SoxFanForever Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Was checkin Rotoworld and here are a few guys that signed contracts recently. Tigers declined to offer arbitration to infielder Shane Halter. Dodgers re-signed third baseman Robin Ventura to a one-year, $1.2 million contract. Mets declined to offer salary arbitration to RHP Pedro Astacio, first baseman Tony Clark and infielder Jay Bell. NHK and the Kyodo news agency of Japan are reporting that Kazuo Matsui will announce at a press conference tomorrow that he has decided to join the Mets. The Angels announced they would not offer salary arbitration to first baseman Scott Spiezio and outfielder Eric Owens. Giants signed outfielder Michael Tucker, who had been with the Royals, to a two-year, $3.5 million contract. Giants re-signed first baseman J.T. Snow to a one-year, $1.75 million contract with an option for 2005. Cubs re-signed second baseman Mark Grudzielanek to a one-year, $2.75 million contract with an option for 2005. Cubs re-signed outfielder Tom Goodwin to a one-year, $650,000 contract. The Cubs announced that they wouldn't offer arbitration to Shawn Estes, Antonio Alfonseca, Kenny Lofton and six other free agents.Cardinals re-signed RHP Cal Eldred to a one-year, $900,000 contract. Cardinals re-signed LHP Steve Kline to a one-year, $1.7 million contract. About a million more on Rotoworld. Here is the link. http://www.rotoworld.com/display1.asp?sport=MLB&page=news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Hopefully. the one at the bottom about the Sox and Guardado is true. That would be a major blow to the twins, not only losing Guardado, but to the most hated team of the Minnesota Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Mark Guthrie, Doug Glanville, Eric Karros, Troy O'Leary, Dave Veres and Tony Womack were the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 how nice would it be to have guardado, that would be so awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 how nice would it be to have guardado, that would be so awesome I think this would be a unanimous decision. Eddie might like it too! He wouldn't have to face Frank anymore! The black and white picture of Frank in my sig is from the walk off HR that Thomas hit off Guardado on July 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 how nice would it be to have guardado, that would be so awesome Yeah, just think how pissed off Twins fans would be, hell i'd trade PK and Koch just to sign Guardado, just to piss those fans off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Brian Cooper - S - San Francisco Giants Dec 6 Giants signed RHP Brian Cooper to a minor league contract. Cooper went 15-9 with a 3.68 ERA for Triple-A Charlotte last season. The former Angel and Blue Jay isn't anything more than a Triple-A pitcher, but he should help Fresno. Looks like we lost Coop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 if we could sign guardado, jsut think of how much bigger and better this rivalry will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 if we could sign guardado, jsut think of how much bigger and better this rivalry will get. I think this would just make it go crazy. The Twins our definitely our "Indians" in the 00's (Ha that sounds weird; what do we call this decade?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Pedro Astacio, if healthy, could end up being a steal for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I still don't see where the hell we would play Juan Gonzalez if we traded Maggs. IIRC, he doesn't have the arm to play RF, and unless he wants to learn how to play 1B, he ain't coming here unless Lee is dealt. It's a risky move. Lee is turning into a hell of a player, and it would be kind of hard to see him go. But if Juan Gone stayed healthy, it would be worth it in the end(assuming he put up the same numbers he did with the Indians). He is a hell of a player when healthy. About Guardado....yeah, it'd be sweet seeing him in a White Sox uniform. I think I love seeing Thomas hit huge ass bombs off of him more though. I think that was almost undoubtedly the best day of the season, by far. Second best probably would be Jose's walk-off against the Cubbies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I still don't see where the hell we would play Juan Gonzalez if we traded Maggs. IIRC, he doesn't have the arm to play RF, and unless he wants to learn how to play 1B, he ain't coming here unless Lee is dealt. It's a risky move. Lee is turning into a hell of a player, and it would be kind of hard to see him go. But if Juan Gone stayed healthy, it would be worth it in the end(assuming he put up the same numbers he did with the Indians). He is a hell of a player when healthy. About Guardado....yeah, it'd be sweet seeing him in a White Sox uniform. I think I love seeing Thomas hit huge ass bombs off of him more though. I think that was almost undoubtedly the best day of the season, by far. Second best probably would be Jose's walk-off against the Cubbies. I think if they picked up Juan Gonzalez they would be playing him left field (Lee playing 1st or traded) or they would be playing him at DH (With Thomas at first). Right field is not an option for him, imo. Right now I think the Sox probably just looked into it so they know whats out there in case Lee gets dealt. I don't think Kenny wants to deal Lee, but if he can't move Koch, get value for Maggs or move Konerko then he may have to move Lee so he can bring in the pitching he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I think if they picked up Juan Gonzalez they would be playing him left field (Lee playing 1st or traded) or they would be playing him at DH (With Thomas at first). Right field is not an option for him, imo. Right now I think the Sox probably just looked into it so they know whats out there in case Lee gets dealt. I don't think Kenny wants to deal Lee, but if he can't move Koch, get value for Maggs or move Konerko then he may have to move Lee so he can bring in the pitching he wants. Agreed. I'd never thought about that. We'd still need to get a RFer though....and would that not involve getting rid of Konerko as well? I mean, if you have Lee in LF, Thomas at 1B and Juan Gone DHing, there is no spot for Konerko. If we could trade him to LA for like one reliever(ala Mota or Shuey), and not have to pay a huge amount of salary, I'd be all for it. I'd much rather have a strong pen then a strong rotation, but in all reality, we could have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Dodgers re-signed third baseman Robin Ventura to a one-year, $1.2 million contract. Okay, I know I need to get over it, but I sure wish we could have gotten Robin back. I'd love for him to end his career with the Sox. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Well, lets start build lists of possible players to fill the Sox's needs: Antonio Osuna, i'd love to see him back Jeff Nelson Pedro Astacio, minor league deal or cheap Miguel Batista Also, if Maggs is dealt why not go after Vlad with the same kinda money they offered Maggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Well, lets start build lists of possible players to fill the Sox's needs: Antonio Osuna, i'd love to see him back Jeff Nelson Pedro Astacio, minor league deal or cheap Miguel Batista Also, if Maggs is dealt why not go after Vlad with the same kinda money they offered Maggs. Arthur Rhodes would be a nice addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Arthur Rhodes would be a nice addition. If the Sox's bring back Schoeneweis, Wunch, and Marte, i'll feel pretty good about our bullpen from the left side, but other than Koch and Wright we have nothing i feel good about from the right side. If Sullivan is brought back than were half way there, but a Osuna, Ligtenberg, or Nelson would make me feel much better than another lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Also, if Maggs is dealt why not go after Vlad with the same kinda money they offered Maggs. Maggs is due $14 million. He wasn't offered anything. The whole point of trading Maggs would be to use that money elsewhere, not just replace him with another player making the same amount. We would be no better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Maggs is due $14 million. He wasn't offered anything. The whole point of trading Maggs would be to use that money elsewhere, not just replace him with another player making the same amount. We would be no better off. The Sox's tried to offer Maggs an extension, but they were too far apart. I say give that money to Vlad (if possible) and trade Maggs for cheap pitching, maybe prospects. What the hell does it matter, nothing of this sort would ever happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 If the Sox's bring back Schoeneweis, Wunch, and Marte, i'll feel pretty good about our bullpen from the left side, but other than Koch and Wright we have nothing i feel good about from the right side. If Sullivan is brought back than were half way there, but a Osuna, Ligtenberg, or Nelson would make me feel much better than another lefty. True enough but I am still not a big fan of wunch. Another guy I like is Todd Worrell but he might get more attention with his success closing last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I think your thinking of Tim Worrell. Don't want Osuna Back... He'll give me a heartattack everytime he pitches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I think your thinking of Tim Worrell. Don't want Osuna Back... He'll give me a heartattack everytime he pitches You're right thanks for the correction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 If the Sox's bring back Schoeneweis, Wunch, and Marte, i'll feel pretty good about our bullpen from the left side, but other than Koch and Wright we have nothing i feel good about from the right side. If Sullivan is brought back than were half way there, but a Osuna, Ligtenberg, or Nelson would make me feel much better than another lefty. If the Sox aren't willing to pay Sully 3 mill, then there is no chance they will offer Scho 3 mill which is what it will take or I think thats about the minimum he can get. The Sox are gonna non tender him. I do agree it wouldn't be bad to trade Maggs, get cheap players that can contribute and have upside and then go out and sign Vladdy to bring the fans. You can get Vladdy for less then they are paying Maggs this year, if you ask me. Osuna Lightenberg Rhodes Benitez Definately some others as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I think your thinking of Tim Worrell. Don't want Osuna Back... He'll give me a heartattack everytime he pitches Worrel did a great job with the Giants, I'd have to think he'll get big bucks, but if he doesn't, he'd be a great pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 You're right thanks for the correction. Hey no problem, That's what were here for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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