later as a positive. Expand A big part of it must be having no way forward with getting significant public stadium funding without his own skin in the game...losing the local tv ownership...and having no remaining desire to spend in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/9/2025 at 2:50 PM, Chicago White Sox said: I’m speculating here, but I really think this comes down to Jerry realizing he doesn’t have a lot of time left and doesn’t want to lose out on a super rich potential buyer with Chicago ties. Ishbia bought a single mid digit amount of shares back in 2021 and it sounds like he had been pushing to outright buy the team for some time. I think he eventually got tired of waiting and decided to take advantage of the Twins opportunity because Jerry wasn’t budging. Regardless, we do know that the threat of Ishbia buying the Twins led to Jerry proposing something to Ishbia and created this first initial domino to make him the biggest shareholder of the Sox. A transfer of control will be happening at some point before Jerry dies based on my conversation yesterday and I don’t think it will be multiple years from now. I fully expect some sort of deal to take place similar to what happened with the Orioles. Just not sure if that’s later this year, next season, etc. Expand Dan Hayes was on the SoxMachine podcast last week. What he seemed to imply was that Ishbia used the Twins to push Jerry towards a meeting of the minds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Rate stadium, parking areas, ChiSox bar and grill, merchandise stores, concessions, etc, are a goldmine for the Sox and a money maker for taxpayers/ISFA. Sox just need to field a competitive/ interesting team that is fun to watch. Added ticket sales and viewership will follow. Look at how the Bulls have increased fan interest by assembling a young team that is starting to compete. If you watched their last two wins in Florida you know what I am talking about. No they are not going to win a championship any time soon, but their likeable young players are fun to watch. That is what we need on the South side and it has been a looooong time since we had that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/9/2025 at 4:22 PM, tray said: Rate stadium, parking areas, ChiSox bar and grill, merchandise stores, concessions, etc, are a goldmine for the Sox and a money maker for taxpayers/ISFA. Sox just need to field a competitive/ interesting team that is fun to watch. Added ticket sales and viewership will follow. Look at how the Bulls have increased fan interest by assembling a young team that is starting to compete. If you watched their last two wins in Florida you know what I am talking about. No they are not going to win a championship any time soon, but their likeable young players are fun to watch. That is what we need on the South side and it has been a looooong time since we had that. Expand Applies to the blackhawks as well. Drastic difference with some of the young talent making it's way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/8/2025 at 11:27 PM, WBWSF said: In all modesty, if I was hired as the GM and given a free hand this White Sox team would be much better than what it is now. Expand And all they other GMs would take every deal you offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 To be honest, the dream is Ishbia coming in, building a beautiful new park at the 78, and having a couple mega free agents to supplement young core. I love going to the Rate but it’s time for a new, better fan experience in an area that will drive better attendance and lead to higher, more sustainable payrolls. 6 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Tray rebuttal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/9/2025 at 5:02 PM, Chicago White Sox said: To be honest, the dream is Ishbia coming in, building a beautiful new park at the 78, and having a couple mega free agents to supplement young core. I love going to the Rate but it’s time for a new, better fan experience in an area that will drive better attendance and lead to higher, more sustainable payrolls. Expand The 78 cannot be built on. It’s basically Chernobyl circa 1986. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 6:20 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: The 78 cannot be built on. It’s basically Chernobyl circa 1986. Expand Plus 2022-24 Russian chemical weapons attacks added into the mix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) On 3/10/2025 at 6:20 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: The 78 cannot be built on. It’s basically Chernobyl circa 1986. Expand There’s a reason nothing has been built there since it was railroad yard, I’m not sold on it being a place that would cure all the Sox woes. I’m thinking of the suburbs like the Braves entertainment area or even building a jewel of a ballpark on the site of old Comiskey with an emphasis on building up the area along with a modern day Comiskey with no upper deck in left field so the skyline would be visible, of course no posts and the lower bowl with seats down the lines facing the infield, Busch Stadium in St.Louis would be a good model but as I said with no UD in left field. PNC Park would also be a great model without the huge scoreboard in left field as that would block out views of the skyline. Somehow the fan base must return to past levels, that’s a monumental task as Reinsdorf has basically destroyed it, Ishbia if he buys the franchise is going to have to spend a lot of money and bring in quality free agents and give the fans some kind of hope. Edited March 10 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) On 3/10/2025 at 10:08 AM, The Mighty Mite said: There’s a reason nothing has been built there since it was railroad yard, I’m not sold on it being a place that would cure all the Sox woes. I’m thinking of the suburbs like the Braves entertainment area or even building a jewel of a ballpark on the site of old Comiskey with an emphasis on building up the area along with a modern day Comiskey with no upper deck in left field so the skyline would be visible, of course no posts and the lower bowl with seats down the lines facing the infield, Busch Stadium in St.Louis would be a good model but as I said with no UD in left field. PNC Park would also be a great model without the huge scoreboard in left field as that would block out views of the skyline. Somehow the fan base must return to past levels, that’s a monumental task as Reinsdorf has basically destroyed it, Ishbia if he buys the franchise is going to have to spend a lot of money and bring in quality free agents and give the fans some kind of hope. Expand I think a new owner would be like drafting a QB 1-1. It would excite the fanbase tremendously, and would probably increase attendance immediately. There would be a "youre not jerry Reinsdorf" party for a couple of seasons at least. Eventually the honeymoon ends, so hopefully Ishbia is more Peyton Manning than Mitch Trubisky. Edited March 10 by Dick Allen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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