Lip Man 1 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I was told that because I started the first game thread and they won, that I have to start the next one. OK...here you go. Can they make it two straight to start the season????? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 5:30 AM, Lip Man 1 said: I was told that because I started the first game thread and they won, that I have to start the next one. OK...here you go. Can they make it two straight to start the season????? Expand Not counting on it with Cannon going, but we shall see. On paper, Soriano should have the advantage. Edited March 29 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:30 AM, Lip Man 1 said: I was told that because I started the first game thread and they won, that I have to start the next one. OK...here you go. Can they make it two straight to start the season????? Expand Sox are losing this one because of Lip’s complete lack of enthusiasm. 🤣 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 7:34 AM, caulfield12 said: Not counting on it with Cannon going, but we shall see. Expand Because he had a bad spring training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 10:37 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Because he had a bad spring training? Expand He didn't really have one strong/dominant outing all spring. If I was forced to bet on this one, I'd go with the Angels, simply because Soriano has a better overall track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I have never seen Soriano pitch, but apparently the dude has a nasty sinker that generates a fuckton of ground balls. He also appears to have pretty bad command and walks a decent amount of guys. I assume our 2-3-4 is set in stone for better or worse, but here’s how I’d like to see the rest of the lineup: Vargas, DH Robert, CF Benintendi, LF* Vaughn, 1B Sosa, 2B Baldwin, 3B# Thaiss, CA* Taylor, RF Maton, SS* Vargas moves to DH with Cannon on the mound, but bats leadoff again due to his double plus plate discipline and good straight line speed. Baldwin slots in at 3rd to give us the better glove and provide another bat from the left side who will make good swing decisions. Outside of the Sosa, the rest of the lineup is guys who bat lefty and/or draw walks. I’d feel much better with Tauchman in RF instead of Taylor, but alas the call comes down to Taylor or Slater (sorry Jankowski) and I’m going with the better glove in this case. I candidly don’t know much about Maton, but if the glove can play at SS he gets the start. If not, I’d be willing to go with Amaya at SS for defense with Cannon on the mound despite him unlikely to provide much value with the bat against a righty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 If the Sox are going to avoid a disastrous season, they have to get off to at least a decent start. It would be nice to be able to look at them as competitive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Is it odd to have 5 OFs on your roster and still be playing Brooks in RF? I mean, I’d rather see Brooks play but still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 3:17 PM, Bob Sacamano said: Is it odd to have 5 OFs on your roster and still be playing Brooks in RF? I mean, I’d rather see Brooks play but still. Expand Yeah, I found that odd too. Only game two, maybe Venable wants everyone to see action immediately is the only thinking I can come up with? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 3:17 PM, Bob Sacamano said: Is it odd to have 5 OFs on your roster and still be playing Brooks in RF? I mean, I’d rather see Brooks play but still. Expand On 3/29/2025 at 3:22 PM, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Yeah, I found that odd too. Only game two, maybe Venable wants everyone to see action immediately is the only thinking I can come up with? Expand Benintendi in LF, Maton at DH, and Baldwin in RF tells me we could use another outfielder even once Tauchman is healthy. Benintendi should primarily be at DH cuz his glove is so bad these days and Maton and Baldwin really have no business being at DH and RF respectively to start the second game if the season. Benintendi at DH and a Tauchman/Slater platoon in RF — fine. LF is the hole. Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 3:43 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: Benintendi in LF, Maton at DH, and Baldwin in RF tells me we could use another outfielder even once Tauchman is healthy. Benintendi should primarily be at DH cuz his glove is so bad these days and Maton and Baldwin really have no business being at DH and RF respectively to start the second game if the season. Expand Why does Baldwin have no business being in RF? That was his primary spot as a sophomore in college. With the log-jam in the IF, I’d 100% give him regular playing time in the OF. I just wasn’t sure if they’d actually do it, but you should be ecstatic. This is way better than giving at-bats to someone like Canario. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 3:47 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Why does Baldwin have no business being in RF? That was his primary spot as a sophomore in college. With the log-jam in the IF, I’d 100% give him regular playing time in the OF. I just wasn’t sure if they’d actually do it, but you should be ecstatic. This is way better than giving at-bats to someone like Canario. Expand I disagree. I’d prefer sluggers in the corners, not an infielder with mediocre pop playing RF. Either play Baldwin at SS over Amaya or send him down. Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 If we’re honest with ourselves, we should all hope for a massive tradeoff of vets and then rocking something like this post deadline: 1B: Sosa 2B: Meidroth SS: Montgomery 3B: Vargas LF: Ramos CF: TBD (Robert trade) RF: Baldwin DH: Quero CA: Teel The kids would all rotate around a ton, but those are the nine dudes I’d be giving all the at-bats to (CF would being a total wild card). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 3:53 PM, Chicago White Sox said: If we’re honest with ourselves, we should all hope for a massive tradeoff of vets and then rocking something like this post deadline: 1B: Sosa 2B: Meidroth SS: Montgomery 3B: Vargas LF: Ramos CF: TBD (Robert trade) RF: Baldwin DH: Quero CA: Teel The kids would all rotate around a ton, but those are the nine dudes I’d be giving all the at-bats to (CF would being a total wild card). Expand Baldwin has the ability to play CF right? I hope Vaughn is good enough to trade and Robert is healthy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 3:51 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: I disagree. I’d prefer sluggers in the corners, not an infielder with mediocre pop playing RF. Either play Baldwin at SS over Amaya or send him down. Expand Montgomery is going to be up in a couple of months. Where is Baldwin going to play then? There aren’t enough spots for all the 3B/2B types. And you’d rather give limited our at-bats to a highly limited, weak side platoon guy with massive contact issues whose prospect status has completely eroded vs. a strong all-around player with tons of versatility whose prospect status has skyrocketed? The odds of Canario ever being a key role player in the majors are very slim whereas Baldwin has poor man’s Zobrist potential (I know it’s an overdone cliche at this point but it’s true in the case) and a very high floor as a regular UT guy. If you want a prototypical RF with plus power, then go sign one in free agency when the time is right. Don’t try to fit a square peg in a round hole with a Canario type prospect. Invest in the better baseball player in Baldwin right now by giving the at-bats where a spot is open and find a different role for him later. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 4:01 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Montgomery is going to be up in a couple of months. Where is Baldwin going to play then? There aren’t enough spots for all the 3B/2B types. And you’d rather give limited our at-bats to a highly limited, weak side platoon guy with massive contact issues whose prospect status has completely eroded vs. a strong all-around player with tons of versatility whose prospect status has skyrocketed? The odds of Canario ever being a key role player in the majors are very slim whereas Baldwin has poor man’s Zobrist potential (I know it’s an overdone cliche at this point but it’s true in the case) and a very high floor as a regular UT guy. If you want a prototypical RF with plus power, then go sign one in free agency when the time is right. Don’t try to fit a square peg in a round hole with a Canario type prospect. Invest in the better baseball player in Baldwin right now by giving the at-bats where a spot is open and find a different role for him later. Expand I responded to your other post, but they should give him a run in CF when/if they trade Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 3:55 PM, Bob Sacamano said: Baldwin has the ability to play CF right? I hope Vaughn is good enough to trade and Robert is healthy enough. Expand He’s played a tiny amount of CF in his career, but I doubt he’s a guy you’d want out there everyday. As for Vaughn, I just think he gets DFAed at some point. I have more faith in Vargas & Sosa hitting and at some point the 1B/DH room will get crowded once the AAA reinforcements arrive. Edited March 29 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 4:01 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Montgomery is going to be up in a couple of months. Where is Baldwin going to play then? There aren’t enough spots for all the 3B/2B types. And you’d rather give limited our at-bats to a highly limited, weak side platoon guy with massive contact issues whose prospect status has completely eroded vs. a strong all-around player with tons of versatility whose prospect status has skyrocketed? The odds of Canario ever being a key role player in the majors are very slim whereas Baldwin has poor man’s Zobrist potential (I know it’s an overdone cliche at this point but it’s true in the case) and a very high floor as a regular UT guy. If you want a prototypical RF with plus power, then go sign one in free agency when the time is right. Don’t try to fit a square peg in a round hole with a Canario type prospect. Invest in the better baseball player in Baldwin right now by giving the at-bats where a spot is open and find a different role for him later. Expand I doubt Baldwin is anything more than a super utility guy and that’s his best case scenario. Why is Baldwin such a better prospect than Canario? Both guys are the same age while one guy at least has a plus tool of power which to me is worth seeing what he can do with it. Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I am mildly shocked that Amaya is at short every day. I guess the glove is pretty darn good, but a team that struggles to score giving up a line up spot every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 3:53 PM, Chicago White Sox said: If we’re honest with ourselves, we should all hope for a massive tradeoff of vets and then rocking something like this post deadline: 1B: Sosa 2B: Meidroth SS: Montgomery 3B: Vargas LF: Ramos CF: TBD (Robert trade) RF: Baldwin DH: Quero CA: Teel The kids would all rotate around a ton, but those are the nine dudes I’d be giving all the at-bats to (CF would being a total wild card). Expand Sosa at 1B is a little weird. Not your prototypical power guy at 1B but I don’t see where else he could play if he pans out. Do we know if Vargas or Ramos is better defensively at 3B yet or are you just sticking Vargas at 3B because that’s what the Sox have chosen for now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 4:16 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: I doubt Baldwin is anything more than a super utility guy and that’s his best case scenario. Why is Baldwin such a better prospect than Canario? Both guys are the same age while one guy at least has a plus tool of power which to me is worth seeing what he can do with it. Expand This post is wild to me. Canario is one of the worst contact hitters in all of baseball. His contact rate in AAA would have been the worst in the majors by two full percentage points. Why is that going to get better in the majors when he consistently faces quality pitching? You’ve become so attached to his power that you have ignored that he brings nothing else to the table. When he was DFAed by the Cubs, not one of 29 GMs was willing to trade a prospect for him. Meanwhile, Brooks Baldwin is an extremely versatile player who provides good defense all over the field. Offensively he’s well rounded with solid tools across the board. However, the kid is just a pure “baseball player” and maximizes his physical ability. If you watched him in AA last year, he just has that “it” factor as a hitter. You say his ceiling is a super utility guy, I’d argue that’s his floor. If we gave him everyday at-bats I see him being a ~1.5 win player at minimum. If he can grow into a bit more power and become just a bit more disciplined at the plate, I could see a guy who is a 2.5 to 3.0 win player who effectively serves as your 10th man rotating across the field on an everyday basis. Having a guy like that is super fucking valuable…he’s basically a Dodgers prototype prospect. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 4:31 PM, Timmy U said: I am mildly shocked that Amaya is at short every day. I guess the glove is pretty darn good, but a team that struggles to score giving up a line up spot every day. Expand Amaya has flashed some potential against LHP in the minors, so he should get all those starts until a better option comes along. And I can see him getting the start today with Cannon on the mound. His groundball rate wasn’t great for the Sox last year, but that goes against his arsenal and minor league track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 4:31 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: Sosa at 1B is a little weird. Not your prototypical power guy at 1B but I don’t see where else he could play if he pans out. Do we know if Vargas or Ramos is better defensively at 3B yet or are you just sticking Vargas at 3B because that’s what the Sox have chosen for now? Expand I agree that Sosa isn’t a prototypical 1B, but we should be giving at-bats to the guys who have a chance to be future major leaguers regardless of long-term spot. If Sosa proves he can hit, he can become a trade asset for a team that’s in need of a 2B if we don’t have an ideal spot for him. As for Vargas, I think they are just committed to him there. Ramos is certainly the better defensive 3B, but he’s still got to prove himself offensively before he will get a shot to take 3B from Miguel. I would certainly start working Ramos in the OF to give him more versatility and allow him an opportunity for more major league at-bats down the road. It’s going to be very tough for the 2B & 3B types to get playing time if they can’t rotate around elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I’d rather let Sosa stick at 2B and see if he can become a plus player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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