WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:02 PM, fathom said: I’d rather let Sosa stick at 2B and see if he can become a plus player. Expand Someone doesn’t think much of Meidroth… 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 4:08 PM, Chicago White Sox said: He’s played a tiny amount of CF in his career, but I doubt he’s a guy you’d want out there everyday. As for Vaughn, I just think he gets DFAed at some point. I have more faith in Vargas & Sosa hitting and at some point the 1B/DH room will get crowded once the AAA reinforcements arrive. Expand Plus you have Elko as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 4:44 PM, Chicago White Sox said: This post is wild to me. Canario is one of the worst contact hitters in all of baseball. His contact rate in AAA would have been the worst in the majors by two full percentage points. Why is that going to get better in the majors when he consistently faces quality pitching? You’ve become so attached to his power that you have ignored that he brings nothing else to the table. When he was DFAed by the Cubs, not one of 29 GMs was willing to trade a prospect for him. Meanwhile, Brooks Baldwin is an extremely versatile player who provides good defense all over the field. Offensively he’s well rounded with solid tools across the board. However, the kid is just a pure “baseball player” and maximizes his physical ability. If you watched him in AA last year, he just has that “it” factor as a hitter. You say his ceiling is a super utility guy, I’d argue that’s his floor. If we gave him everyday at-bats I see him being a ~1.5 win player at minimum. If he can grow into a bit more power and become just a bit more disciplined at the plate, I could see a guy who is a 2.5 to 3.0 win player who effectively serves as your 10th man rotating across the field on an everyday basis. Having a guy like that is super fucking valuable…he’s basically a Dodgers prototype prospect. Expand Omg...he's our next Leury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:08 PM, caulfield12 said: Plus you have Elko as well. Expand Career minor leaguer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:09 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: Career minor leaguer. Expand Sure he could be another Palka...but we already know exactly what Vaughn is and isn't. Guess Fuller will have his own takes. Strider will be a big test for all our AAA hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 4:44 PM, Chicago White Sox said: This post is wild to me. Canario is one of the worst contact hitters in all of baseball. His contact rate in AAA would have been the worst in the majors by two full percentage points. Why is that going to get better in the majors when he consistently faces quality pitching? You’ve become so attached to his power that you have ignored that he brings nothing else to the table. When he was DFAed by the Cubs, not one of 29 GMs was willing to trade a prospect for him. Meanwhile, Brooks Baldwin is an extremely versatile player who provides good defense all over the field. Offensively he’s well rounded with solid tools across the board. However, the kid is just a pure “baseball player” and maximizes his physical ability. If you watched him in AA last year, he just has that “it” factor as a hitter. You say his ceiling is a super utility guy, I’d argue that’s his floor. If we gave him everyday at-bats I see him being a ~1.5 win player at minimum. If he can grow into a bit more power and become just a bit more disciplined at the plate, I could see a guy who is a 2.5 to 3.0 win player who effectively serves as your 10th man rotating across the field on an everyday basis. Having a guy like that is super fucking valuable…he’s basically a Dodgers prototype prospect. Expand That would actually be Greg Jones with a 34% strikeout rate in the minors, whom our GM just acquired. Canario is at around a 26% strikeout rate in the minors. Like I said, he could bust but I’d like to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 5:12 PM, caulfield12 said: Sure he could be another Palka...but we already know exactly what Vaughn is and isn't. Guess Fuller will have his own takes. Strider will be a big test for all our AAA hitters. Expand Another Palka? Another -1.0 WAR player in 500 career at bats? Heh, I’ll pass. Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:02 PM, fathom said: I’d rather let Sosa stick at 2B and see if he can become a plus player. Expand My post was referring to the lineup after the trade deadline and once all the AAA reinforcements are up. Sosa should be playing 2B most days until the infield situation gets more crowded. I do see him losing significant playing time there once Montgomery & Meidroth are both up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:07 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: Someone doesn’t think much of Meidroth… 😉 Expand Fathom is definitely the low man on Chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Fun game thread already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 5:19 PM, Chicago White Sox said: My post was referring to the lineup after the trade deadline and once all the AAA reinforcements are up. Sosa should be playing 2B most days until the infield situation gets more crowded. I do see him losing significant playing time there once Montgomery & Meidroth are both up. Expand If Sosa breaks out, I’m not so sure he is losing playing time to Meidroth. But I have no idea what the Sox would do to figure out that situation with Sosa/Meidroth, and I’m not sure 1B would be the answer. I guess it would be a good problem to have. Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:09 PM, Ducksnort said: Omg...he's our next Leury Expand Are you ripping Baldwin for being versatile? Because there is nothing else in common between him and Leury as baseball players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:21 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Are you ripping Baldwin for being versatile? Because there is nothing else in common between him and Leury as baseball players. Expand Both switch hitters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:13 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: That would actually be Greg Jones with a 34% strikeout rate in the minors, whom our GM just acquired. Canario is at around a 26% strikeout rate in the minors. Like I said, he could bust but I’d like to find out. Expand He was over 30% in AAA last year. He’s not as bad as Jones, but he also brings nothing else to the table but power and has no options. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not supporting the Jones pickup. I’m just arguing that Canario is a highly flawed prospect whereas Baldwin is super fucking underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:22 PM, Bob Sacamano said: Both switch hitters. Expand Both are more known for speed and versatility than power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 5:24 PM, Chicago White Sox said: He was over 30% in AAA last year. He’s not as bad as Jones, but he also brings nothing else to the table but power and has no options. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not supporting the Jones pickup. I’m just arguing that Canario is a highly flawed prospect whereas Baldwin is super fucking underrated. Expand I get it. He strikes out a lot. All power hitters do. With massive power comes strikeouts. Can he improve? Maybe? If players can’t, Wolkow is already a bust with his 40% strikeout rate. I have also heard differing opinions on Canario’s defense. He did play some CF but I know his injuries may have diminished some of his defensive ability. Once again, I have stated this numerous times. If the Sox were a .500 team and had any shot of competing, I would never suggest adding the guy. But this team has the flexibility to give at bats to a project, as they are expected to be one of the worst teams in baseball and are currently playing relics in their corner outfield. For a team and two GM’s in a row that have failed to find a corner OF power bat for years, I find it funny that people are appalled by the idea of trying the guy in what will be another shitshow season. If he sucks, who cares? So did Colas, DeLoach, and Fletcher… Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I don't see why Ramos should have a spot over Baldwin or Vargas. Or Canario for that matter, in event Sox pick him up. Maybe I'm missing something with Ramos, but he didn't look very good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 5:21 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Are you ripping Baldwin for being versatile? Because there is nothing else in common between him and Leury as baseball players. Expand Hey, I loved me some Leury Legend. No ripping going on here. However, as already mentioned they are both switch hitters, both primarily contact guys, both platoon (Brooks likely to be anyway). Although I think Baldwin as a lot more upside Edited March 29 by Ducksnort 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/29/2025 at 5:28 PM, 46DidIt said: I don't see why Ramos should have a spot over Baldwin or Vargas. Or Canario for that matter, in event Sox pick him up. Maybe I'm missing something with Ramos, but he didn't look very good to me Expand Good point. Some people bashing Canario like crazy but have Ramos and his sub-.800 OPS already targeted to start in LF. Edited March 29 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:13 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: That would actually be Greg Jones with a 34% strikeout rate in the minors, whom our GM just acquired. Canario is at around a 26% strikeout rate in the minors. Like I said, he could bust but I’d like to find out. Expand You keep bringing Greg Jones in as a comparison, but he really isn't. His main carrying tool is his speed. The reports express a belief that his defense in CF can be elite. If the hitting coaches can do with him what they're trying with Wolkow (ease up on the power swing a bit to have more control) you have a valuable bench piece. The most valuable thing about Jones right now is that last option that allows the Sox to work with him at AAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:45 PM, WestEddy said: You keep bringing Greg Jones in as a comparison, but he really isn't. His main carrying tool is his speed. The reports express a belief that his defense in CF can be elite. If the hitting coaches can do with him what they're trying with Wolkow (ease up on the power swing a bit to have more control) you have a valuable bench piece. The most valuable thing about Jones right now is that last option that allows the Sox to work with him at AAA. Expand So why can our coaches help 27 year old Greg Jones with his even worse strikeout rate but not help 24 year old Canario with his? We do have hitting coaches on the big league club as well, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Why is every thread on this board suddenly about Canario? Maybe he’s gonna be good or bad but he’s hardly the most important story in mlb. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:56 PM, Timmy U said: Why is every thread on this board suddenly about Canario? Maybe he’s gonna be good or bad but he’s hardly the most important story in mlb. Expand Cuz @Chicago White Sox brought his name up first on the first page of this game thread. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 5:54 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: So why can our coaches help 27 year old Greg Jones with his even worse strikeout rate but not help 24 year old Canario with his? We do have hitting coaches on the big league club as well, right? Expand It's almost like a baseball team would rather work with a guy who has minor league options and can be groomed as an emergency 4th OF replacement with elite speed and defense instead of picking up another player who must go on the major league roster and then work on his chase rates and middling defense against the best players in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 11 pitch leadoff single. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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