greasywheels121 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 :banghead That one don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 f***. Were done, KW is again screwing us over. How is this KW's fault? Are you really that naive or just plain stupid? Bart is taking that offer over ours because ours has deferred money and less # of guaranteed years. Do you know Jerry Reinsdorf decides whether to give upfront money or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Good riddance, ya fat f***. I have trouble seeing this as a good thing. Sure this frees up a lot of salary, but what says we'll get anyone now. We didn't offer anyone else arb. I figured we'd at the least offer Sully arbitration. Our bullpen needs a massive makeover; Marte and sometimes Wunch are the only sure things in there right now. Our rotation now is Buerhle, Loaiza, Garland, Schoenweis, Wright?.....greeeeeeat..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 :puke Where's the pissed off, angry drinking smiley anyway? We sure need one. Maybe a kicking the dog smiley too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I have trouble seeing this as a good thing. Sure this frees up a lot of salary, but what says we'll get anyone now. We didn't offer anyone else arb. I figured we'd at the least offer Sully arbitration. Our bullpen needs a massive makeover; Marte and sometimes Wunch are the only sure things in there right now. Our rotation now is Buerhle, Loaiza, Garland, Schoenweis, Wright?.....greeeeeeat..... There are a few options out there. We will be fine. We can also make trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 And like Flax said, it doesnt really even free up any salery. We most likely wont see that money spent, or at least not nearly all of it. This just blows......In the period of a week we looked like a contender w/ a few question marks to a team just loaded w/ question marks and problems. We basically have a 3 man staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 relax we've got Josh Stewart, Corwin Malone and Ryan Wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 relax we've got Josh Stewart, Corwin Malone and Ryan Wing. Remember it's all about the draft Picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yep so we can draft Kip Wells II, Josh Fogg II and Jason Stumm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yep so we can draft Kip Wells II, Josh Fogg II and Jason Stumm So KW can trade them away for Todd Ritchie Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yep so we can draft Kip Wells II, Josh Fogg II and Jason Stumm Don't forget Corwin Malone, Jon Rauch, Scott Ruffcorn, Larry Thomas and COmpany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Don't forget Corwin Malone, Jon Rauch, Scott Ruffcorn, Larry Thomas and COmpany Yeah..... I get so excited at the prospect of getting a ton of 1st and 2nd round picks cheering for a team that drafted minor league pitching icons the likes of Scott Ruffcorn and Tanyon Sturtze :puke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yeah..... I get so excited at the prospect of getting a ton of 1st and 2nd round picks cheering for a team that drafted minor league pitching icons the likes of Scott Ruffcorn and Tanyon Sturtze :puke. LOL!!!! How about John Davis, Johnny Ruffin, Rodney Bolton, Ramon Garcia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 maybe Daddy Rabbit will pull something out of his hat at the Winter Meetings. Like a trade of one of our speedball sluggers for a legitimate starting pitcher. either that or they're dreamin that Rauch (who didn't get a September call-up), Cotts (roll video from yankee stadium) or Diaz is going to come through. Hey, James Baldwin is available. So is Parque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 either that or they're dreamin that Rauch (who didn't get a September call-up), Cotts (roll video from yankee stadium) or Diaz is going to come through. BINGO!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 There's a rumor Alex Fernandez could make a comeback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 There's a rumor Alex Fernandez could make a comeback! Are you sure you don't mean Wilson Alvarez? Is AF even playing anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Just kiddin. Alvarez finished well for the Dodgers. Alex and Black Jack are El Finito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 There's a rumor Alex Fernandez could make a comeback! LOL!!! I Heard Greg Hibbard is Working out for the Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Just kiddin. Gotta use the green my man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Look, the Sox offered Colon 10 mill a year over 3 years with nothing deferred. There is nothing the Sox should of done or could of done when the Angels came in with a 4 yr 48 mill offer. Thats a contract that could bite a team in the ass. If the Sox were looking at a 70-75 mill payroll, then they could afford to over-pay but thats not the case. The Sox should take their picks (One First Rounder cause Colon is rated above Escobar and a sandwich pick) and then look to Ponson. Ponson can come without costing them a draft pick and then they can move their attention to adding relievers such as Guardado, Rhodes, Benitez and Jimenez. Tim Worell and Jeff Nelson are some other quality options. Millwood isn't a bad idea, but I say go a little cheaper with Ponson because A you keep your draft picks, b the Sox can invest some extra money in the pen which is a necessity and C Ponson is pretty young and has semi proven he can pitch in the AL. Plus Ponson put up better numbers last year then Millwood or Colon. Not saying he's necessarily better, but give him the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 One question: I don't believe the Angels were one of the Top 15 teams in baseball last year. So do we still get their first round pick? I fear not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 One question: I don't believe the Angels were one of the Top 15 teams in baseball last year. So do we still get their first round pick? I fear not. No, then its their 2nd rounder. Thats the one thing I was wondering, where exactly they fit in cause they absolutely tanked it in the 2nd half of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 By my count, Angels had the 20th best record in the big leagues last season. That spells second round draft pick to me. another downer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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