soxfan420 Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 say a 17 year old kid with no prior record gets busted for 5 pounds of bud. he graduated from school a year early and is a good kid. what type of punishment is that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjmarte Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Umm... I give up, what type of punishment did he get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted January 13, 2003 Author Share Posted January 13, 2003 idk thats y i asked this just happened to a good friend of mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Dont matter how smart he is or who he is, he's f***ed. 5lbs of pot is a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted January 13, 2003 Author Share Posted January 13, 2003 not the answer i was looking for you think his age might save him??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Nope...states love putting drug offenders in jail. 420, be careful what ya do and make sure you never sell the stuff. I'm far from a lawyer, but it just don't pay, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjmarte Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 I didn't know what you were asking at first. I agree with RPS. Five pounds is alot of brownies, hard to pass off as occasional/recreational use. My guess is that he will get some serious charges but if it is his first offense he could get lucky and just get probation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfficerKarkovice Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Well he's certainly no Nate Newton but 5 lbs. is quite a bit indeed. I'd have to agree with bjmarte tho and think that if this is his first offense and he had no intention of distribution then he may just get off with fines and probation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 not the answer i was looking for you think his age might save him??? If it's in Illinois, you're an adult at age 17..... according to the courts..... so he'll be charged as an adult. He's gonna be looking a County jail time no doubt. Whether he'll go to Stateville, Marion, or the like depends on his record. Look, your friend is a dumb asshole for having that much pot in the first place. 5 lbs? He's doing alot more than smoking it and, depending how he got caught, he might be looking at a possible additional charge of manufacture and/or intent to deliver/sale. The fact that he's a "good kid" who "graduated from school a year early" will have little bearing on the court based on the amount he had. Do the crime..... better be able to do the time. Tell your friend to invest in "chastity shorts" like Leslie Nielsen's in The Naked Gun movies..... he's probably gonna need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Young Porzio Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 he obviously cant be that good of a kid if he is going around with 5lbs of pot. If lucky, he will only get fines and probation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Well I think the fact that he graduated early shows that he's more mature and gives them more reason to try him as an adult. The key is its a first offense and the question is whether he had the intent to sell it. If he was gonna sell it, he's screwed plain and simple, or thats my take on the situation. Lol, Kark, I love the Nate Newton analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 have they charged him with anything yet???...until then its all speculation...wonder if he volunteered for drug rehab if it would help???... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 have they charged him with anything yet???...until then its all speculation...wonder if he volunteered for drug rehab if it would help???... With 5 lbs Baggio? I gotta party with you man. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 have they charged him with anything yet???...until then its all speculation...wonder if he volunteered for drug rehab if it would help???... With 5 lbs Baggio? I gotta party with you man. LOL lol....5 lbs...how do you fit 5 lbs of pot on your person???...wouldnt that be about a 30 gallon garbage bag??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 According to the National Organization Reforming Marijuana Laws (www.norml.org), the pot laws for IL are as follows with the fines being the maximum they can mandate. Possession 2.5 g or less misdemeanor 30 days* $1,500 2.5 to 10 g misdemeanor 6 months* $1,500 10 to 30 g misdemeanor 1 year* $2,500 30 to 500 g (first offense) felony 1 - 3 years $25,000 30 to 500 g (subsequent offense) felony 2 - 5 years $25,000 500 to 2,000 g felony 2 - 5 years $25,000 2,000 to 5,000 g felony 3 - 7 years $25,000 More than 5,000 g felony 4 - 15 years $25,000 *Eligible for 24 month probation with first conviction, dismissal of charges upon completion of probation. Sale or Trafficking -Casual delivery (without sale) see Possession 2.5 g or less misdemeanor 6 months $1500 2.5 - 10 g " 1 year $2500 10 - 30 g felony 1- 3 years $25000 30 - 500 g felony 2 - 5 years $50000 500 - 2000 g felony 3 - 7 years $100000 2000 - 5000 g felony 4 - 15 years $150000 more than 5000 g felony 6 - 30 years $200000 Any conviction can cause additional fine of full street value. For any first conviction for possession of less than 30 grams, cultivation of any amount or manufacture or delivery of less than fifty plants, the court can defer judgment, place the offender on probation for 24 months and upon successful completion of the probation the court can discharge the proceedings. Hope this information helps you out SoxFan420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Young Porzio Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 how many grams are in a pound, i feel stupid asking but i cant remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 how many grams are in a pound, i feel stupid asking but i cant remember? smoking too much??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 say a 17 year old kid with no prior record gets busted for 5 pounds of bud. he graduated from school a year early and is a good kid. what type of punishment is that??? if you play, then you pay. plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 2267.9618813 grams is 5 lbs. approximate (or so I believe) not 100% sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Holy s***, if they nail him for trafficking, he could get 15 years. Hed get out when hes 32. Thats an entire life gone to waste. But thats unlikely. You said hes a good kid so hopefully hell behave well and get maybe an 8 year sentence with possible parole at about 4 years. But I still wouldnt want to spend four years in the pen... Sorry soxfan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 He has got to get the money to pay a good criminal defense lawyer. I work in a law office in Michigan and our laws differ, but it is safe to presume that 5 pounds is not going to be considered "for personal use." The good lawyer can tell you if in Illinois you have the equivilant of what we have in Michigan. We would try to get him under two different provisions of the law. One allows a kid with no priors of any kind to go on extended probation and if he stays clean, the charges are dropped. the other is a specific drug statute that allows basically the same type of extended probation. Howver, 5 pounds is a lot of grass. The prosecutor may kind of want some info in exchange, such as exactly where your friend came up with 5 pounds. This is no time for honor among thieves. Your friend was a dumb ass to get involved with an amount of this size and while his unsavory companions may not want him talking, it is your friend's ass who will be in prison otherwise. And it depends on what county and how hard ass your states attorney is in that county. Key: pay the big $$$$$ and get a good criminal defense attorney. If probation is not possible (given the size of the bag) with good lawyering and luck and cooperation your guy might be sentenced to 1 year or less which should keep in the county jail which is a lot better than prison. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 i have to agree with cw here... we all know too well that our justice system is based on those who can pay always land with the "get out of jail" card... we know its not free but if you got the cash you can do the crime and get away with it.. just ask o.j...............better yet maybe ask him for his law teams #.........5 freakin pounds... what the f***....if your not going pass that out amoung friends then you deserve to get caught.. if for nothing else but being a bogart........lol....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Holy s***, if they nail him for trafficking, he could get 15 years. Hed get out when hes 32. Thats an entire life gone to waste. somehow i feel real old right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 you are. but then, so am I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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