Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 ProSportDaily.com is reporting that Tom Gordon has signed with the Yankees, a 2 year contract for 7 million dollars, to be their setup man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 s*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 ProSportDaily.com is reporting that Tom Gordon has signed with the Yankees, a 2 year contract for 7 million dollars, to be their setup man. 2 years at 7 million a piece?! Talk about overpaid. Damn Yankees :fyou ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elcaballo45 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 ProSportDaily.com is reporting that Tom Gordon has signed with the Yankees, a 2 year contract for 7 million dollars, to be their setup man. I cant go to prosportdaily.com.... is the link something else, cause it wont go.... Post the link if you got it.... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 2 years at 7 million a piece?! Talk about overpaid. Damn Yankees :fyou ! I think that it is a total of $7 mil, not for each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Sometimes I have to repeat to myself many, Many times that MLB does not need a salary cap. Of course Tom Gordon's market value is 7 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 I think that it is a total of $7 mil, not for each year. SouthSider, I think you're right, although the story isn't exactly clear about that. I can't give a link, cause I don't know how. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 SouthSider, I think you're right, although the story isn't exactly clear about that. I can't give a link, cause I don't know how. Sorry. This is a link I just found http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yan...ports-headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Hey fellow Sox fans (masochists)! We lose another player...I guess the key question is, if Reinsdorf won't invest the necessary money into the team, why doesn't he sell it to someone who will??? I've been a Sox fan since 1972, but am considering bailing on them (don't worry, I'd NEVER be a cubs fan!). If they don't do anything to improve the team, "I gone!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Does this mean the Sox will for sure get a 1st round pick? I can never seem to get a handle on arbitration and the rest that needs to be done for a team to get compensation for losing free agents. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 We do get a pick for Gordon, but since our scouts have been "sooo successful" in building a farm sysytem (Ha!)...don't be too optimistic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 If this report becomes official and Gordon makes 7 million dollars over two seasons ($3.5M per) I have to wonder about the Sox desire to sign our own free agents. I don't think what Flash was asking for is so out of line especially when unofficial reports said he wanted $5M a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 If this report becomes official and Gordon makes 7 million dollars over two seasons ($3.5M per) I have to wonder about the Sox desire to sign our own free agents. I don't think what Flash was asking for is so out of line especially when unofficial reports said he wanted $5M a year. I think $3.5 million for 1 year would have been a no-brainer, but Gordon wanted $5 million for a 1-year deal. I think it's appropriate to be skepticl as to whether his arm is going to hold out for two years, but I would not have thought it imprudent if we had offered 2-years/7 million. Flash was an asset last year and now it's another hole that needs filling. I don't want to see Marte moved into the closer roll if Kotch remains a bust, and Gordon would have been the better fall back if/when we need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 I thought the unofficial report was that he wanted at least $5 for two years -- and the Sox waved him off on that. $3.5 million per for two seasons for a guy with Gordon's age and injury record is ridiculous for the Sox to consider. No way. If he would have re-upped with us -- and then injured his elbow in spring training (like he did for the Cubs in 2001, I believe), everybody would have jumped on Kenny Williams' throat. Besides, I thought the thing that was most important to Flash was the chance to 'Close' again. What's he going to close in New York, Mariano Rivera's suitcase? Better he close his mouth and stop lying -- 'cause he's all about the money, just like Bartolo and the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Say what you will but if it was announced that Steinbrenner bought the White Sox you could hear me cheering from here. The bullpen was as much a factor in our "1st Loser" position as anything else. I'm hoping that this means the club has some justification that Koch, instead of Botch will be with us next season. I wasn't a huge Flash fan, but thought he was as good as it got for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 We do get a pick for Gordon, but since our scouts have been "sooo successful" in building a farm sysytem (Ha!)...don't be too optimistic! did we offer Gordon arbitrartion? Because i think you only get a pick(s) if you offered the guy arbitration. And about our scouting and farm system, are you serious? We have had one of the better farm systems for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 I thought the unofficial report was that he wanted at least $5 for two years -- and the Sox waved him off on that. $3.5 million per for two seasons for a guy with Gordon's age and injury record is ridiculous for the Sox to consider. No way. If he would have re-upped with us -- and then injured his elbow in spring training (like he did for the Cubs in 2001, I believe), everybody would have jumped on Kenny Williams' throat. Besides, I thought the thing that was most important to Flash was the chance to 'Close' again. What's he going to close in New York, Mariano Rivera's suitcase? Better he close his mouth and stop lying -- 'cause he's all about the money, just like Bartolo and the rest. Or he just wants to be on a team that could win something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Or he just wants to be on a team that could win something so much for his "i want to be a closer" attitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 so much for his "i want to be a closer" attitude Heck it is a technique KW and JR would be proud of. You ask for something unreasonable, then you go somewhere else for less than what you said because you had no intention of coming back in the first place, but you just wanted to use the former as leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 so much for his "i want to be a closer" attitude I think the player agents probably have something to do with the final result. They can point out to the player how much more money they are getting to do whatever a specific team needs them to do, in the case the Yanks need a set up man, and everyone is happy especially the agent who gets a bigger pay check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Given Gordon's injuries, age and considering the Sox budget.....Then factor in his 2-year ERA (3.25), win-loss record (7-9) and save conversion rate (12 in 17 att). 2year/5 Mill TOPS Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Given Gordon's injuries, age and considering the Sox budget.....Then factor in his 2-year ERA (3.25), win-loss record (7-9) and save conversion rate (12 in 17 att). 2year/5 Mill TOPS Good riddance. have to agree I would say that 2 years at $5 would have been overpaying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 And about our scouting and farm system, are you serious? We have had one of the better farm systems for years As evidenced by what? Our prospects at 2nd base, shortstop, center field, first base, catcher (don't count Olivo, he was a trade)? I don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 As evidenced by what? Our prospects at 2nd base, shortstop, center field, first base, catcher (don't count Olivo, he was a trade)? I don't see it. i'd say Mark Beurhle in the 38th or whatever round was a pretty good find, Crede, Lee, and Maggs came up through our system, as did Rowand. Also, maybe not in the past 2 years or so but in the late '90s our farm system was consitently rated amongst the best. Did Cameron come through our system too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 They can have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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