LDF Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 found this on espn. i really don't have much to say. it pretty much says it. The theft of Ray Durham. On July 25, the A's fleeced the Chicago White Sox, acquiring Durham for minor league Jon Adkins. Durham's a middle infielder who hits for average and power, and has great plate discipline and speed. Jon Adkins has a live arm, but a completely uninspiring record when it comes to actually pitching, posting mediocre strikeout rates throughout his minor league career, and sporting an ERA in excess of 6 at Triple-A Sacramento at the time of the trade, with a tidy 139 hits allowed in 97 innings. To even up the deal, the White Sox threw in some cash. this was on the oak team page update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Still Oakland couldn't keep him. Didn't he sign with the Giants? You're right though, a typical horses*** KW trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Ya, he went to the Giants. Of course for every trade like that, their is also the great one he made where we moved Lofton for Felix Diaz, who is a true stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Ya, he went to the Giants. Of course for every trade like that, their is also the great one he made where we moved Lofton for Felix Diaz, who is a true stud. Lorenzo Barcelo also came out of the Giants system and was a true stud. Now he's a stud no where but....wait a second. He's not a stud anymore. I hope Diaz isn't that kind of stud....he's had injury problems in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Ya, he went to the Giants. Of course for every trade like that, their is also the great one he made where we moved Lofton for Felix Diaz, who is a true stud. Lorenzo Barcelo also came out of the Giants system and was a true stud. Now he's a stud no where but....wait a second. He's not a stud anymore. I hope Diaz isn't that kind of stud....he's had injury problems in the past. Well he has the potential to be the same. Barcelo is having a good season down in the Winter Leauges. A report on that should be on the main page tomorrow or Wednesday. We have it done, but are holding it off until the seasons officially end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Ya, he went to the Giants. Of course for every trade like that, their is also the great one he made where we moved Lofton for Felix Diaz, who is a true stud. If you are kinda saying nice about KW, I'd have to agree. I know a lot of people are really riled by him, and I am not exactly overjoyed by him, but I think he is still coming into his own as anyone does in a position life this. I think he will ok. As long as he never does anything as stupid as Schueler (sign Navarro over Clemems) I will like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Still Oakland couldn't keep him. Didn't he sign with the Giants? You're right though, a typical horses*** KW trade. At least we still have Adkins!!!!! Pfft..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Ya, he went to the Giants. Of course for every trade like that, their is also the great one he made where we moved Lofton for Felix Diaz, who is a true stud. If you are kinda saying nice about KW, I'd have to agree. I know a lot of people are really riled by him, and I am not exactly overjoyed by him, but I think he is still coming into his own as anyone does in a position life this. I think he will ok. As long as he never does anything as stupid as Schueler (sign Navarro over Clemems) I will like him. I'm just gonna stir the pot and ask here cwsox..... How long do we give KW before KW fans and those on the fence (like yourself) declare KW an imbecile and complete and utter failure as a GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Not until KW does anything as stupid as Schueler (sign Navarro over Clemems). Or depends on how this season goes, and why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 I hope Reinsdork doesn't stick with KW as long as he has with the bozo running the Bulls. I mean I'd love to get Colon ... but show us something, KW. Get him for nothing. Just do it. They are dying to get rid of him. Acquire him and give NOTHING in return. Give 3 minor leaguers we could care less about. Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 One comment...I hope one day that bozo in the Sox office has all the rings that the bozo in the Bulls office has Seriously though...Williams ain't as horrible as everyone says and he's probably not as great as I make him out to be (Not that I say he's the best gm out there) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 One comment...I hope one day that bozo in the Sox office has all the rings that the bozo in the Bulls office has Seriously though...Williams ain't as horrible as everyone says and he's probably not as great as I make him out to be (Not that I say he's the best gm out there) yeah well i would be happy if the one bozo had at least one of those rings the other bozo had............i mean geez us how much longer do we really have to wait???? ya know pretty soon they will feel sorry for us and just give us one like they gave that whats her face (the soap opera actress) the emmy......lol...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 15, 2003 Author Share Posted January 15, 2003 some gm would have been fired for a stupid trade that kw has made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 yeah some gm would .. but not our gm .......... go figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 15, 2003 Author Share Posted January 15, 2003 yeah some gm would .. but not our gm .......... go figure if we get mont players without giving up too much, i may have to say something nice about kw.................. oh what a prob i am going to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 yeah some gm would .. but not our gm .......... go figure if we get mont players without giving up too much, i may have to say something nice about kw.................. oh what a prob i am going to have. BIG PROB.... A VERY BIG PROB........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 15, 2003 Author Share Posted January 15, 2003 yeah some gm would .. but not our gm .......... go figure if we get mont players without giving up too much, i may have to say something nice about kw.................. oh what a prob i am going to have. BIG PROB.... A VERY BIG PROB........... oh that is going to be very hard. would this offset the screw ups he has done? only if we get both without giving up too much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 there isnt any way on this green earth that kw can off set the screw ups he has already made......not now not ever......not even if he got those two without it costing us anything.............just cant happen cause hes screwed up too much......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 some gm would have been fired for a stupid trade that kw has made. Almost all GM's would be given a couple years to see what they could do. Also, every gm, if given the chance, will make many many terrible moves..the key is outweighing them by the bad ones. KW just doesn't have the payroll to cover up the bad ones, so he has to be basically perfect for the Sox to go far. They don't have the option to offer a ton of contracts, like so many other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 jas please.. i like you alot... so stop defending the f*** up kw already ok.... spare yourself the depression..........i fully believe that kw is gone soon........i was told the other day that, i would be happy before the season starts....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 jas please.. i like you alot... so stop defending the f*** up kw already ok.... spare yourself the depression..........i fully believe that kw is gone soon........i was told the other day that, i would be happy before the season starts....... Please tell me that you're not just toying with my emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 jas please.. i like you alot... so stop defending the f*** up kw already ok.... spare yourself the depression..........i fully believe that kw is gone soon........i was told the other day that, i would be happy before the season starts....... I definately think he's going to be demoted to his old position if this season is a flop. If this seasons a flop, I see JR cleaning house and going with a different philosphy where he actually spends a bit and brings in real quality baseball guys as manager and gm, and actually spends a bit on the team, cleaning up his image. Hey, I can wish!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 jas please.. i like you alot... so stop defending the f*** up kw already ok.... spare yourself the depression..........i fully believe that kw is gone soon........i was told the other day that, i would be happy before the season starts....... Please tell me that you're not just toying with my emotions. i wouldnt toy with someones emotions like that..... not when it comes to kw anyhow.........and jas i dont know about even being demoted.. not unless they bring up whats his face... he seems to be doing a good job down there anyhow.... i would like to see kw just gone... completely gone....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 jas please.. i like you alot... so stop defending the f*** up kw already ok.... spare yourself the depression..........i fully believe that kw is gone soon........i was told the other day that, i would be happy before the season starts....... Please tell me that you're not just toying with my emotions. i wouldnt toy with someones emotions like that..... not when it comes to kw anyhow.........and jas i dont know about even being demoted.. not unless they bring up whats his face... he seems to be doing a good job down there anyhow.... i would like to see kw just gone... completely gone....... Well the guy that brought over from the Angels organization (Bob Fontaine?) is doing an awesome job. I here many say he was the guy who built the Angels farm system, which is one of the best in the majors as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 yeah that may be .. but i dont think we keep kw around for anything... who needs him.. maybe we can ship him there free of charge............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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