fathom Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 2:30 AM, wegner said: If Getz is not the worst evaluator of talent in the league, he's got to be in the top 3. Where the hell is the Fire Getz thread?? Expand Nothing else matters if you can’t evaluate talent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 2:34 AM, southsider2k5 said: You can go for the OG, or you can even start a clean 2025 version. Expand Had to go with the OG....history is important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 There's not much evidence to support Hahn either...but he at least had Crochet Rodon Giolito Cease Reynaldo, and Luis Robert through the end of 2023. Free agency success rate was abysmal, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) On 4/6/2025 at 8:15 PM, Tomtom said: I don’t see this team winning more than 30 games this season. They are an embarrassment. Expand If they wind up with only around 30 wins then the Commissioner should step in and force JR to sell much the same way that Charlie Finley was not allowed to complete a trade where he traded away most of the Oakland A’s back in 1976 citing as it wasn’t in the best interest of Baseball. It’s obvious the Sox are again fielding a AAA team with JR refusing to spend money and put together a competitive club which upsets the competitive balance in the game, if this isn’t a detriment and not in the best interest to the game, I don’t know what is. Edited April 7 by The Mighty Mite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 10:00 AM, The Mighty Mite said: If they wind up with only around 30 wins then the Commissioner should step in and force JR to sell much the same way that Charlie Finley was not allowed to complete a trade where he traded away most of the Oakland A’s back in 1976 citing as it wasn’t in the best interest of Baseball. It’s obvious the Sox are again fielding a AAA team with JR refusing to spend money and put together a competitive club which upsets the competitive balance in the game, if this isn’t a detriment and not in the best interest to the game, I don’t know what is. Expand The Sox are designed to lose over 100 games. So at least make it more entertaining like the Washington Generals did or maybe like Bill Veeck often tried to do. Replacing winning with laughter. Put a midget at DH and use position players to pitch after the 5th inning. Get another Andy the clown to entertain the fans. It is a joke now but at least make it a fun joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 10:00 AM, The Mighty Mite said: If they wind up with only around 30 wins then the Commissioner should step in and force JR to sell much the same way that Charlie Finley was not allowed to complete a trade where he traded away most of the Oakland A’s back in 1976 citing as it wasn’t in the best interest of Baseball. It’s obvious the Sox are again fielding a AAA team with JR refusing to spend money and put together a competitive club which upsets the competitive balance in the game, if this isn’t a detriment and not in the best interest to the game, I don’t know what is. Expand 30 or so wins is not enough for the Commish to take those steps. Charley Finley went a step further than just losing. He sold some of his best players (Joe Rudi was one) to Boston for cash. That did it. The Commish at least reversed those trades. There is another parallel in the NBA. Years ago, Cleveland was owned by Ted Sepian, who, for some reason was beholden to Jerry Buss, and Sepian gave away Number 1 Draft picks for some slug named Dan Ford. One of those turned into either James Worthy or Magic Johnson. Can't remember. The Commish stepped in and got rid of Sepian, but the trades stood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 .....and the Press under-reported it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 3:05 PM, oldsox said: 30 or so wins is not enough for the Commish to take those steps. Charley Finley went a step further than just losing. He sold some of his best players (Joe Rudi was one) to Boston for cash. That did it. The Commish at least reversed those trades. There is another parallel in the NBA. Years ago, Cleveland was owned by Ted Sepian, who, for some reason was beholden to Jerry Buss, and Sepian gave away Number 1 Draft picks for some slug named Dan Ford. One of those turned into either James Worthy or Magic Johnson. Can't remember. The Commish stepped in and got rid of Sepian, but the trades stood. Expand Magic Johnson went to the Lakers after they won the coin flip with the Bulls for the #1 draft pick in 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I know I’ve made this comment for a few years, but after being around probably 20 pct of males with White Sox hats on at travel tournaments around Chicago two years ago, I didn’t see a single one this past weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 2:22 AM, fathom said: Next to nothing? It’s not that they tried to improve, they were made significantly worse. The scary thing about all of this is there are really no assets to trade to acquire more talent. Getz completely shitting the bed on the Cease and Fedde trades is so easily excused by so many. Expand huh? I agree he s%*# the bed but certain posters around here complaining about these two trades ALL THE TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 3:05 PM, oldsox said: 30 or so wins is not enough for the Commish to take those steps. Charley Finley went a step further than just losing. He sold some of his best players (Joe Rudi was one) to Boston for cash. That did it. The Commish at least reversed those trades. There is another parallel in the NBA. Years ago, Cleveland was owned by Ted Sepian, who, for some reason was beholden to Jerry Buss, and Sepian gave away Number 1 Draft picks for some slug named Dan Ford. One of those turned into either James Worthy or Magic Johnson. Can't remember. The Commish stepped in and got rid of Sepian, but the trades stood. Expand It was Worthy in ‘82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 5:48 PM, JTB said: It was Worthy in ‘82. Expand Crazy thing if they get Worthy in 82, they almost certainly don't get MJ after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I would love to see the league take over this failed franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 5:49 PM, southsider2k5 said: Crazy thing if they get Worthy in 82, they almost certainly don't get MJ after that. Expand You're talking Bulls; we were talking Lakers/Cleveland tainted trade, which led to Cleveland owner getting shitcanned by the Commish, which won't happen with Jerry, which is what another poster recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 5:22 PM, fathom said: I know I’ve made this comment for a few years, but after being around probably 20 pct of males with White Sox hats on at travel tournaments around Chicago two years ago, I didn’t see a single one this past weekend. Expand I was at Disneyland last week and saw Sox hats more than any other team except LAD, NYY, and SDP. It was shocking. I didn’t see a single cubs hat (saw a couple shirts) and I think I saw maybe two (lol) angels hats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 My rule no night games until May 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 6:18 PM, oldsox said: You're talking Bulls; we were talking Lakers/Cleveland tainted trade, which led to Cleveland owner getting shitcanned by the Commish, which won't happen with Jerry, which is what another poster recommended. Expand Magic was '79. The Bulls lost the coin flip to the Lakers for the #1 pick that year. Bird would've been 2nd, but the NBA had "draft and follow" rules back then and drafted Bird in '78 and signed him the night before the '79 draft. Just another layer to how lucky JR was to have Jordan land in his lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 7:23 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I was at Disneyland last week and saw Sox hats more than any other team except LAD, NYY, and SDP. It was shocking. I didn’t see a single cubs hat (saw a couple shirts) and I think I saw maybe two (lol) angels hats. Expand I don’t doubt it, as I see them all the time on TV at NBA games in other cities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/7/2025 at 8:25 PM, fathom said: I don’t doubt it, as I see them all the time on TV at NBA games in other cities. Expand Yea it's a strong cultural icon. It's Dodger hats, Yankee hats, Sox and Tiger hats nationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/7/2025 at 6:18 PM, oldsox said: You're talking Bulls; we were talking Lakers/Cleveland tainted trade, which led to Cleveland owner getting shitcanned by the Commish, which won't happen with Jerry, which is what another poster recommended. Expand The pick was originally traded to the Mavs. Dallas traded it to the Lakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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