BrandoFan Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Whether particularly insightful, passionate, funny or plain cute....If you feel a Pale Hose post or an excerpt deserves a special mention, POST IT HERE. Texsox in "This is BS" thread: If they did set a min max what would you do with the Yankees? Tell George to give away a bunch of players to get down to $70,000,000? Would you also set a limit on the Yankee profits? How happy would Yankee fans be if George made an extra $100,000,000 next year? Should he be forced to lower ticket prices? Cheaper beer? Give back some tv money?.....[re: players] Nobody likes restraints on what they can earn. If a bunch of homeless people fought to make the military minimum wage and deducted for food, raiment, and shelter, they might think it was funny when you complained. It is all relative to what you make SpringfieldFan in "White Sox a Visual History" thread: The "Old Comiskey" Sox of the 70's and 80's were a completely different organization then. Completely. I don't know if you young fans will ever understand what the experience back then was like. That is a shame, but I guess times change. I can try to describe it, though. Have you ever walked out of the park after a game (especially at night), and see and hear those street musicians playing their horns and putting their heart into "when the Saints go Marching in" or whatever Jazz tune they are playing. It is a beautiful and honest sound, full of feeling even though the surroundings are anything but clean and beautiful. Well, the games at old Comiskey just kind of had that feeling. The place was old and the fans were crusty, but there was just something unique and genuine about it cwsox in a thread I don't remember: A lot of people have no idea what mediocre is and an incredible sense of self-entitlement. As someone pointed out recently, the same fans who b**** because they can't sit in a seat they did not pay for and are mad because they have to sit in the seat they did pay for and won't spend an extra $6 want Sox ownership to spend tens of millions - a tad hypocritical. Bart Giamatti said that baseball is designed to break your heart. If people can't take the fact that every team but one each year ends up as a "loser" and some teams, not just us, have gone very long times without ending as a "winner" one better have a good grip on their own self about what being a winner and a loser is all about. A lot of the - how can I say, whiners who think they are owed something - would never have survived the 1970 season. Or anything from 1968 through 1983. Or the late 80s. My love and my joy in the Sox was not less in 1970 than it was in 2000. I'd prefer a 2000 finish to a 1970 finish every time. But whatever happens, my inner self knows that this is sport, an entertainment, and if I let my blood pressure and life get wrecked by an entertainment, then it is not the team but me who is the loser. My thrill at being with friends or family when the Home Run of the Century is played when I am sitting (actually, at that point, standing and clapping) in my seats - that is a rush that make my being there with those I care for, that makes me a winner. Regardless of anything else. It's time we give our best and brightest a HOLLA. (And remember: it's not the size of the post, but the quality it boast.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 No!!MARY!! in the best and worst trade thread Lots of bad trades over the years, but some excellent ones too, believe it or not. Worst: 1. Johnny Callison for Gene Freese. 2. Norm Cash and John Romano for Minnie Minoso 3. Earl Battey and Don Mincher for Roy Sievers These three trades wrecked the farm system and set the White Sox back several years. Veeck's roll of the dice for 1960 came up snake eyes and the team did not recover. They had traded all their best prospects, who went on to stardom with other teams. The Sox, meanwhile, were forced to keep trading year after year to fill gapping holes. The prospects could have come in handy around 1964-67, when the team was in desperate need of hitting. Veeck blew it. Other bad trades: Bobby Bonilla for Jose DeLeon. Jose beat Roger Clemens twice in 1986 (when Clemens went 24-4) and faded, while Bonilla played for several 1st place Pitts- burgh teams and helped the 1997 Marlins win the World Series. Release of Denny McLain is a tough call. It was bad because they could have used him in 1967-69, but he later got involved with gamblers and was suspended from baseball. Toss up. Sammy Sosa for George Bell. The only comfort I can take with this one is that the insanely arrogant, narrcisscistic Cub fans who gloat about this one are un- aware of their teams own sorry trading history. But this one stunk. Sosa is an international icon and has made the Cubs lovable, lovable, lovable. Millions of people flock to Wrigley to see him. Granted, attendance doesn't win champion- ships, but maybe if we had him, they'd all come to Comiskey to see him play and the Sox would be top dog. Then again, if he were still with the Sox, he would be derided as a wife-beating, cheating, egomaniacal steroid abuser. Jay Mariotti would going on "Operation Run the Wife-beater Out of Town: Year 13" and up his quota to three feverish articles per week and 100 late-night phone calls. Still, what might have been. Purchase of Chick Gandil from the Cleveland Indians. Not a trade, but certainly one of the WORST deals in White Sox history. Gandil, of course, was the ring- leader of the Black Sox scandal. In fact, I could site any deal that brought one of the Evil Eight to the team, including the purchase of Claude "Lefty the Bagman" Williams form the San Francisco Seals. Lefty used to deliver payoff money to Seal teammates who had gone in the tank, according to Rich Lindberg. Of course, you'll never hear that from Eliot Asinof, John Sayles, the Burns brothers, Boob Costas or anybody else who has sanctified the actions of those crooks. Best Trades: 1. Aaron Robinson for Billy Pierce 2. Joe Tipton for Nellie Fox 3. Gus Zernial, et. al. for Minnie Minoso these trades acquired the three men who were the heart and soul of the Go-Go Sox and helped revive a moribund franchise. Tommy John for Dick Allen. I agree with a poster who stated that this trade also revitalized the team when it badly needed it. I love the history through the eyes of the fans. We have so many excellent historians here, this site is such a treasure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Denny McLain was not released. We had to protect 2 out of 3 bonus babies (that is what they called them back then) and the 3 to choose from were McLain, Dave DeBusschere and Bruce Howard. Sox left McLain unprotected out of the 3 and Tigers grabbed him up. DeBusschere left baseball the next year to play in the NBA, Howard gave the Sox a couple of decent seasons, but never panned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 Damn I completely forgot....I know this is from late '03, but still: Ncorgbl (to Elton John's piano): When are you gonna come down Where will your contract land I should have stayed on the farm I should have listened to the old man You know you can't bait me forever I couldn't sign up with you I'm not a checkbook for your friends to open This boy's too young to be singing the blues So goodbye Bartolo Colon Where the dogs of big league baseball howl You won't let me in your penthouse I'm going back to my plough Back to the howling old room in the woods Hunting the next major league lode Oh I've finally decided my future lies Beyond the Charlotte road What do you think you'll eat then I bet you'll stay a tub o' goo It'll take you a couple of dozen burritos To never see your feet again Maybe you'll get a new G.M. There's plenty like me to be found Mongrels who ain't got a penny Sniffing for tidbits like you on the ground So goodbye Bartolo Colon Where the dogs of big league baseball howl You won't let me in your penthouse I'm going back to my plough Back to the howling old room in the woods Hunting the next major league lode Oh I've finally decided my future lies Beyond the Charlotte road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawks1977 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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