The Critic Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1669704 He needs a kidney transplant and will retire from the NBA. He was a good enough player, but the promise is left unfulfilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 I bet Kenyon Martin feels like a dickhead now after the fight they just had in practice last week, where he made fun of Zo's kidney ailment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Wow...I hope Mourning responds well to the transplant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Out of curiousity... I know that Zo signed a 4 year $22 million deal. Will he still get paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 I'm assuming the Nets had interest...but he will be paid. They'll probably get an injury excemption from the NBA next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Guess they should of kept Mutumbo now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 God, K-Mart and Jefferson are gay. They were making fun of him at practice. That is so gay, the dude could die or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 It's like the whole Jayson Williams situation all ova again for da Nets. I gotta feeling Byron Scott could be outta there soon if they don't turn it around quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Out of curiousity... I know that Zo signed a 4 year $22 million deal. Will he still get paid? From ESPN, Q: Are the Nets obligated to pay Mourning the full $22 million on his contract? A: Yes. If you'll recall, when Mourning was negotiating with Dallas Mavericks and New Jersey in the off-season, he insisted on a fully guaranteed four-year deal without granting interested teams a physical related to his kidney condition. NBA insurance policies generally start paying teams 80 percent of a player's salary after the player misses 41 games in a row because of the same injury. Yet it is almost impossible for teams to secure insurance for pre-existing medical conditions like Mourning's. Meaning the Nets would have had few options beyond paying extra (and highly expensive) premiums to secure the added insurance required to cover another kidney failure, since Mourning was suffering from focal segmental glomerulosclerosis long before signing with the Nets. Q: Is there any scenario where the Nets' financial loss could be reduced? A: The circumstances here are unique, but Mourning is entitled, if he chooses, to waive the salary protection on part or all of his Nets contract. This would "unguarantee" whatever amount Mourning agreed to, but it is not yet known if Mourning is willing to forfeit any portion of the deal. Far-fetched as it sounds, it's not inconceivable that a player in Mourning's position would volunteer not to collect the full amount, on the premise that he was physically unable to complete even one of the four seasons on the deal. If Mourning does wind up collecting the full $22 million, New Jersey will have paid him more than $1.8 million per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 From ESPN, Q: Are the Nets obligated to pay Mourning the full $22 million on his contract? A: Yes. If you'll recall, when Mourning was negotiating with Dallas Mavericks and New Jersey in the off-season, he insisted on a fully guaranteed four-year deal without granting interested teams a physical related to his kidney condition. NBA insurance policies generally start paying teams 80 percent of a player's salary after the player misses 41 games in a row because of the same injury. Yet it is almost impossible for teams to secure insurance for pre-existing medical conditions like Mourning's. Meaning the Nets would have had few options beyond paying extra (and highly expensive) premiums to secure the added insurance required to cover another kidney failure, since Mourning was suffering from focal segmental glomerulosclerosis long before signing with the Nets. Q: Is there any scenario where the Nets' financial loss could be reduced? A: The circumstances here are unique, but Mourning is entitled, if he chooses, to waive the salary protection on part or all of his Nets contract. This would "unguarantee" whatever amount Mourning agreed to, but it is not yet known if Mourning is willing to forfeit any portion of the deal. Far-fetched as it sounds, it's not inconceivable that a player in Mourning's position would volunteer not to collect the full amount, on the premise that he was physically unable to complete even one of the four seasons on the deal. If Mourning does wind up collecting the full $22 million, New Jersey will have paid him more than $1.8 million per game. Wow it sucks to be New Jersey. That was an expensive risk, and I can't believe anyone would pay that kind of money for a guy who you couldn't recoup your losses from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Now a bunch of people have come forward to offer to donate kindney's to Zo. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1671515 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 In Portland, they are saying that the Blazers should trade Bonzi Wells to New Jersey for Alonzo's contract, just for the salary cap room. That would be interesting. Throw Rasheed and K-Mart in that trade and I would do it from a Blazers perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 In Portland, they are saying that the Blazers should trade Bonzi Wells to New Jersey for Alonzo's contract, just for the salary cap room. That would be interesting. Throw Rasheed and K-Mart in that trade and I would do it from a Blazers perspective. Does New Jersey need a guy like Wells? He has been all kinds of problems, and the Nets have had plenty of infighting. I don't think they look at a guy like Bonzi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Does New Jersey need a guy like Wells? He has been all kinds of problems, and the Nets have had plenty of infighting. I don't think they look at a guy like Bonzi. Probably not, but I've heard that they are interested in Rasheed, and he and Bonzi's act have grown tired in Portland. I don't know of anyone that would WANT Bonzi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Probably not, but I've heard that they are interested in Rasheed, and he and Bonzi's act have grown tired in Portland. I don't know of anyone that would WANT Bonzi. Wells has been in trouble all of the way back to HS. (Wells went to Muncie Central HS in IN and Ball St U) It doesn't surprise me that he has had as many problems as he has had. Same with Zach Randolph. I actually first met him his sophomore year at Marion HS in IN. I know knew his HS coach really well. Both of those kids got away with murder (almost literally ) back then and never had to grow up, and now it is biting them in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Wells has been in trouble all of the way back to HS. (Wells went to Muncie Central HS in IN and Ball St U) It doesn't surprise me that he has had as many problems as he has had. Same with Zach Randolph. I actually first met him his sophomore year at Marion HS in IN. I know knew his HS coach really well. Both of those kids got away with murder (almost literally ) back then and never had to grow up, and now it is biting them in the ass. What did Zach do? I hope he doesn't get f***ed up because he is the future of this organization. I know that he already has 1 DUI since joining the Jail Breakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 What did Zach do? I hope he doesn't get f***ed up because he is the future of this organization. I know that he already has 1 DUI since joining the Jail Breakers. Zach was arrested twice in HS. The big charge was running guns for a gang IIRC (somekind of weapons charge) but they pleaded that out, and he got off pretty easy. His biggest problem is he has been told how awesome he is for so long by so many people that his work ethic has always been in question, as well as doing the right things. Sounds like not much has changed judging by him punching out a teammate last year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 It's an interestin dilemma for John Nash (GM of da Trail Blazers). Do u rebuild ur team around Randolph or keep Wallace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 It's an interestin dilemma for John Nash (GM of da Trail Blazers). Do u rebuild ur team around Randolph or keep Wallace? I would rebuild it around Randolph. People around here are tired of Sheed, (at least the fans that count, the ones who are going, or not going, to the games) and people are really high on Randolph. He is a very good player, but hopefully he can stay in shape, because he is a little heavy as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 The Nets are on the hook for the full amount of Zo's $22.6 mil. They were unable to have the contract insured. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1672599 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 I would rebuild it around Randolph. People around here are tired of Sheed, (at least the fans that count, the ones who are going, or not going, to the games) and people are really high on Randolph. He is a very good player, but hopefully he can stay in shape, because he is a little heavy as is. Its kinda funny that we just had this conversation, but guess who got arrested from Portland... http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-t...ov=ap&type=lgns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 'Zo used to a difference maker, one of the beter all-around players in the NBA. RIR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Its kinda funny that we just had this conversation, but guess who got arrested from Portland... http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-t...ov=ap&type=lgns No kidding. What a joke. Although, he had a career game the night after all this. Interesting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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