bigred3535 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 I was just browsing and saw these. I don't know if they've been posted yet or not (I don't think so): LHP Valerio De Los Santos (Phillies) IF/OF Russel Branyan (Reds) OF Ruben Mateo (Reds) OF Reggie Taylor (Reds) LHP Nate Bland (Astros) 1B Randall "Sausage-Beater" Simon (Cubs) I wouldn't mind seeing the Sox pick up De Los Santos for bullpen help. He was always pretty decent with the Brewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Get Randell Simon: --He is talented and young enough to improve. --He can hit righties, so if Konerko shows he is having troubles with them again, you can bench him without having AAAA Ross Glaud in there. --He was one of Cubs best clutch hitters down the stretch and in the playoffs, coming off the bench and driving in HUGE runs; the fact that he didn't get regular at bats didn't phase him one bit. Hello Brian Dabauch! --He is much better hitter with runners on base and is downright deadly with RISP. I am talking about 332 ba/915 OPS in last three years. --He is cheap. Ventura type money. Not a terrible 1B, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Another thing to mention Brando is the fact that he doesn't strike out. He doesn't walk much either though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 I agree we should get Simon since we got rid of Daubach. Simon is good for all the reasons Brando listed plus the fact that provided one of the funniest moments I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 I agree we should get Simon since we got rid of Daubach. Simon is good for all the reasons Brando listed plus the fact that provided one of the funniest moments I've ever seen. If I were the owner I'd sign him for tha reason alone. It would be the leagues first ever humor signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=mlb What I don't get is KW has money for players ON his ball club to rise the pay roll when there are a big ass CROP of FA's NOT on the PAYROLL...stupid mo'ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Baez was non tendered too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 I havent seen if these players were non tendered. But whenever we shift Konerko or who else, I think Travis Lee will be a good replacement or Ben Grieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 I agree with many of you whom would like Simon. Travis Lee is okay, but he doesn't have the bat (but does have the glove). No matter what, we have to move Kong in order to get Simon, because he'll want to start. Lee may be cool with coming off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Has the complete list of non-tenders come out yet? So far, I've seen a few intriguing names, but not many that I just want to jump on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Get Randell Simon: --He is talented and young enough to improve. --He can hit righties, so if Konerko shows he is having troubles with them again, you can bench him without having AAAA Ross Glaud in there. --He was one of Cubs best clutch hitters down the stretch and in the playoffs, coming off the bench and driving in HUGE runs; the fact that he didn't get regular at bats didn't phase him one bit. Hello Brian Dabauch! --He is much better hitter with runners on base and is downright deadly with RISP. I am talking about 332 ba/915 OPS in last three years. --He is cheap. Ventura type money. Not a terrible 1B, either. Good call. I agree. Simon would help the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Only possible if the Sox move Konerko first. Plus there's the issue of money as well, I think Simon's gonna want ample money, and sum team mite overpay for him in this depressed market for 1B's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Good call Brando, I would like to unload Konerko and get Simon. I might also be interested in either Frank Menechino (good OBP guy) or Damian Jackson for 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Good call Brando, I would like to unload Konerko and get Simon. I might also be interested in either Frank Menechino (good OBP guy) or Damian Jackson for 2B. Funny that you are interested in Menechino because he is a good OBP guy, yet also want Simon who basically has not OBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 They need to direct all their energies to pitching and getting a leadoff hitter. Randall Simon should be way down the list of things to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred3535 Posted December 21, 2003 Author Share Posted December 21, 2003 The problem with Simon replacing Daubach is that Daubs could play the corner outfield and corner infield spots. As far as I know, Simon is a 1B only. He's also likely to cost more than Daubach did last year since he'll probably get more than the non-guaranteed minor league contract that KW gave Daubach. Rotoworld says the Pirates are interested in bringing him back, so if that's true the Sox should go after someone else since a) Any competition wll drive up his price to the point where it's not worth it and B) he'd probably prefer the Pirates anyway since he'd be more likely to get a starting spot there. Face the facts people, Konerko is probably not going anywhere and he's a better option than anybody available right now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 The problem with Simon replacing Daubach is that Daubs could play the corner outfield and corner infield spots. Yeah, and he was SO awful in RF that a normally super-forgiving JM never repeated the experiement again. Sorry, but Daubach is as much an outfielder as Konerko is a 3B. Face the facts people, Konerko is probably not going anywhere and he's a better option than anybody available right now anyway. I am not diputing that, but if Simon can be had for under 1.7 Mill, do it without hesitation. This team CANNOT afford for Konerko to go into the tank in April and May in 2004; as soon as there is ANY semblance of him having difficulty hitting RHP, slide Simon in. It's about SURVIVAL with this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Funny that you are interested in Menechino because he is a good OBP guy, yet also want Simon who basically has not OBP That's because MnSoxFan understands that a (money-tight) team needs a cheap, talented if enigmatic slugger driving in HUGE runs in BIG ballgames out of the 7th spot (sandwitched bewteen RH Crede and RH Rowand) against RHP almost as much as it needs a good OBP man at the top. Lay off the Billy Beane pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 We shouldn't be a money tight team, our team plays in Chicago not Des Moines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 We shouldn't be a money tight team, our team plays in Chicago not Des Moines. Thems the breaks. Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 That's because MnSoxFan understands that a (money-tight) team needs a cheap, talented if enigmatic slugger driving in HUGE runs in BIG ballgames out of the 7th spot (sandwitched bewteen RH Crede and RH Rowand) against RHP almost as much as it needs a good OBP man at the top. Lay off the Billy Beane pipe. Nice effort in taking a shot at me....... It didn't work, but obviously you think it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Nice effort in taking a shot at me....... It didn't work, but obviously you think it did. It didn't work because it was no shot. Paranoid much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred3535 Posted December 22, 2003 Author Share Posted December 22, 2003 Simon is no better than Konerko! If people think it's ridiculous to pay 8 million to Konerko why do they think it's better to pay 2 million to a backup first basemen or 10 million to a first base platoon. Sticking with Koney and hoping he comes back from last year is the best choice. Simon's stats last year: .276 BA, 16 home runs, 17 doubles, 72 RBI, 16 walks, 37 K's, .309 OBP, .743 OPS Paul's Stats last year: .234 BA, 18 home runs, 19 doubles, 65 RBI, 43 walks, 50 K's, .305 OBP, .704 OPS The biggest difference between the two is that Paul has had one All-Star caliber season, and four good seasons before that. Simon is no safer bet than Paul. He's had two seasons at the above level (including last year) so a dip in his stats is more likely than Paul's was last year, whereas a significant increase in his stats is far less likely than Paul. The Sox need to concentrate on getting bullpen help, a starter and a second baseman, not a mediocre first baseman (especially since those are more readily available than the others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Simon is no better than Konerko! If people think it's ridiculous to pay 8 million to Konerko why do they think it's better to pay 2 million to a backup first basemen or 10 million to a first base platoon. Sticking with Koney and hoping he comes back from last year is the best choice. Simon's stats last year: .276 BA, 16 home runs, 17 doubles, 72 RBI, 16 walks, 37 K's, .309 OBP, .743 OPS Paul's Stats last year: .234 BA, 18 home runs, 19 doubles, 65 RBI, 43 walks, 50 K's, .305 OBP, .704 OPS The biggest difference between the two is that Paul has had one All-Star caliber season, and four good seasons before that. Simon is no safer bet than Paul. He's had two seasons at the above level (including last year) so a dip in his stats is more likely than Paul's was last year, whereas a significant increase in his stats is far less likely than Paul. The Sox need to concentrate on getting bullpen help, a starter and a second baseman, not a mediocre first baseman (especially since those are more readily available than the others). Why? Your wish is my command: --He is talented and young enough to improve. Really live hands. --He can hit righties, so if Konerko shows he is having troubles with them again, you can bench him without having AAAA Ross Glaud in there. --He was one of Cubs best clutch hitters down the stretch and in the playoffs, coming off the bench and driving in HUGE runs; the fact that he didn't get regular at bats didn't phase him one bit. Hello Brian Dabauch! --He is much better hitter with runners on base and is downright deadly with RISP. I am talking about 332 ba/915 OPS in last three years. --He is cheap. Ventura type money. Not a terrible 1B, either I might add "no chronic hip condition" to the list as well as the fact he doesn't hit into as many DPs and is faster despite his weight. Sorry, but I'll take Simon to hit against RHP at 1.5 Mill than Konerko to full-time at 17/2 years. Konerko (as well as White, Rios, Koch) is the reason why we failed in 2003 and just traded Maggs if you wanna be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 I seriously doubt White Sox management is thinking Randall Simon is at the top of their to-do list. 1). Bullpen help 2). A starting pitcher (or two) 3). Leadoff hitter 28). Randall Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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