Great NFL Draft Site

[Chisoxfn]

A few people I know are doing this awesome NFL draft site. Its over 200 player profiles right now and soon enough will have team needs pages and much much more. The plan is to have over 300 player profiles, positional rankings, and a lot more.

 

Anyway, just wanted to give a little shout out to Sportsinfinity for putting together an awesome FREE draft page. They've helped Soxtalk out a lot in the past and have helped futuresox out as well.

 

So check it on out for those that are big on the draft NFL Draft Page

[DBAHO]

That's a gr8 NFL Draft site u got goin there. It's pretty hard to find a good one nowadays since sites like SportingNews make ya pay for everythin. My Cowboys won't be an active participant this year which is quite a change to say the least.

[Chisoxfn]

That's a gr8 NFL Draft site u got goin there. It's pretty hard to find a good one nowadays since sites like SportingNews make ya pay for everythin. My Cowboys won't be an active participant this year which is quite a change to say the least. 

As in every year, it will be a huge draft for the Bears. I got a lot of faith in Angelo.

 

I only did qb's so I didn't do that much work. Still have like 10 more qb's to put in and then I can read all the other stuff. I always try to help that network out cause they believe in keeping things FREE for the fans, none of that subscription BS.

[DBAHO]

As in every year, it will be a huge draft for the Bears.  I got a lot of faith in Angelo.

 

I only did qb's so I didn't do that much work.  Still have like 10 more qb's to put in and then I can read all the other stuff.  I always try to help that network out cause they believe in keeping things FREE for the fans, none of that subscription BS.

Angelo had a good draft in 2003, of course Jauron actually playin da rookies helped immensely. I think defensively they r pretty much set, except they need another D Lineman to help take away space for Urlacher to make his tackles. I think they should select a tackle with their 1st pick to help protect Grossman for the next 10 years.

[DBAHO]

I dont follow College football to much, but kinda, is Jared Payton even going to get drafted? Havent heard his name tossed around at all. I would think mabye the Bears would draft him late, just for repsect, I know they did that will Cassey Urlacher, dont the Bears have his rights??

I saw him play for Miami last nite. Think he just got ova 1000 yards rushin for da season. Dunno if he's got da talent to get drafted cos he's been rotatin with another for da whole season, but mayb da Bears could pick him up with a 7th round pick or just afta the draft if he ain't actually picked up by any1.

[Chisoxfn]

Angelo had a good draft in 2003, of course Jauron actually playin da rookies helped immensely. I think defensively they r pretty much set, except they need another D Lineman to help take away space for Urlacher to make his tackles. I think they should select a tackle with their 1st pick to help protect Grossman for the next 10 years.

Its too bad they won't be able to get Gallery. Maybe they will go with Shawn Andrews, if he slides. Otherwise I think they will take a dt or a cb, but I wouldn't be shocked with a wr either.

 

Angelo is gonna go best available.

[Chisoxfn]

I dont follow College football to much, but kinda, is Jared Payton even going to get drafted? Havent heard his name tossed around at all. I would think mabye the Bears would draft him late, just for repsect, I know they did that will Cassey Urlacher, dont the Bears have his rights??

Jared will probably be selected between the 4th and 7th rounds, I'd guess the 5th. He's a good sleeper pick though, cause I Think he's a pretty solid back.

 

I prefer Fred Russel of Iowa though, when it comes to late round running backs.

[Heads22]

OK, OK. Ferentz is a good coach. But you ain't getting anything else outta me!

[Heads22]

I see Russell being an NFL KR/PR....not an RB.

[whitesoxin']

I know they did that will Cassey Urlacher, dont the Bears have his rights??

 

I'm not sure if they still have his rights because I'm pretty sure he was signed by the Chicago Rush of the AFL.

[southsider2k5]

Jared will probably be selected between the 4th and 7th rounds, I'd guess the 5th.  He's a good sleeper pick though, cause I Think he's a pretty solid back. 

 

I prefer Fred Russel of Iowa though, when it comes to late round running backs.

I've heard Payton mentioned as a special teams specialist in the NFL. Anyone else hear that?

[southsider2k5]

I dont follow College football to much, but kinda, is Jared Payton even going to get drafted? Havent heard his name tossed around at all. I would think mabye the Bears would draft him late, just for repsect, I know they did that will Cassey Urlacher, dont the Bears have his rights??

No the Bears signed Casey as a FA out of college but he didn't make the team so they released him. He is a FA for NFL purposes.

[witesoxfan]

Does anyone think that if Jarrett maybe put on a little more weight he might be a decent fullback? Jarrett is 210 pounds, and Mike Anderson is probably the lightest FB in the league and weighs 230. I would have to imagine it might not hurt to have a fullback with a little speed.

 

I just watch Jarrett and figure that since he is a big physical back that he would have a shot at it.

[Mathew]

I'd be happy to see the draft go that way, Pittsburgh needs a QB of the future.

[Soxfest]

A few people I know are doing this awesome NFL draft site.  Its over 200 player profiles right now and soon enough will have team needs pages and much much more.  The plan is to have over 300 player profiles, positional rankings, and a lot more.

 

Anyway, just wanted to give a little shout out to Sportsinfinity for putting together an awesome FREE draft page.  They've helped Soxtalk out a lot in the past and have helped futuresox out as well. 

 

So check it on out for those that are big on the draft NFL Draft Page

I am a draft junkie another real good FREE site is nfldraftblitz.com, thought you might try that one also.

[Gene Honda Civic]

here's the first complete Mock Draft I've seen...

 

MOCK DRAFT: ROUND 1

 

PICK TEAM PLAYER POS SCHOOL

1 (1) Chargers Tommie Harris* DT Oklahoma

With many needs and other teams jockeying to draft one of the two elite QBs -- Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning -- the Chargers likely will trade down. The Chargers, after getting burned by Ryan Leaf, will go the free-agency route (Mark Brunell?) for a QB and give Drew Brees more time to develop as a backup. The Chargers should seek to improve a miserable DL. Harris has the explosion and quickness to penetrate the line and the speed to make big plays in the backfield. He would be a huge addition to San Diego's aging and oft-injured line.

 

2 (2) Raiders Larry Fitzgerald* WR Pitt

The Raiders also are prime candidates to trade down because they have several needs and likely won't take a quarterback here. If the Raiders stay at No. 2, it would be hard to pass on Fitzgerald. He instantly would upgrade the Raiders' speed and could be a terrific weapon opposite Jerry Porter for many years. Fitzgerald, who spent a year at military school between high school and college, still must get an exception from the NFL to enter the draft. Fitzgerald, though just a sophomore, is a top-five lock if eligible. He is the complete package -- size, speed and playmaking skills. He also is as great a person, and character is becoming more valuable after the problems with Keyshawn Johnson and Terrell Owens.

 

3 (3) Cardinals Eli Manning QB Ole Miss

Roethlisberger is a better prospect than Manning because of upside, but the Cardinals will go the safer route and use Manning's name to sell a few more tickets. The Cardinals used the last few games to test Josh McCown, who played admirably but isn't the long-term answer. Manning had a terrific senior season. He is a cut below Michael Vick (Falcons) but is just as gifted as Joey Harrington (Lions) and Chad Pennington (Jets). Manning might not be as cerebral as big brother Peyton, but he is more fiery, more athletic and a better leader.

 

4 (4) Giants Robert Gallery T Iowa

Giants officials will consider Roethlisberger here but have more immediate needs along the OL. Gallery emerged from former teammate Eric Steinbach's (Bengals) shadow this season and developed into one of the most complete and dominant OL in the nation. Gallery is not as big or strong as Arkansas' Shawn Andrews but is a better athlete. Gallery is the top senior OL prospect and likely will start as a rookie.

 

5 (5) Redskins Vince Wilfork* DT Miami (FL)

This might be a bit high for Wilfork, who projects more as a 10-15 pick, but the Redskins are desperate for DT help. Wilfork would be a good fit for the Redskins because he is a massive two-gap player who instantly would upgrade their size and make life easier for the Redskins' LBs. Wilfork hustled more this season and developed into more complete player. He is quick, active and strong at the point of attack. He excels at controlling the line and has enough mobility and athleticism to become a factor as a pass rusher.

 

6 (6) Lions Kellen Winslow Jr.* TE Miami (FL)

Winslow's immaturity on and off the field has turned off some NFL officials, but those issues should be forgotten by draft weekend. Winslow would provide a missing downfield threat in the middle of the field for Harrington and would take safety attention away from WR Charles Rogers. Winslow continues to get bigger and stronger. He is a fierce blocker and clearly is the best pass-catching tight end in this class.

 

7 (7) Falcons Shawn Andrews* T Arkansas

(pick subject to coin flip) The Falcons must upgrade their WR corps but have a better chance of completing that task in free agency than of finding a potential Pro Bowl OT. Andrews, a junior, could be the first OL drafted, too. Andrews is a more dominant player than Gallery, but character and durability issues surfaced recently that could cause Andrews to slip a bit. Massive with great strength, he is at his best as a run blocker and shows the footwork to excel in pass protection. He could play RT or LT in the NFL, but he would be a perfect fit as the Falcons' RT immediately.

 

8 (8) Browns Sean Taylor* S Miami (FL)

(pick subject to coin flip) The Browns' biggest need is an upgrade their OL, and team officials would be ecstatic if Gallery or Andrews fell to them. Safety and TE are other positions of need, and Taylor has a chance to be a great one quickly. He is rated just as highly as the Cowboys' Roy Williams (No. 8 overall) was coming out of Oklahoma two years ago. Taylor is versatile -- he can play the run, cover slot receivers man-to-man and has great range in zone coverage.

 

9 (9) Jaguars Roy Williams WR Texas

Don't be fooled by Williams' stats. The Longhorns ran the ball almost twice as much as they threw it in '03, so Williams didn't have record-setting stats. After working hard in the weight room for the first time in his career, has stayed healthy as a senior, avoided the hamstring injuries that bothered him in the past and looked sharper than ever. Williams is a complete WR with excellent size, speed, hands and run-after-catch skills. Williams will drop, but not far, if Fitzgerald enters the draft.

 

10 (10) Texans Will Smith DE Ohio St.

The Texans are desperate for DL help, and Smith certainly warrants this pick if Texans coaches feel he can play in a 3-4 scheme. Smith has emerged as a clear-cut top-10 pick with terrific size, quickness, power and speed. He is the nation's best all-around senior DE and is experienced and mature enough to start as a rookie.

 

11 (11) Steelers Ben Roethlisberger* QB Miami (O.)

Team officials were wise not to give Tommy Maddox a long-term contract. Roethlisberger would benefit from a season or two as a backup, but he is certain to be an NFL star one day. Roethlisberger is a fine athlete and has a strong arm, good size and great leadership skills. However, it would be a big shock if a QB-needy team doesn't ahead of Pittsburgh to get Roethlisberger.

 

12 (12) Jets Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami (FL)

Jets officials have a tough decision between drafting a WR or LB here. If they go with a LB, they'll have a tough choice between Vilma and Miami teammate D.J. Williams. There isn't much that separates the two, but with Sam Cowart entrenched on the weak side and rookie Victor Hobson showing promise on the strong side, it makes sense to draft MLB Vilma. He eventually could replace Marvin Jones at MLB and drastically upgrade the speed of a painfully slow LB corps.

 

13 (13) Bills Ben Troupe TE Florida

Troupe emerged as the top senior TE after splitting time with Aaron Walker (49ers) the past two seasons. Troupe isn't as explosive as Winslow but is a similar athletic pass-catcher who would help draw attention from the WRs and give Drew Bledsoe a legitimate threat in the middle. Troupe isn't far behind Winslow in terms of receiving skills, but Winslow is the better blocker.

 

14 (14) Bears Kevin Jones* RB Va. Tech

Jones is the No. 1-rated RB in what could be an elite class if underclassmen Cedric Benson (Texas), Steven Jackson (Oregon State) and Carnell "Cadillac" Williams (Auburn) all come out. The Bears could draft a DT or WR here, but Jones would provide an explosive element missing with Anthony Thomas.

 

15 (15) Buccaneers Reggie Williams* WR Wash.

Reggie Williams is the next highest-rated WR after Fitzgerald and Roy Williams. There is some question about Reggie's speed, but he looks fast enough on film. Otherwise, he is the complete package; he has the size, hands and playmaking ability to quickly develop into a No. 1 receiver in the NFL.

 

16 (16) 49ers Michael Clayton* WR LSU

Intelligent and tough, Clayton is a complete WR who would be a great value here. He is tall with good speed and great playmaking flair. Clayton also is the toughest and best-blocking WR in college. He would be the ideal replacement for free agent Terrell Owens.

 

17 (17) Bengals DeAngelo Hall* CB Va. Tech

The Bengals will focus on defense with a special emphasis on DT, CB and S. Hall is the fastest CB -- and perhaps the fastest player overall -- in this draft. He is a shutdown corner in man-to-man coverage and also has the potential to develop into an explosive punt returner. He is a confident, tested player who should be ready to start right away.

 

18 (18) Saints Chris Gamble* CB Ohio St.

Fred Thomas, Dale Carter and Ashley Ambrose are all on the downsides of their careers, so expect the Saints to pick a CB. Gamble, a great athlete and big-time playmaker, is a promising one with good size and great speed. He must refine his coverage skills but has the size, fluid movements and acceleration to contribute right away.

 

19 (19) Vikings Marlin Jackson* CB Michigan

The Vikings still need help at CB, and Jackson would be a good value here. Jackson could slip because of inconsistent play and off-field troubles, but he could wind up being a great value in the middle-to-late first round. He played FS in '03 because of team needs and missed three games because of a leg injury, which isn't a long-term concern. Jackson is loaded with talent, and his best fit is at CB.

 

20 (20) Dolphins J.P. Losman QB Tulane

This could be the surprise pick of Round 1. WR Lee Evans is a possibility here, but he could slip because of durability concerns. The Dolphins obviously are in win-now mode but can address OL and WR issues in free agency. Why not draft a future replacement for Jay Fiedler? Losman had a tough senior season, mostly because of a poor supporting cast. He has a quick release, above-average athleticism and a strong arm. He might need a season or two to improve his accuracy and adjust to the NFL, but he'd get that time in Miami.

 

21 (21) Patriots D.J. Williams OLB Miami (FL)

(from Baltimore) (from Baltimore) Patriots officials would rather have a prototypical ILB to pair with Tedy Bruschi but could take a great athlete and fit him into coach Bill Belichick's flexible system. Williams, a former RB, continues to add bulk and strength and developed into a complete LB the last two years. He is explosive on the blitz and has excellent athleticism in coverage, and few can match his range versus the run. Williams always is around the ball.

 

22 (22) Cowboys Steven Jackson* RB Oregon St.

The Cowboys might wait until the second round to draft a RB, but Jackson would be a great value here. Jackson hasn't received as much national attention as Kevin Jones, Greg Jones and Carnell Williams, but Jackson is versatile with solid hands, excellent blocking skills and good burst and power. He is the type of tough, aggressive runner coach Bill Parcells craves.

 

23 (23) Seahawks Randy Starks* DT Maryland

Seahawks officials would love a DT with this pick and would be elated if Starks fell to them. Starks had a second-consecutive dominating season in the Terps' 3-4 scheme but would make an easy transition back to a 4-3 DT role. Starks is a terrific athlete and has ideal initial quickness, size and power.

 

24 (24) Broncos Will Poole CB USC

After Willie Middlebrooks' failed experiment and the move of Deltha O'Neal to WR, the Broncos are desperate for CB help. Poole is a fast-rising prospect. A transfer from Boston College, he finally got on the USC field this season and quickly developed into a premier CB. He has good size, great speed and exceptional ball skills.

 

25 (25) Packers David Pollack* DE Georgia

Pollack lacks ideal height and likely will drop a bit on draft day because he won't have first-round workout statistics, but Pollack is an elite "football player." He is quick and powerful with a nose for the ball. He instantly would upgrade any NFL team's pass rush and could help fill a DE void left by Joe Johnson's injury and Jamal Reynolds' lackadaisical performance.

 

26 (26) Panthers Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma

If the Panthers can't get a WR here, a CB would do. Strait would be a good value late in the first round. He must improve his technique in man-to-man coverage, but he has the size, speed and quickness to become a terrific starter.

 

27 (27) Rams Marquise Hill* DE LSU

The Rams could go in a lot of directions with this pick, including TE, CB or DL. Hill would be the best-available player at any of those three spots. Hill has exceptional quickness and athleticism. He was a major factor in LSU's national championship run and would be a terrific long-term insurance policy for Grant Wistrom, who turns 28 next season.

 

28 (28) Titans Karlos Dansby OLB Auburn

Texas' Derrick Johnson is on the NFL/college fence and reportedly is leaning towards returning to school. If he enters the '04 draft, he likely will go higher than Dansby. Still, Dansby would be a good value here. Peter Sirmon, Rocky Calmus and Brad Kassell are all below-average LBs, and Dansby would be an upgrade over any of them. He is active against the run, has ideal pass-rush speed and shows athleticism in coverage. He would replace Sirmon immediately at OLB and eventually could take over for Calmus at MLB.

 

29 (29) Colts Dunta Robinson CB S. Carolina

The Colts' biggest offseason need is at CB. Robinson is a mid-to-late first-round prospect with good size, strength and tackling skills. He moved from FS to CB in '03 and continues to improve his coverage skills. A tough, aggressive and physical defender, Robinson can jam receivers at the line and hold up well in run support. Those skills would be a perfect fit in the Colts' defense, which uses cover-2, cover-3 and man-to-man coverages.

 

30 (30) Chiefs Kenechi Udeze* DE USC

The Chiefs prefer a CB here and also might take a WR (Evans or Michigan's Braylon Edwards) but might reach for DE like Udeze. He has the pass-rush skills to instantly upgrade the weakest aspect of their weak defense.

 

31 (31) Eagles Jake Grove C Va. Tech

Aging OL starters and a lack of depth are starting to take a toll. Grove would be a good value here and eventually would replace Hank Fraley. Grove isn't a great athlete but has good size and power and is intelligent and technically sound. He also has a mean streak. Much like last year's top center, Jeff Faine (Browns), Grove would be ready to start right away.

 

32 (32) Patriots Carnell Williams* RB Auburn

After drafting a LB with the No. 21 pick, the Patriots will go for a RB here. There should be two or three first-round values available in a great class of RBs. Williams has nothing to prove on the college level and would be risking injury by returning for his senior season. He lacks great size but runs like he is 2 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier. If Williams is not available, the Patriots still could have their choice between backs like Cedric Benson (Texas), Greg Jones (FSU) and Chris Perry (Michigan).

[Gene Honda Civic]

Angelo has called the A-train, not an impact player. And when he arrived just after A-train was drafted, he said he wouldn't have drafted that guy.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Hey, If Angelo can trade the A-Train for an Offensive Linemen, or a few high draft picks fine, but im way more concerned about the O line then are running game at the moment.

I agree with you. but JA ran Juaron out of town, it's highly probable that he'll do the same to the A-train. I think we are better served waiting until the second round or later on a RB though. Jones, who was a stud as a freshman, has only showed flashes of how great he can be. I don't know if he can consistently perform at the NFL level.

[whitesoxin']

Why not draft Micheal "The Burner" Turner? Keep him close to home and sit him for a year or two and maybe he can be an everyday runningback.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Why not draft Micheal "The Burner" Turner? Keep him close to home and sit him for a year or two and maybe he can be an everyday runningback.

I think that's a great Idea, just depends on where he grades out in the draft.

 

Jason's site has him listed as a second rounder--- I think he's a little lower... 3rd or 4th.. I'd snatch him up if he available then...

 

Last year I wanted Quinten Griffin in the 3rd... He went to Denver with the first pick in the fourth.

[whitesoxin']

Jason's site has him listed as a second rounder--- I think he's a little lower... 3rd or 4th.. I'd snatch him up if he available then...

 

Yea I think he'll fall a little bit too, but if he does good in combines he'll be a second rounder. Griffin would have been a great pick but I can't complain about last years draft class.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Yea I think he'll fall a little bit too, but if he does good in combines he'll be a second rounder. Griffin would have been a great pick but I can't complain about last years draft class.

I can't complain about last years class really either. We got tillman with the pick I wanted Griffin with. And I think that Forsey is really the hidden gem of that class. I can see him as a trick play threat, much the way that Milburn was used a few years back.

[witesoxfan]

There are too many posts about Turner to quote, but as an example as to where the Bears could maybe draft him, I think the 3rd round sounds about right. All I need to do is look at Onterrio Smith in Minnesota. Got taken in the 3rd round and was awesome in the few games he was in. I think he was a major steal by the Vikings, and there's a possibility that if Turner falls down to the 3rd or 4th round that he should be picked up. The Bears would have to consider themselves lucky if that occurred. I could see him coming in and being a solid back.

[witesoxfan]

Just been checking out some sites. Seems like the majority sees the Bears getting Vince Worlfolk out of Miami. Alot of reviews seem to be positives, and seems like some of his negitives can be fixed.

From what I've read, the major negative about him is that he is too big. I've never heard of a DT being too big. I mean, maybe if you're 350-400 pounds, but I can't imagine he'd weigh that much.

 

And besides, if he loses little speed while weighing around 325-350, let him be that big. You'll then need double teams to block him, opening holes for blitzes and plenty of pass rushing and QB sacking, and when QBs get pressured, they have to make quick decisions, and only a few QBs can do that and complete 50-60% of their passes, which is good news for Tillman, Azumah, and the rest of the DBs. I can guarantee you that if you get pressure on Daunte, he'll panic. And when he panics, he throws it to the wrong team most of the time(because he's a dumbass). Harrington will probably be able to throw quick passes as he gets older and matures, but next year, he won't be ready and will also make mistakes. That really doesn't work for Favre, but if the DBs get lucky enough, he'll throw 4 or 5 balls up in a game and you'll come down with 2 of them.

[DBAHO]

My thoughts on that mock draft,

1 - Doubt the Lions will take Winslow that high at no.6 unless they trade down. Sean Taylor is more likely, they really need a young safety.

2 - Steelers will be stoked to take Roethlisberger at no. 11 but I think sum time is goin to trade up for him like the Bills (if they cut Bledsoe), or even the Dolphins.

3 - If one of the stud OT's is still on the board at no. 10, I think the Bears could trade up to select one of em. I'm really hopin Kevin Jones slips to 20 for the Cowboys and that would be a HUGE steal.