Patrick_Bateman Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Cause I do. I've known Sidney for 5 years. There is nothing wrong with his arm... from HIS mouth. Like I said, just my opinion. You are simply relaying what someone else told you, even if it was Sidney himself. I just found out I don't have an ACL in my right knee, but my knee feels fine. It was discovered through a routine physical. Unless you are his doctor or have seen the MRI, you don't have a clue about Sidney Ponson's labrum. I understand he would have no reason to lie to you, but this is something ballplayers don't go around sharing with everyone. It could possible jeapordize his career and future earnings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Like I said, just my opinion. You are simply relaying what someone else told you, even if it was Sidney himself. I just found out I don't have an ACL in my right knee, but my knee feels fine. It was discovered through a routine physical. Unless you are his doctor or have seen the MRI, you don't have a clue about Sidney Ponson's labrum. I understand he would have no reason to lie to you, but this is something ballplayers don't go around sharing with everyone. It could possible jeapordize his career and future earnings. Sigh.. his mom is a liar, his sisters.. everyone is a liar!!! Do you think Baltimore wouldn't know..? Or that San Fran didn't check him out BEFORE trading for him.. since they were in the playoffs why on earth would they want someone with a labrum issue...?? Sheesh... where's the grief when we repeat something Mark's dad told us..? Dopn't bother responding to me. I have no desire to banter with someone who has nothing better to do than call me a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Sigh.. his mom is a liar, his sisters.. everyone is a liar!!! Sheesh... where's the grief when we repeat something Mark's dad told us..? Dopn't bother responding to me. I have no desire to banter with someone who has nothing better to do than call me a liar. It really seems to me that he is just looking to start something. We all have made posts where it seems we are pretty sure in the past. I just see no need for this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Oh great! Now you've gone and made Steff angry. You won't like her when she's angry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 I guess Baby Lou took his loss to Aunuld a little too hard.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I guess Baby Lou took his loss to Aunuld a little too hard.... What a great movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 What a great movie. "It's like I am cuhming day and naiight" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 "It's like I am cuhming day and naiight" He sure loved his weightlifting. The best part was when they were smoking at the end, what certainly looked like a blunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 The way I see it, The Sox signed a pitcher who reminds me of a young andy Pettitte. For far less money than Pettitte just signed for.... Buehrle's numbers compare very favorably to pettitte... The real reaon Pettite is getting more is the post season victories and NY factor. I love this signing, It says to MB that we are committed to him for the near future and the kid can go out there and just pitch. Plus the Kid is only going to be 25 on opening day. He still has tons of upside, as he continues to figure out how to pitch to big league batters. Further comparing Pettite and MB, MB had easily his worst season last year, and still posted a 4.14 ERA, Pettite on the other hand, who's now getting 31.5MIL over the next 3 years, Posted only a marginally better 4.02 ERA, Yielding 21 wins. MB's real trouble was in the beginning of the year his inabilty to pick up his teammates when they committed and error. He had a carreer hign 18 unearned runs score. This was largely the problem over the early winless streak. So overall I think the sox have great value in MB for the next 3 years and possibly 4. In any case, Kudos to the White Sox front office for FINALLY treating this kid right. I'm putting an authentic MB jersey on my Christmas list as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Ya gotta change ya sig Cheay. It makes it so I have to move the scroll bar to read you're post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 i just put a post in the Sex, lie and politics forum asking about just that... I'll get it changed probably before the end of the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Well at least now the Buerhle to St. Luis rumors can stop for a while. He's only gonna earn $3.5 mill in 2004 which really is a bargain considerin the type of pitcher he is and should be if he returns back to his 2001 and 2002 form. There's gotta be a deal in the works though, cos we must be over budget now with this contract extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Good news. We're finally taking care of MB, long overdue. Will this be his (first) 20-win season? We can hope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Look at this from Rob Neyer's new column on ESPN.com, Let's put it this way: Mark Buehrle just signed a new three-year deal with the White Sox for roughly half the money Pettitte got ... and Buehrle's a better pitcher. You don't believe it? Below are innings and ERA+ for both Buehrle and Pettitte Buehrle 2001 2002 2003 Innings 221 239 230 ERA+ 140 129 108 Pettitte 2001 2002 2003 Innings 201 135 208 ERA+ 112 134 109 Buehrle's better and he'll give more innings, at least if history's any sort of guide. And yet he's not making nearly as much money as Pettitte, merely because he happens to pitch for the wrong team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 buehrle's a better pitcher in the season, It's yet to be seen if MB is a real "Gamer" like Pettitte is. Pettitte has a 14-4 post season record, and a 4-1 WS record (even though his Post season ERA is markedly higher than his career ERA). Until MB really shuts down good teams in BIG games he's going to make less money. Pettite had the added advantage of having the Yankees to bid agaisnt.. That significantly raises his market value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 buehrle's a better pitcher in the season, It's yet to be seen if MB is a real "Gamer" like Pettitte is. Pettitte has a 14-4 post season record, and a 4-1 WS record (even though his Post season ERA is markedly higher than his career ERA). Until MB really shuts down good teams in BIG games he's going to make less money. Pettite had the added advantage of having the Yankees to bid agaisnt.. That significantly raises his market value. The key is now I still don't think the Astros r gonna make the postseason afta losing Wagner, and with all da moves da Cubs and Cards r makin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 YES! http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...ex.jsp?c_id=cws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 The Cards havent done s***.....yet. Its the Cubs division for the taking and the Astros probably wont prove to be too much competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Anyone notice this deal was done when KW was out of town, at the Winter Meetings? I'm borrowing this bit of information from Ncorgbl from the MLB boards. I hope he doesn't mind. You all know KW was lowballing MB with bad deals, now that he is in New Orleans, JR, or whomever, does the deal. KW needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Anyone notice this deal was done when KW was out of town, at the Winter Meetings? I'm borrowing this bit of information from Ncorgbl from the MLB boards. I hope he doesn't mind. You all know KW was lowballing MB with bad deals, now that he is in New Orleans, JR, or whomever, does the deal. KW needs to go. Backstabbin in the Chicago White Sox Organisation. I saw Rick Hahn made the announcement not KW, but I wouldn't take it for much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 This deal is stupid, now MB quit you cardinal ass crying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 This deal is stupid, now MB quit you cardinal ass crying. what about this signing is stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Glad to see they took care of MB 3 years 18mil isnt all that bad. There may be a trade in the works since were so straped for cash it only make sense that a trade is upon us soon maybe the long rumored dodgers trade will fall through. Hell yes. Burhle was one that I was worried about. Thank god they are doing the right thing and keeping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 That was a big surprise to me. I thought we would lose him because of last year's fiasco. Thanks MB for signing a multi year deal. Now he can focus on just pitching so he doesnt go a long winless streak just like last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Anyone notice this deal was done when KW was out of town, at the Winter Meetings? I'm borrowing this bit of information from Ncorgbl from the MLB boards. I hope he doesn't mind. You all know KW was lowballing MB with bad deals, now that he is in New Orleans, JR, or whomever, does the deal. KW needs to go. Rick Hahn has been negotiating this contract from day one. KW even states that Hahn's committment paid off or something like that. Hahn deals with most contract extension from what I've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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