Soxfest Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 KW makes me sick , he is the biggest liar of a GM in baseball. D.Evans should be the GM of this team, not KW who for 2 years got Ron Schulers coffee until he left. lets examine how enept he is. 1. D.Wells deal enough said. 2. T.Ritchie deal how in the hell do we give 3 players up to get a pitcher who started 0-8 people his last year in Pitt. 3. Colon deal is it a nice deal but the truth is coming out now that Jerry talked to ALL parties involved NOT KW. Kw only did what Jerry told him to do. Jerry , George, Bud and Omar. I am a diehard Sox fan but KW and Jerry Manuel both must go they have had there chance and while I am at it Jerry please sell the team to someone who gives a s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 we all feel your pain.. and have been saying much of that same for the past few seasons... well look at it this way.. if jr wont sell he cant live forever and most of us are younger than he is so we have half a chance to see new ownership one day lol.........as for kw and jm.. let them keep doing stupid s*** .. they will get theirs in the end.. it comes around it goes around.. i honestly believe in that .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 With every thing he has done so far it makes me wonder what does he have to do to get fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 D.Evans should be the GM of this team, not KW I disagree that Danny Evans should be GM - the man traded for Hundley for pete's sake - he is totally unimpressive as a GM. Manuel should be kept, IMHO, I would love to see him manage us again without KW as GM. JR can continue on as owner (as if our opinion makes a difference) because I know he does care, For the rest of what you posted: a major Right On! The biggest liar in baseball is almost too kind of a sobriquet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 D.Evans should be the GM of this team, not KW I disagree that Danny Evans should be GM - the man traded for Hundley for pete's sake - he is totally unimpressive as a GM. Manuel should be kept, IMHO, I would love to see him manage us again without KW as GM. JR can continue on as owner (as if our opinion makes a difference) because I know he does care, For the rest of what you posted: a major Right On! The biggest liar in baseball is almost too kind of a sobriquet. he traded away karros and grudzielaniek for hundley and freed up 5 million in cash which he used to sign fred mcgriff...5 million cash,mcgriff and hundley vrs karros and grud sounds like a winner for LA...but all youre seeing is hundley and not looking any further... plus he stole odalis perez from the braves.... danny evans..come on home !!!!..we need ya!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 NO!!!!!!!! to Evans, I haven't been impressed with his total record. We get a new GM, lets not rehash the past, let;s get someone new with no baggage. A wild, wild thought - Cal Ripken wants to be GM and got screwd over by the Os. Now wouldn't that be interesting if we could get him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 NO!!!!!!!! to Evans, I haven't been impressed with his total record. We get a new GM, lets not rehash the past, let;s get someone new with no baggage. A wild, wild thought - Cal Ripken wants to be GM and got screwd over by the Os. Now wouldn't that be interesting if we could get him... danny wouldnt come here anyeays so its a moot point...cal ripken??...hmmm..would be good publicity for the sox...we could sure use some...i have no idea if he has the skill to do the job though...if he does then by all means cal would be the man from our own organization...what about nick leyva??..he played and managed in the bigs..and has been with us for awhile now so he knows the org..maybe harold baines??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsgdf Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Gary Sheffield for Brian Jordan and Odalis Perez. Good trade - but hardly a steal. The Braves dealt from strength (pitching) and got a great outfielder in return. Geez - if you're trading Sheffield you'd better get something back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wsc425 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I'd like to see team executive Roland Hemond as GM. BTW, can we confirm that not KW, but JR did these deals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Gary Sheffield for Brian Jordan and Odalis Perez. Good trade - but hardly a steal. The Braves dealt from strength (pitching) and got a great outfielder in return. Geez - if you're trading Sheffield you'd better get something back. jordan 18 -80 285...sheffield 25 -84 307..sheffield is better but not by that much..take into account jordan has a reputation as a clubhouse leader who is a real team player..sheffield is pretty much a s***head....kinda evens things out.. perez , a lefty , is only 24 and in his first season as a starter went 15-10 with a 3.00 era...that mark buehrlesque...give me mark buehrle for free and id sure call it a steal.. though i must say after watching KW come out on the wrong end of trade after trade my objectivity might be a clouded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 from our own organization...what about nick leyva??.. don't know enought about levya to have an opinion but I do like his quote from Philadelphia: "I'm going to Radio Shack to buy one of those headsets like the broadcasters use. It seems as soon as you put them on, you get 100 times smarter." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Does anyone know exactly WHY KW got the gig over Evans, who was the logical replacement for RS.? I was not in Chitown at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 built up a quallity farm system and Schueler's recommendation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 built up a quallity farm system and Schueler's recommendation I had heard rumors of a more "colorful" explanation..... JR trying to tap into the minority baseball fans of Chicago by hiring JM and KW to manage/GM the team..... but, if this was the case, it was never substantiated by any credible media source. I don't believe that was the case, but if it was and the media caught on and actually reported it, it wouldn't take long for cries of "racism and prejudice" from the Jesse's and Sharpton's of the world to be leveled against said media outlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 Jerry is on the minority hiring committee that is why Jerry M and KW have jobs that has been well known for 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 built up a quallity farm system and Schueler's recommendation I had heard rumors of a more "colorful" explanation..... JR trying to tap into the minority baseball fans of Chicago by hiring JM and KW to manage/GM the team..... but, if this was the case, it was never substantiated by any credible media source. I don't believe that was the case, but if it was and the media caught on and actually reported it, it wouldn't take long for cries of "racism and prejudice" from the Jesse's and Sharpton's of the world to be leveled against said media outlet. I was told in '99 that Jerry was head of a committee to hire minorities and that's why JM was hired. I assume that's why KW was hired as well. I was told this by several people within the Sox orginization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Jerry is on the minority hiring committee that is why Jerry M and KW have jobs that has been well known for 2 years. Whoops Soxfest, you beat me. It's taking so long for my posts to post. I was hanging in limbo for about 4 minutes. Anyone else having troubles posting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 built up a quallity farm system and Schueler's recommendation I had heard rumors of a more "colorful" explanation..... JR trying to tap into the minority baseball fans of Chicago by hiring JM and KW to manage/GM the team..... but, if this was the case, it was never substantiated by any credible media source. I don't believe that was the case, but if it was and the media caught on and actually reported it, it wouldn't take long for cries of "racism and prejudice" from the Jesse's and Sharpton's of the world to be leveled against said media outlet. I was told in '99 that Jerry was head of a committee to hire minorities and that's why JM was hired. I assume that's why KW was hired as well. I was told this by several people within the Sox orginization. Well then, maybe there is something to it. Can't blame the media for not reporting it because of the firestorm that Jesse and Rev. Jakes will level against their media company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 built up a quallity farm system and Schueler's recommendation I had heard rumors of a more "colorful" explanation..... JR trying to tap into the minority baseball fans of Chicago by hiring JM and KW to manage/GM the team..... but, if this was the case, it was never substantiated by any credible media source. I don't believe that was the case, but if it was and the media caught on and actually reported it, it wouldn't take long for cries of "racism and prejudice" from the Jesse's and Sharpton's of the world to be leveled against said media outlet. thats pretty much the way i heard it too........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 You know what's ironic about all this? As of right now, we have a black manager and a black GM....we have 1 black hitter in our lineup(Frank Thomas) and we have one black relief pitcher(newly signed Tom Gordon) We have as many black men(Manuel and Williams) at key managing positions in our organization as we do on our 25-man roster(Thomas and Gordon). Just a little tidbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 As of right now, we have a black manager and a black GM....we have 1 black hitter in our lineup(Frank Thomas) and we have one black relief pitcher(newly signed Tom Gordon) We have as many black men(Manuel and Williams) at key managing positions in our organization as we do on our 25-man roster(Thomas and Gordon). LOL i was just thinking of the same thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 23, 2003 Author Share Posted January 23, 2003 KW is the worst GM in baseball history KW the puppet pull your strings Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Other than Hawk Harrelson's brief - thank God - tenure as GM, I don't remember the fans ever being so angry with the GM, and the level of anger now may exceed that easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 KW is the worst GM in baseball history KW the puppet pull your strings Jerry I don't think so....Gord Ash is worse than KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Other than Hawk Harrelson's brief - thank God - tenure as GM, I don't remember the fans ever being so angry with the GM, and the level of anger now may exceed that easily cw its actually to the point of missing hawk as gm........thats pretty damn bad huh........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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