Ishmookie Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 HOCKING KILLED US AD HE IS A GOOD BACKUP 2B. ROGERS WOULD COME CHEAP AND GIVE US A FOURTH STARTER. THEN SIGN DAMIEN MOSS SO THE ROTATION IS BUEHRLE LOAIZA GARLAND ROGERS AND MOSS.........I THINK THAT QUALIFIES AS A GOOD ROTATION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 I doubt Rogers will sign here after the way that negotiations went last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 I wouldn't mind hocking. I don't think we have a chance with Rogers, and I'd prefer Neil Cotts than Damian Moss. They both walk a ton of batters anyway. I think Cotts is special though. Has more upside IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Hocking is around a .220 hitter and at least half of his hits came against us. I wouldn't like to see him as the backup 2 bagger. Willie Harris is better IMO because he has more speed and can play CF too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Hocking but be good Cheap. Plays all 3 Outfields and all 4 infiield Positions. Say no to Rogers who sould be in the Social Security Line. Damien Moss... :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I can't see why we shouldn't giv Moss a chance. I think if Coop can hav a full season with him he can turn him into a real good starter. He did win 12 games in Atlanta ya know. Hocking's a scrapper but I don't think he'd sign here, he'd be afta regular playin time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I can't see why we shouldn't giv Moss a chance. I think if Coop can hav a full season with him he can turn him into a real good starter. He did win 12 games in Atlanta ya know. Hocking's a scrapper but I don't think he'd sign here, he'd be afta regular playin time. I guess it's my opinion. I saw him pitch down here 2 years ago and he pitched well. But he's not a guy who i would go Goo Goo Ga Ga for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I guess it's my opinion. I saw him pitch down here 2 years ago and he pitched well. But he's not a guy who i would go Goo Goo Ga Ga for I guess I'm just biased. I really want an Aussie I can root for on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I guess I'm just biased. I really want an Aussie I can root for on this team. That's what I tought. I'm out, I'm falling to sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Hocking would be a nice backup utility man for several reasons. 1. He's a veteran with a good attitude and positive clubhouse presence. 2. He would come cheaply, IMO, which is a plus considering the payroll restraints. 3. He's a former Twin who knows the division, knows how to win, and knows the Twins inside and out - an advantage for us. As for him hitting only .220, well, that's about 20 points higher than any MLB batting average that Willie Harris has ever sniffed. As for Damian Moss, well, the only "Moss" you'll see on the White Sox this year is the moss growing on Paul Konerko as he plods to first base on a grounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 Hocking but be good Cheap. Plays all 3 Outfields and all 4 infiield Positions. Say no to Rogers who sould be in the Social Security Line. Damien Moss... :puke why dont you like moss he is a good forth or fifth starter he's a good pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 why dont you like moss he is a good forth or fifth starter he's a good pickup. Everyone on this site seems to think you need to have a .600 winning percentage to be worthy of starting for us. I get the feeling Cotts for Clemens would be debated here as Cotts has more upside. I personally think cotts will never see the majors again. Control and a good batting eye can not be taught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Everyone on this site seems to think you need to have a .600 winning percentage to be worthy of starting for us. I get the feeling Cotts for Clemens would be debated here as Cotts has more upside. I personally think cotts will never see the majors again. Control and a good batting eye can not be taught. That's where your wrong. Cotts will see majors again. I dunno if it will be for the sox but he will if he's on another team. I believe, IMO, that Cotts and Moss are the same pitchers as far as control. Did you see how many walks Moss had last year? Cotts can at least Strike people out. (check his minor league stats and he only issued I think 1 or 2 hrs. that's it!) Control and batting eye can be taught. It might not be that BIG of a difference, but it will improve someone's swing (as far as batters) or velocity (as far as pitching.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Everyone on this site seems to think you need to have a .600 winning percentage to be worthy of starting for us. I get the feeling Cotts for Clemens would be debated here as Cotts has more upside. I personally think cotts will never see the majors again. Control and a good batting eye can not be taught. That's where your wrong. Cotts will see majors again. I dunno if it will be for the sox but he will if he's on another team or not. I believe, IMO, that Cotts and Moss are the same pitchers as far as control. Did you see how many walks Moss had last year? Cotts can at least Strike people out. (check his minor league stats and he only issued I think 1 or 2 hrs. that's it!) Control and batting eye can be taught. It might not be that BIG of a difference, but it will improve someone's swing (as far as batters) or velocity (as far as pitching.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Who is Rogers's agent? I know he hates someone with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Who is Rogers's agent? I know he hates someone with the Sox. Borass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Borass. Puh-lease. Every1 hates Boras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Everyone on this site seems to think you need to have a .600 winning percentage to be worthy of starting for us. I get the feeling Cotts for Clemens would be debated here as Cotts has more upside. I personally think cotts will never see the majors again. Control and a good batting eye can not be taught. See what I mean about people giving up on our young guys before they have a chance to prove anything? Here's a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 When and if Cotts arrives with the parent club and sticks around, I sure hope he'll hang around with Buehrle and talk with him every chance he gets. David Wells, the fat blob that he was, didn't do much for the White Sox, but one thing he DID do was impart valuable advice and knowledge to Mark Buehrle (according to Mark). It helped Mark tremendously (once again, according to Mark). Let's hope Buehrle follows the same karma route and takes Cotts under his wing. It could really make a difference. I would love to think of a 2005 rotation that includes Buehrle and Cotts, with Cotts being a Buehrle clone and winning 14 games and MB winning 17-20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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