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[WhiteSox2023]

  On 3/1/2025 at 7:13 PM, Chicago White Sox said:

If they lose 120 games again you and everyone else will have their pitchforks and torches ready to go.  You keep ignoring that no credible GM is going to hand 600 plate appearances to a player they don’t believe in simply because they are young.  And it’s very clear Getz doesn’t believe in Canario or he would have offered something more than cash for him.  And beyond the job security element that you don’t want to acknowledge, there is some value in having a few spots in the lineup with higher floor veterans.  Again, I too would prefer a younger player get the opportunity in RF, but there isn’t anyone worthy of the job.  A Tauchman/Slater platoon is a perfectly fine cheap placeholder until something better presents itself.

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Getz believed in Nicky Lopez.  He believed in Fletcher.  He believed in Vargas.  He believed in DeLoach.  He apparently still believes in Clevinger.

Why do we care what Getz’s opinion on players is, other than the fact that he is unfortunately the Sox GM?

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[WestEddy]

  On 3/1/2025 at 7:30 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

Getz believed in Nicky Lopez.  He believed in Fletcher.  He believed in Vargas.  He believed in DeLoach.  He apparently still believes in Clevinger.

Why do we care what Getz’s opinion on players is, other than the fact that he is unfortunately the Sox GM?

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Because having been in the game his entire life, he probably knows a lot more about baseball players than some guy who can't even remain consistent in calling for the Sox to start Fletcher "to see what they have", and for the Sox to cut Fletcher because he's a worthless bum. 

[Chicago White Sox]

  On 3/1/2025 at 7:30 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

Getz believed in Nicky Lopez.  He believed in Fletcher.  He believed in Vargas.  He believed in DeLoach.  He apparently still believes in Clevinger.

Why do we care what Getz’s opinion on players is, other than the fact that he is unfortunately the Sox GM?

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Why do we care?  Not sure how that’s relevant to the topic at hand.  If Getz doesn’t believe in Canario like 28 other GMs, then he shouldn’t give up assets for him.  He’s the GM…it’s really that simple.

[southsider2k5]

  On 3/1/2025 at 8:07 PM, WestEddy said:

Because having been in the game his entire life, he probably knows a lot more about baseball players than some guy who can't even remain consistent in calling for the Sox to start Fletcher "to see what they have", and for the Sox to cut Fletcher because he's a worthless bum. 

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So did Kenny Williams,  plus decades of experience in running a team, so he obviously is smarter than Chris Getz by this standard. 

[WhiteSox2023]

  On 3/1/2025 at 8:07 PM, WestEddy said:

Because having been in the game his entire life, he probably knows a lot more about baseball players than some guy who can't even remain consistent in calling for the Sox to start Fletcher "to see what they have", and for the Sox to cut Fletcher because he's a worthless bum. 

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I gave up on those ideas with Fletcher and Colas cuz your boy signed an old fart platoon to play RF.  He apparently has no faith in guys he acquired and/or helped develop.

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[WestEddy]

  On 3/1/2025 at 8:40 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

I gave up on those ideas with Fletcher and Colas cuz your boy signed an old fart platoon to play RF.  He apparently has no faith in guys he acquired and/or helped develop.

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Keeping a player on the 40-man = "no faith"

Fletcher has the inside track to start opening day. 

[WhiteSox2023]

  On 3/1/2025 at 8:44 PM, WestEddy said:

Keeping a player on the 40-man = "no faith"

Fletcher has the inside track to start opening day. 

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Due to an injury to Benintendi in which he won’t even be gone that long?  Forced to play.

[WestEddy]

  On 3/1/2025 at 8:50 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

Due to an injury to Benintendi in which he won’t even be gone that long?  Forced to play.

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I like the fact that Getz doesn't feel compelled to force a player he traded for into the lineup, even when they're not performing. They have to earn it. I think that's what most fans want. 

[WhiteSox2023]

  On 3/1/2025 at 8:54 PM, WestEddy said:

I like the fact that Getz doesn't feel compelled to force a player he traded for into the lineup, even when they're not performing. They have to earn it. I think that's what most fans want. 

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Good point.  I still think Fletcher and Colas should have probably received more playing time last year, once it was obvious the season was lost.

[WhiteSox2023]

Wrong thread.

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[Dick Allen]

  On 3/1/2025 at 8:54 PM, WestEddy said:

I like the fact that Getz doesn't feel compelled to force a player he traded for into the lineup, even when they're not performing. They have to earn it. I think that's what most fans want. 

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No doubt. All those guys that played last year earned it. You didn’t used to work for the Iraqi military did you?

[caulfield12]

  On 3/1/2025 at 8:54 PM, WestEddy said:

I like the fact that Getz doesn't feel compelled to force a player he traded for into the lineup, even when they're not performing. They have to earn it. I think that's what most fans want. 

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Vargas lol?

[WestEddy]

  On 3/1/2025 at 11:04 PM, Dick Allen said:

No doubt. All those guys that played last year earned it. You didn’t used to work for the Iraqi military did you?

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That's pretty dumb.

[WestEddy]

  On 3/1/2025 at 11:07 PM, caulfield12 said:

Vargas lol?

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He's out of options. Do you actually think they should DFA him? That's pretty dumb, too. 

[caulfield12]

  On 3/1/2025 at 11:09 PM, WestEddy said:

He's out of options. Do you actually think they should DFA him? That's pretty dumb, too. 

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Doesn't mean they have to start him every single game unless he begins earning it.

I never said DFA him.

Not sure he would even be claimed by another team.  Maybe the Rockies or Marlins.

[WestEddy]

  On 3/1/2025 at 11:13 PM, caulfield12 said:

Doesn't mean they have to start him every single game unless he begins earning it.

I never said DFA him.

Not sure he would even be claimed by another team.  Maybe the Rockies or Marlins.

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Nobody's starting him every game. You're just making up BS to argue against. 

Perhaps you should expend more energy worrying about the Padres scoring runs at the same rate as the worst team in the game. 

[caulfield12]

  On 3/1/2025 at 11:15 PM, WestEddy said:

Nobody's starting him every game. You're just making up BS to argue against. 

Perhaps you should expend more energy worrying about the Padres scoring runs at the same rate as the worst team in the game. 

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You just argued Getz starts guys who earn it.

How exactly is that the case with Vargas?

That he HAS to play simply because of the lack of options?

Not the same thing.

[WestEddy]

  On 3/1/2025 at 11:19 PM, caulfield12 said:

You just argued Getz starts guys who earn it.

How exactly is that the case with Vargas?

That he HAS to play simply because of the lack of options?

Not the same thing.

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Can you explain the Vargas situation that is vexing you? I'm not sure I even know what you're talking about. I don't think you do, either. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

  On 3/1/2025 at 4:41 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

You sure make a big stink about what others say about this big stinky team.  It’s funny considering you are also the same guy who made numerous posts about James Outman and Stone Garrett during the 2022 offseason.

But I do agree with you — it’s stupid to play mid 30’s veterans in the outfield in what will be yet another 100 loss season rather than young outfielders.

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I never said that Hahn was an idiot for not making an attempt to get those guys over and ver that's the difference if your brain can not comprehend that.

Outman and Garrett were guys I thought were interesting players who were worth looking into acquiring after scouring some older AAA types.

If you ever did your own research to find players worth acquiring I might think you know something about baseball. Instead you try to say me talking about Outman and Garrett is the same as way you talk about everyone that comes and goes through the trash dumpster.

It's so weird that when you do your own research and scouting with only the best interest of the White Sox in mind without trashing the GM that you or anyone else would think it's the same as what you're doing.

The blowback I got for making those suggestions the off season after 2022 was because people thought those players were trash . Again weird because I was looking for undervalued assets so duh never said they were guaranteed to be any good but had qualities that were worth checking into . I also got blowback because they weren't likely to be traded. Also weird because again all I was doing was saying I like those guys and thought they'd be interesting to acquire IF possible. It was very confusing to me like wow people get really upset when you suggest a few players that look interesting . Like why are people so bent out of shape enough to tell me they suck or belittle the actual research I did on Outman about how fast he was and what a good OF he was and his hard work he put into revamping his swing to say I'm basing it on what he did in the small sample size when he came up. Of course that was only part of it not everything. Something has to catch your eye and make you delve into them more. Being out here in Dodger country and with the Sox always looking for a Rfers even then made him intriguing .

To put it into further context for you this wasafter after the Sox finished .500 and were playing Andrew Vaughn in LF who I hated out there . But of course  many here said the numbers say he was a decent Leftfielder. I'd always argue the numbers lied and I thought the rebuild had failed so was already looking at some younger guys. But many here were not ready to hear the rebuild was over and wanted better and not to take chances on nobodies hence the scorn. Apparently the Sox agreed with the masses and signed Benintendi after the New Year of 2023 that same offseason.  Things have really worked out  well since then haven't they ?

But yet you somehow can equate me liking those players at that point in time to you hating everything Getz does while under JRs thumb. Yikes talk about apples and oranges .