Wise Master Buehrle Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 I've noticed a few people quick to give KC the division title right away, even myself, at times. But I realized- they have made NO major pitching moves, except signing Sullivan. It's the same damn pitching staff that we can really tear into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 The royals still don't scare me, they never really did last year. They have no pitching and their offense isn't anything special. I think it'll come down to us and the twins again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Exactly...Didn't they have like 21 different pitchers start a game on the mound for them last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseBallGuy Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 True, but they'll also have a healthy Snyder, a healthy Asencio, and the potential for a healthy Affeldt. They also have (arguably) the best pitching prospect in the minors in Zack Greinke. Appier, May, and Anderson should all do an average job of eating up innings in the back of the rotation. I think we all have to remember that while the Royals were very lucky at times last year they were also very unlucky. Injuries basicly killed their pitching staff and they had a couple of guys pitching hurt for a good part of the year. We also don't exactly have a solid back of the rotation. I think we will have the better rotation but I don't think the whole offseason philosophy should be to just hope the Royals staff doesn't improve. It would be nice to actually see us patching some of our holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 I've noticed a few people quick to give KC the division title right away, even myself, at times. But I realized- they have made NO major pitching moves, except signing Sullivan. It's the same damn pitching staff that we can really tear into. Good catch. They are anything but imposing yet everyone makes them out to be unstoppable. Whatever. Let the medis keep pumping them up it just shows how ignorant they are about whats going on in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Good catch. I agree - good catch there yahtzee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Rector Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Basically, KC is concentrating on upgrading their offense in the hopes that it will enable them to overcome their lack of pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Basically, KC is concentrating on upgrading their offense in the hopes that it will enable them to overcome their lack of pitching. That is kinda like the sox then. We already have a power offense. But lack of pitching. I hope this isn't the same plan for our team as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Yeah we'll tear into them, just like last year when we roared out of the gate with 3 hits against Runelvys. I fail to understand the logic here, the Royals sign one of our relievers, we sign a worse one from another team. Therefore, this is good for us? Awesome. Maybe this year we'll finish FOUR whole games ahead of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted January 10, 2004 Author Share Posted January 10, 2004 Yeah we'll tear into them, just like last year when we roared out of the gate with 3 hits against Runelvys. I fail to understand the logic here, the Royals sign one of our relievers, we sign a worse one from another team. Therefore, this is good for us? Awesome. Maybe this year we'll finish FOUR whole games ahead of them. Also like last year, how we swept them in KC and hit like 30 homers in that series.. Those numbers were barely normal. We can really tear into that KC staff. Not changing could mean the division title, imo. But we're a near same boat at the moment, so I'm not running out guaranteeing the Sox win the division. Also, thanks for the kind words, NUKE_CLEVELAND and cwsox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Also like last year, how we swept them in KC and hit like 30 homers in that series.. Those numbers were barely normal. We can really tear into that KC staff. Not changing could mean the division title, imo. But we're a near same boat at the moment, so I'm not running out guaranteeing the Sox win the division. Also, thanks for the kind words, NUKE_CLEVELAND and cwsox. Well we haven't done anything to improve our offense, in fact it's gotten worse (just like our pitching). So I still fail to see the improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted January 10, 2004 Author Share Posted January 10, 2004 Well we haven't done anything to improve our offense, in fact it's gotten worse (just like our pitching). So I still fail to see the improvement. There is no improvement. I never said there was. Anything I said basically meant "Don't you all hand the division title to KC just yet." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseBallGuy Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 There is no improvement Sure there is, you just don't see it. In the series that the Sox swept, they faced the following pitchers: Affeldt(reliever) - Just had a bad outing Carrasco(reliever) - Rookie. Was just bad but also had some tired arm trouble Field(reliever) - Average. Might not even make next years club Grimsley(reliever) - Was fairly effective but was overused last year Hernandez(starter) - Injured Leskanic(reliever) - Was effective Lloyd(releiver) - Horrible. Won't be back Lowe(reliever) - Horrible. Released MacDougal(reliever) - Was effective May(starter) - Bad start Snyder(starter) - Was Injured Now that is being pretty generous to the Royals pitchers but I'm trying to make a point. Affeldt gave up two or more runs in only 2 of 18 games he pitched in relief. Carrasco got a tired arm and won't be used as often next year. Field most likely won't even make next years club. Grimsley will be back in a reduced role. Hernandez will be out the entire year. Leskanic will be back and will be fully recovered from his surgery. Lloyd and Lowe are long gone and they were KC's two worst pitchers. MacDougal was effective in the series and should improve upon his rookie season. May will most likely take a bit of a step back next year. Snyder was injured and it was discovered soon after that. He'll be healthy for next year. The Royals staff will get better just because there is no way they can get worse. We are losing important pitchers. We needed to go out and patch a couple holes in order to have a good shot at the division and instead just hoped that everyone else wouldn't improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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