Cerbaho-WG Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Royals signed infielder Tony Graffanino, who had been with the White Sox, to a two-year contract. There were a lot of teams interested in Graffanino for his defense and his skills against left-handed pitchers. The Royals will platoon him with Desi Relaford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 50 bucks says Graffy hits a game winning HR vs. us this season, any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Man, we better start signing players, or we'll be known as the Chicago/Charlotte White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Losing Graffanino to the Royals pisses me off. But wasn't he wanting to go somewhere he could be a regular? So much for that. As usual ... it appears it came down to $$$. But this is bad, to lose two guys to your division rival, especially quality guys like Sullivan and Graffanino. Both are noted to be good clubhouse guys. Graffanino was supposed to be one of Reinsdorf's favorites too. I wonder why the chairman didn't step in and get something done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 50 bucks says Graffy hits a game winning HR vs. us this season, any takers? It will happen within the first three games of the season. Scott Sullivan will shut us down for a few innings, allowing KC to come back and give him the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyMan56 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Hopefully Graffy and Sully both do well for their new team-both great players-unfortunately they'll be our rivals and will be playing us many times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Man the Royals hav been busy so far this offseason. How bout signin sum Twinkie players now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Seriously, how excited would we be if we signed a Graffy type player? Nothing wrong with the Graff-man; but I'm not too concerned about the balance of power shifting in the AL Central with this move. The Royals are still behind us and we're still behind the Twins. Besides they had to match our Uribe move like the Red Sox and the Yankees match each other's moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I wish Graffy the best; however, I hope he goes 0-4 every night he sees us.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Good point, Texsox, except this is starting to show something. Graff thinks the Royals have a better chance to win than the stale Sox, who are making no moves to improve. Good luck selling tickets, Mr. Reinsdork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Losing Graffanino to the Royals pisses me off. But wasn't he wanting to go somewhere he could be a regular? So much for that. As usual ... it appears it came down to $$$. But this is bad, to lose two guys to your division rival, especially quality guys like Sullivan and Graffanino. Both are noted to be good clubhouse guys. Graffanino was supposed to be one of Reinsdorf's favorites too. I wonder why the chairman didn't step in and get something done? Jim my man how are you. I think he didn't step in because anything over 1 million per year is too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Seriously, how excited would we be if we signed a Graffy type player? Nothing wrong with the Graff-man; but I'm not too concerned about the balance of power shifting in the AL Central with this move. The Royals are still behind us and we're still behind the Twins. Besides they had to match our Uribe move like the Red Sox and the Yankees match each other's moves. Just keep in mind, our next signing, is our first signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Just keep in mind, our next signing, is our first signing And last signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 hope I'm wrong, but I take this as another sign that guys don't like the Sox management -- whether it's owner, general manager or manager. somethin' ain't right for Sullivan and Graffanino to go to KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Good point, Texsox, except this is starting to show something. Graff thinks the Royals have a better chance to win than the stale Sox, who are making no moves to improve. Good luck selling tickets, Mr. Reinsdork. I'm not so sure. playing time and other things may factor in. Plus at his skill/salary level money matters more. If winning was that important he would have thrown himself on the Yankees or Lakers and begged them for a job at minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 OUCH!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Rector Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Losing Graffanino to the Royals pisses me off. But wasn't he wanting to go somewhere he could be a regular? So much for that. As usual ... it appears it came down to $$$. But this is bad, to lose two guys to your division rival, especially quality guys like Sullivan and Graffanino. Both are noted to be good clubhouse guys. Graffanino was supposed to be one of Reinsdorf's favorites too. I wonder why the chairman didn't step in and get something done? Who cares how good they are in the clubhouse? Its what they do on the field that counts. As for Sullivan, he was a disaster for us. Graff at 2nd base won't work out so well for KC since his real value is being able to play at all infield positions well. Limiting him to just 1 position like that diminishes the potential that he could otherwise bring to the Royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 somethin' ain't right for Sullivan and Graffanino to go to KC I could see Graff leaving with the Uribe move.... but why Sullivan? After realizing your bullpen just lost Gordon would you not attempt to resign this guy? A "rubber arm" type of pitcher that eats up innings and is great in a clubhouse. Some of the Cinncinnati players were crying last year when Sully was traded. If we can somehow swap Maggs/Valentine for Garcia/Soriano/Winn(?) I'll be freakin estatic. But that scenario represents a trade that seemingly goes in our favor......therefore it will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Hopefully Graffy and Sully both do well for their new team-both great players-unfortunately they'll be our rivals and will be playing us many times... Huh!!! I hope they Fail Miserably.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 OUCH!!!!!! You're nothing if not verbose, Cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Who needs Sullivan? We have "the next Scott Sullivan" in Danny Wright. Who needs Graffy? We have "the next Tony Graffanino" in Juan Uribe. Don't you guys remember anything? We also had Kip Wells ("the next Mike Mussina") and Jon Garland ("the next Kevin Brown"). Don't you guys ever believe what Kenny Einstein has to say? He knows all! I may not "know all" like our genius GM, but I do know this - if he goes into the season with this pile of crap, NO ONE will come to games, Sox fans will revolt, the team will suck a major fat one, and this franchise will go into the toilet faster than exploding diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I could see Graff leaving with the Uribe move.... but why Sullivan? Because Sullivan, even if healthy after so many innings, is basically a 4.00+ ERA pitcher in the AL. In arbit, he was gonna make about 3 Mill a year or more. Can Sox spend 3+ Mill a year on a relief pitcher in his 30s and that many innings in his arm/shoulder and THAT kind of ERA? IF we didn't give Burhle big bucks, IF we didnt' overpay for Konerko, Koch, Valentin, IF Lee wasn't due 6.5 Mill in arbitration and IF Magglio wasn't making 14 Mill......then I'd say yes Sullivan is a pretty good fit. But the said 'IF' is just that, and so Sullivan had to be let go......leving the Sox praying that Koch, Wright and Showneiss will have career years in the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 and this franchise will go into the toilet faster than exploding diarrhea. and bonus for spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 and bonus for spelling Yeah I always thought there was an o in there sumwhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 You're nothing if not verbose, Cheat. what I was at the time was drunk... I've refrained from drunken posting(somewhat)... Although even drunk I'm a better speller than BEGOOD... right now i think I need to cook something greasy....MMM... hungover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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