upnorthsox Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Wow, think you guys are being a little hard on Gammons, with the way KW feels about Frank it would surprise me if he even asked for a mid level prospect in return. I don't want Weaver but I could definitely see a trade here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick03 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 gammons is a tool, f*** him....i dont say much on here, mostly just read posts, but i gotta get my two cents in here :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 First of all frank is a 10-5 guy.... He can veto any trade... Second what would we want weaver for? :fyou Gammons IIRC Frank gave up his right to veto a trade when his deal was restructured last off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Mayb da Dodgers r goin afta Frank now instead of Konerko? I sure hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 i swear to god if gammons is right, i will give up on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I agree......... He reported the "latest rumor"...... that's it.... there will be a million rumors flying around New Orleans this weekend. His job is to report them. Makes for a good Sportscenter and Baseball Tonight.... Lots of rumors will fly, most will have no wings and flop...... but that doesn't mean there is not talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 But C'mon Weaver to the sox for Thomas??? LOL!!! Go take your prozac old Fart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 But C'mon Weaver to the sox for Thomas??? LOL!!! Go take your prozac old Fart Again, Josh, he just reports what he hears........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I KNOW THAT. And if that Happens Kenny's needs to be f***ing shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I KNOW THAT. And if that Happens Kenny's needs to be f***ing shot True, but that would not make gammons a bad guy for reporting it. LOL I don't see this rumor having many legs to it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 This would be horrible. The only way this would make any sense is if the Yanks paid basically all of Weaver's contract, otherwise it makes absolutely no sense. I wouldn't in a million years deal Thomas for Jeff Weaver, unless the Sox were really gonna save money and thats not the case unless they plan on spending a lot. As far as trading Frank, the big thing with this contract is he waived his 10/5 rights which means the Sox can deal him at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I could see Lee (pitcher from NY or Chi) going to LA, Brown to Yanks, and Perez and Weaver to Chicago with the Yanks giving Sox $2M in cash. Weaver is a salary dump and we take a risk. If he pans out we have a solid rotation. If he doesn't we have Perez. I think LA would need pitching in return, maybe we get Mota. If they are dealing Weaver to us, then we better not be giving up anything good in return. The Sox better be giving them absolute crap and the Yanks should still be paying the contract. Now if they moved Thomas and got Perez and Weaver for roughly the same amount as Thomas contract (Meaning the Yanks would have to pick up a whole lot of Weaver's deal)...then and only then would I do that and thats not going to happen. Weaver has one of the worse contracts in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I wouldn't trade myself for Weaver Weaver Sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Jason, you are finally coming around on Weaver........ There is hope for you yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 If were gonna trade Thomas to LA, might as well trade for Perez+prospect and cut the Yankees out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Was reading over on WSI and JJAV mentioned that Gammons said those would guys would be the centerpieces but other players would be involved. That would make a bit more sense. If Jose and Billy Koch were both included and the only major contract the Sox took on was Weaver's and they also get Perez or Itzuris in return, then I'd say this deal could have a shot. Could is the key word. Who knows, I'm not gonna guess whose involved and I'm not gonna mention guys I want to get cause everytime I mention a guys name I swear that same day they sign with a team not named the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Was reading over on WSI and JJAV mentioned that Gammons said those would guys would be the centerpieces but other players would be involved. That would make a bit more sense. If Jose and Billy Koch were both included and the only major contract the Sox took on was Weaver's and they also get Perez or Itzuris in return, then I'd say this deal could have a shot. Could is the key word. Who knows, I'm not gonna guess whose involved and I'm not gonna mention guys I want to get cause everytime I mention a guys name I swear that same day they sign with a team not named the Sox. Anything form WSI is something ti LOL At Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Just watched the SC where Gammons reports this rumor, he says there will HAVE to be cash and players added to make it work, so this isn't the final deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 When you look at the particulars of the deal as it was first presented here, you have to know that there would be other players or considerations involved. Swapping those three players and their contracts between the three teams just does not make any sense. You have to stop and consider it's only a rumor. If there is substance to the rumor, you have to realize that you are probably not getting the complete story. It's just the way this stuff works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 This would be the worst deal ever unless we got tons of cash, and tons of prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 What if we got Soriano and Weaver and NO cash? Would this be asking to much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 What if we got Soriano and Weaver and NO cash? Would this be asking to much? Now that would work for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Why not throw in Thomas and Konerko, and get Weaver and Perez, in a 3 way with the Dodgers and Yankees? :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Why not throw in Thomas and Konerko, and get Weaver and Perez, in a 3 way with the Dodgers and Yankees? :finger The Dodgers will not give up Brown and Perez. They may give up a reliever and starter but not 2/5 of their rotation unless Driefort is one of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I heard the Dodgers were looking to rid themselves of LaDuca, how bout, Carlos Lee and Danny Wright to the Dodgers for Laduca and Perez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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