UofIChiSox Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Says of course like it has said here that it hinges on ARod, but what happens if the ARod-Ramirez trade isn't sorted out by the Thursday deadline? Then we don't get Nomar, still have Maggs, and are basically forced to move him. How would Maggs be able to play here knowing that we tried to trade him but couldn't due to forces beyond his control? Personally, here is what I want to happen. We get Nomar, Williamson, Kim from BoSox, send Valentin to Seattle for whatever, and get a starter from Konerko and Koch. Also, what about the possibility of Kim starting for us, if he is included? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 How would Maggs be able to play here knowing that we tried to trade him but couldn't due to forces beyond his control? Because he's being paid to do so. He has to know that the Sox were never going to pony up the dough for an extension and thusly try to trade him while the Sox can still get something for him. That isn't something to take personally, that's simply the economics of baseball, especially southside Chicago baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Because baseball is a business and sometimes things happen and they don't go through. If he stays in Chicago, Maggs is a class act, and I have no doubt he'd bring his A game. Maggs will always be one of my favorite players and he'll be greatly missed, but at the same time, The Sox tried to work an extension and now they are moving on to Nomar...who could be the type of star poewr the Sox need...or could be turned into pitching, pitching and more pitching. Its all so wait and see right now. But if the Sox get Nomar...then Evans gets the short end of the stick because he has absolutely no leverage and either overpays for Nomar or gets Konerko (Solid...but the Sox get there wish too, cause they get pitching and a bit of payroll relief). The huge question is...will Nomar stay, if he does, will the Sox pay him, and does this mean their budget goes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 I brought up Kim for Koch a few weeks ago and was told to go play video games. Kim had a mental breakdown last year but he is very young. I think he could be the 5th starter or a good bullpen arm. Asian fans might have an increased interest when he starts. If you disagree, I welcome well thought out opinions. Please don't tell me to go play video games. I'm not a draft pick anymore. Although, I do like video games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 How would Maggs be able to play here knowing that we tried to trade him but couldn't due to forces beyond his control? Its a business and its his job. Trades happen all the time and trades that are on the verge of happening sometimes fall apart at the last minute. Its the nature of the business. Don't forget, Jon Garland was almost an Angel and then the Angels pulled the plug on the deal at the last minute and I haven't ever heard Garland complain about the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Says of course like it has said here that it hinges on ARod, but what happens if the ARod-Ramirez trade isn't sorted out by the Thursday deadline? Is there really a deadline for this trade? If so, why can't a trade be made after Thursday? thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Is there really a deadline for this trade? If so, why can't a trade be made after Thursday? thanx Because of the involvement of outside agencies (the commish office and players union) they can lean on this deal a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 hasn't Selig told them to wrap it up by Thursday. If the White Sox weren't involved, I wouldn't care. Let it drag on. It's been great publicity for Baseball, bumping the NFL off the lead story on sports center several nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 What the hell business is it for Bud Seilig to tell teams how much time they have to make a deal. A Rod almost makes more than his whole team. If they ever talk about contracting teams, they'd better include the Brewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Finally some Sox news to get me away from following the NBA and King James for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 I brought up Kim for Koch a few weeks ago and was told to go play video games. Kim had a mental breakdown last year but he is very young. I think he could be the 5th starter or a good bullpen arm. Asian fans might have an increased interest when he starts. If you disagree, I welcome well thought out opinions. Please don't tell me to go play video games. I'm not a draft pick anymore. Although, I do like video games. I am a big Kim fan. Don't know how much he makes though...I think thats the issue, but if the Sox unloaded Koch and Maggs for Nomar, Kim and Williamson I'd be incredibly happy, although I wouldn't move Kim to the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Because of the involvement of outside agencies (the commish office and players union) they can lean on this deal a little more. That and the fact that its holding up the rest of baseball basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Why would anyone want Kim? He always finds a way to blow big games and the stunt he pulled giving the finger to the Boston fans last year during the playoffs should be enough to shy any team away from wanting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 How would Maggs be able to play here knowing that we tried to trade him but couldn't due to forces beyond his control? This would be a GREAT deal for him. Going to Boston, which in getting A-Rod, Shilling, & Foulke have all but sealed their spot in the playoffs. If I'm Maggs.. I'm at home screaming c'mon guys.... pull the trigger!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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