DBAHO Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 From MLB.com White Sox: With Jon Garland's signing this week to a $2.3 million, one-year deal, the White Sox rotation now is set with Loaiza, Garland and Mark Buehrle, who is also arbitration-eligible. Scott Schoeneweis is expected to be the fourth starter, with GM Kenny Williams looking for a pitcher at the top of the rotation to replace Colon. The White Sox's three-year, $36 million offer to Colon was rebuffed. Garland, the enigmatic 24-year-old right-hander, avoided arbitration Monday with his signing, a salary bump from $375,000 last season. Garland posted a 12-13 record, matching a career high in victories, with a 4.51 earned-run average in 2003. Garland also finished with 18 quality starts in 32 trips to the mound. But his numbers were virtually unchanged from 2002 and, once again, he started slowly. Garland had a 2-3 record with a 6.88 ERA during his first seven starts and was 10-10 with a 3.97 ERA during his final 25. Interesting, I've heard various reports sayin KW ain't gonna offa him arbitration to save some more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Well, it sounds like Schoene is the #4 starter for now, but I'm banking on someone FA being brought in here to bump Schoene back to #5, wher he was told he'd get a shot in 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Scott Scheoneweis, Expected to be Fourth Starter for now Ughh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Ughh Double Ugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Double Ugh! Let me top that with a :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Well, it sounds like Schoene is the #4 starter for now, but I'm banking on someone FA being brought in here to bump Schoene back to #5, wher he was told he'd get a shot in 2004. With this tidbit, I don't expect the Sox to do much in the FA market now. Between that and raising prices, I'd be surprised to see much more than 15K on an average night at the park. I hope I am wrong about this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I know! Let's add Cotts and then have 3 left handed finess pitcher on the staff! We'll catch everyone off guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I know! Let's add Cotts and then have 3 left handed finess pitcher on the staff! We'll catch everyone off guard. works for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I say we go all out and make him our ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Scott Schoeneweis is expected to be the fourth starter This team is a f***ing joke. The Sox better make a major move. I'm beginning to think that their livelyhood in Chicago will depend on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I know! Let's add Cotts and then have 3 left handed finess pitcher on the staff! We'll catch everyone off guard. To be fair, Scheoneweis is more of a power pitcher than a finess pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Scho is definately a power pitcher. That article seems to mention one of two things. That Scho will be the 4th because Garland is now the 5th. Or that the Sox aren't going to go after anyone, but it mentions how KW is looking for a top of the rotation guy, which would obviously bump him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Isn't everybody forgetting about Paniagua? And Danny Wright? Cheer up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Isn't everybody forgetting about Paniagua? And Danny Wright? Cheer up!! Isn't Pantiagua loosely Spanish for "Wets his pants on the mound"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Isn't this article contradictory to its own self? It says Scho is #4 and then says Kenny is looking to replace Bart with a top of the rotation pitcher Which means Scho will get pushed down to #5.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Well, it sounds like Schoene is the #4 starter for now, but I'm banking on someone FA being brought in here to bump Schoene back to #5, wher he was told he'd get a shot in 2004. SchowenWrong souldn't even be in the Rotation.. Thanks Sox... :puke :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 and what are you basing that on? Unless #5's are supposed to win 15 games and give you 200 innings, Schoeneweis is capable of taking that fifth spot. Will he be effective? who knows, but he has the ability to be a strong #5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Sorry SchowenWrong makes me :puke :puke Just another proof this team is cheap and don't wanna win, Hey If Schowenweiss comes Through in the 5TH SPOT fine but he's not my preference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFan Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Right now I don't see anything wrong with him being the fifth starter. Who do we have at this moment? Never know he may surprise and do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Too bad Schoenweiss has a difficult time getting righthanders out..... IIRC. The White Sox are going to have to notify NASA before every Schoenweiss start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I Didn't say anything was wrong with Showenweiss. But i wouldn't settle for him in the Rotation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFan Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Well, with the people we have right now who would you like to see.? Excluding free agents and trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Sorry SchowenWrong makes me :puke :puke Just another proof this team is cheap and don't wanna win, Hey If Schowenweiss comes Through in the 5TH SPOT fine but he's not my preference He's not mine either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Too bad Schoenweiss has a difficult time getting righthanders out..... IIRC. The White Sox are going to have to notify NASA before every Schoenweiss start. To be fair: Schoeneweis vs. RHers: .275 AVG, .703 OPS Buehrle vs. RHers: .285 AVG, .762 OPS Garland vs. RHers: .234 AVG, .708 OPS Colon vs. RHers: .246 AVG, .699 OPS Granted he faced way few hitters, given that sample i'd say he's pretty capable of getting righthanders out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Schoen couldn't get anybody out last season, why do you guys expect 2004 to be any different. We gave up a great propect in Bittner for an overpaid slug who makes opposing hitters salivate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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