Arod Deal will happen, Mags going to be traded

[BrandoFan]

Dan Evans - MUST WIN this year, or is gone.

 

True, but the Maggs deal will be resolved BEFORE the season even commences. UNlike the Sox who are 10+ million OVER the payroll limit, Danny Evans can lean back and plot how he will be spending a HUGE chunk of money.....while Barry Bonds is getting older by the minute and Giants-- weaker. D-Backs shouldn't put much of a fight, either. Padres, Rockies, no problem. Just replace Brown, get a RF and you're set.

 

Kenny Williams - MIGHT win this year, or not. However he will be back.

 

Kenny's job hung by a THREAD around last July, and there are many rumors saying he is not in control/sharing control with some shady eminence grise. And even if he's still in charge (I doubt it), that miserable failure of the team down the stretch (Koch, White, Konerko, Shownweiss, Robbie didnt exactly shine) certainly didn't solidify his position, not by a long shot. I am afraid if he doesn't get the Sox out of this salary mess and/or the team has poor April-May, he is GAAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNN.

 

So who is the GM with the most pressure and heat up his ass?

 

Both are in their own ways. Evans might indeed be in a DO-OR-DIE jam, BUT he has enough AMMO (read: 30-35 Mill of spendable money AND 2 GREAT prospects as bait should he run out of dough) to put up a HUGE fight.........As I mentioned in the two previous posts, Evans has WAY more options at this point when it comes to Ordonez than KW does, so you tell ME for whom this trade is more crucial......BESIDES, it's NOT Kenny Williams trading with Danny Evans; it's Chicago White Sox dealing with Los Angeles Dodgers, and NEITHER GM will be allowed to do something FOOLISH/HARMFUL just to preserve their job. Get real.

 

Dodgers will have a GREAT payroll in 2005 even if they fail in 2004. Whereas the Sox will have an ever LOWER one if NO playoffs in 2004. This simple truth affects EVERYTHING.

 

And better yet, who is most likely to be employed next year as a MLB GM?

 

Neither if their their clubs don't get to a hot start in the first two months.

 

Enough said.

 

Not even f***ing close, pal.

[Pastime]

Brando,

 

Let me fill you in on something. Jerry Reinsdorf has a lot of power in the upper management of MLB. He also likes to play the "minority" card - whether that card be racial or monetary. He won't fire Kenny. No way. Kenny is the GM here for the next decade - bank on it. If he fired Kenny, then he would have to deal with people saying, "Well you had a minority GM, which is fine and dandy, but you gave him no payroll to work with!" "We're the poor team in the large city." Cry me river, asshole. You are still profitting off the team, jackass, or you would have sold it many years ago. You ain't bulls***ting any of us, liar bastard.

 

Reinsdorf wants to be politically correct on every level. He will retain Kenny for as long as he can - trust me, he will. He will wait and "bide his time" until the team finally gets lucky and wins another division. That way, he can say, "See, my minority GM gets the job done."

 

Don't believe for one minute that Jerry Reinsdorf doesn't do whatever he can within his power to not only make himself look good, but his team as well - as long as it doesn't involve spending money. He can now cry to the masses and say, "We spent last year, but it didn't work out." He's a real con-man. But he's an effective con-man. He knows how to pacify the simple-minded and uneducated. He is the epitome of "the master manipulator." A true lost art. He wants to be a "model" for the other MLB owners. "See, I spent minimal money and still won with my token GM by my side." The guy isn't worth a billion and a half dollars from stupid business dealings. He takes advantage of the weak and stupid, and then manipulates people and uses rhetoric and persuasion to get his point across. My hat is off to him. If I could bulls***, manipulate, and confuse people with half the success he has, I will be rich enough to buy the team in about 5 years. You can be my assistant, I promise. Okay?

 

Basically, if he wins, then he's responsible, but if he loses, it's the fault of everyone else. When the Sox won in 2000, you couldn't get his ugly face off the screen, but when the Sox lose, where the f-ck is he? He's nowhere to be found. Same thing with the Bulls. When they were winning, he was all over the place. But in the last 6 years of their miserable failure, where oh where is Chairman Reinsdorf? You couldn't find him with a map and a f-cking search party. He's an opportunist owner. When things are right - here I am!! When things are wrong - who's to blame, dammit? The epitome of a LIAR - the epitome of a con artist - the epitome of STICKING IT UP PEOPLE'S ASSES.

 

I have already cancelled my season tickets - I hope that all of you do the same.

[BrandoFan]

Brando,

 

Let me fill you in on something.  Jerry Reinsdorf has a lot of power in the upper management of MLB. He also likes to play the "minority" card - whether that card be racial or monetary. He won't fire Kenny.  No way.  Kenny is the GM here for the next decade - bank on it.  If he fired Kenny, then he would have to deal with people saying, "Well you had a minority GM, which is fine and dandy, but you gave him no payroll to work with!"  "We're the poor team in the large city."  Cry me river, asshole. You are still profitting off the team, jackass, or you would have sold it many years ago.  You ain't bulls***ting any of us, liar bastard. 

 

Reinsdorf wants to be politically correct on every level.  He will retain Kenny for as long as he can - trust me, he will.  He will wait and "bide his time" until the team finally gets lucky and wins another division.  That way, he can say, "See, my minority GM gets the job done." 

 

Don't believe for one minute that Jerry Reinsdorf doesn't do whatever he can within his power to not only make himself look good, but his team as well - as long as it doesn't involve spending money.  He can now cry to the masses and say, "We spent last year, but it didn't work out."  He's a real con-man.  But he's an effective con-man.  He knows how to pacify the simple-minded and uneducated.  He is the epitome of "the master manipulator."  A true lost art.  He wants to be a "model" for the other MLB owners.  "See, I spent minimal money and still won with my token GM by my side."  The guy isn't worth a billion and a half dollars from stupid business dealings.  He takes advantage of the weak and stupid, and then manipulates people and uses rhetoric and persuasion to get his point across.  My hat is off to him.  If I could bulls***, manipulate, and confuse people with half the success he has, I will be rich enough to buy the f***ing team in about 5 years.  You can be my assistant, I promise.  Okay?

 

Basically, if he wins, then he's responsible, but if he loses, it's the fault of everyone else.  When the Sox won in 2000, you couldn't get his ugly face off the screen, but when the Sox lose, where the f*** is he?  He's nowhere to be found.  Same thing with the Bulls.  When they were winning, he was all over the place.  But in the last 6 years of their miserable failure, where oh where is Chairman Reinsdorf? You couldn't find him with a map and a f***ing search party.  He's an opportunist owner.  When things are right - here I am!!  When things are wrong - who's to blame, dammit?  The epitome of a LIAR - the epitome of a con artist - the epitome of STICKING IT UP PEOPLE'S ASSES. 

 

I have already cancelled my season tickets - I hope that all of you do the same.

You make a lot of great tangent points, Pastime.

 

However, I still Kenny Williams will NOT surivive a 17-32-type start and our April schedule is pretty tough, so if we duplicate the kinda of play we showed ealy LAST year when we had a much easier beginning, we can find ourselves in a 2001 like hole faster than you can say "break-up".

 

And even if he DOES, he won't be the de facto GM calling the shots but a puppet, do you think he wants that? He BADLY wants to win and acquit himself for 3-year failure.

 

I also still think the Dodgers are in a driver's seat on this one...and given DE's very shaky ground, that's saying something!

[jasonxctf]

remember though. this also means that Valentin is off to Seattle for Freddy Garcia.

 

without this deal.. Valentin stays at SS and we end up trading Maggs for Odalis Perez.

 

I'd rather have Nomar, Williamson, Kim and Garcia than Maggs, Valentin, Cotts, etc.

[Steve Bartman's my idol]

Danny Wright, I don't mind giving up, we are lucky if he can get out the first inning with him, he walks everybody. :fthecubs

[Steve Bartman's my idol]

Who says we have to deal with LA anyway, why not with Anaheim, deal Nomar and Konerko for Percival/Erstad and either Washburn or Ortiz if they still have him.