maggsmaggs Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 They will need Esteban Loaiza to repeat his 21-win season, Robert Person to come back from elbow reconstruction and lefty Scott Schoeneweis to make the transition from reliever to starter. Here's the link to the entire article about the Sox http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al...13-albeat_x.htm Here's Person's career stats http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?statsId=5538 Not a great pickup if it's true. Although I haven't anything about it till reading it in this article. Career numbers aren't great and he just had elbow surgery, dunno if it's true though. Kenny is hoping lighting strikes twice to get another Loiaza. What's your guy's opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I think it was an error. He was a former White Sox minor leaguer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Well, not many Sox fans thought E LO. would make the team let alone win 21 games. Cant hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I heard this information on ESPN radio and,i wouldnt mind having a veteran pitcher join the squad, it cant hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 If he has been signed, and stays healthy, I would say that 10 wins from him would not be out of the question. I doubt that he puts up Loaiza numbers, but we will get a better picture in ST. It says that he is trying to learn how to pitch, maybe Cooper will be able to turn him around if he is willing to listen. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 If Person is signed, book it that they will look to him to be a reliever. When healthy, he can be pretty good. He's always had a good arm and good stuff. The question is can he put it together and thats a big if. Not a bad move, I'm assuming its to a minor league deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 If Person is signed, book it that they will look to him to be a reliever. When healthy, he can be pretty good. He's always had a good arm and good stuff. The question is can he put it together and thats a big if. Not a bad move, I'm assuming its to a minor league deal. It would have to be a similar package that Loz and Gil Heridia got last season. I see the White Sox making one, or a few, more deals where we bring in similar guys. Person has won 15 before, but hasn't been a starter in a while and I do not see him going back to being able to pitch 100 innings (200 is out of the question). Health is a huge factor here. He has been around for sometime it seems, but is only in his mid 30's too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 It is true, they signed him to a minor league deal and it was announced this afternoon. Good depth signing, this guy won 15 games once and who knows, he could be healthy and ready to go. Every team looks for these bargain basement signings, there's not a thing wrong with it. You'd just like some top shelf signings along with the bargain basement ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatethecubs Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 ya, my dad just said he heard on espn radio that the sox have signed person to a minor league deal. hopefully he will become a good arm out of the pen and possiby the rotation depending on how he does in st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 ya, my dad just said he heard on espn radio that the sox have signed person to a minor league deal. hopefully he will become a good arm out of the pen and possiby the rotation depending on how he does in st. I think him being in the starting rotation is out of the question. He has pitched 90 innings the last two seasons, made 16 starts two seasons ago (none last year). He pitched 173 and 208 innings the seasons before that. I realistically think the best we could hope for is what Flash did a few seasons ago for the Cubs (come back after a while and resurrect his career). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Start printing the playoff tickets! Honestly, why not give this guy a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Honestly, why not give this guy a shot? Exactly. Can't hurt, might help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Another low risk high reward type of situation here. If healthy, Person could be quite handy out of da pen, although I wonder what this will do to Dan Wright if Person does indeed make it with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Another low risk high reward type of situation here. If healthy, Person could be quite handy out of da pen, although I wonder what this will do to Dan Wright if Person does indeed make it with us? Right now I see DW as our fourth/fifth starter. Schowenwies and DW will be in the rotation, unless we have Cotts or another reliever (or a FA) fill a spot. Our bullpen has a ton of holes right now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I like this signing. I wish we would sign a couple more guys to minor league deals like this. Person has always been a solid arm, especially a few years ago. I just like it that KW brought in a pitcher with Major League experience to battle with Wright, Cotts, etc. for that 5 spot or long relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I like this signing. I wish we would sign a couple more guys to minor league deals like this. Person has always been a solid arm, especially a few years ago. I just like it that KW brought in a pitcher with Major League experience to battle with Wright, Cotts, etc. for that 5 spot or long relief. Anyone know who Mike Jackson is? He was signed the same day as Jose Santiago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Anyone know who Mike Jackson is? He was signed the same day as Jose Santiago. 39 year old relief pitcher from Arizona. Player Profile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 39 year old relief pitcher from Arizona. Player Profile Geez...I know nothing about him, but I am not sure we will see anything from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 is this the same Mike Jackson who's been around and around and around -- cleveland and everywhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 is this the same Mike Jackson who's been around and around and around -- cleveland and everywhere else That's the guy who I was thinking of...I knew I had heard the name before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Hopefully this isn't the veteran that KW said he would add to the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 Although Jackson is old, he has put better numbers up than Person and I think could be very valuable. By the way, was it confirmed that we signed Jackson. He has had great numbers in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Jackson used to be pretty good, his stats with Minn. represent this. I expect the Sox are hoping he will be a cheaper version Flash, a guy who if given the chance to pitch an inning and not over worked can still pitch 1 good inning. If he is anything like his former self he could be good. The bad news is, all of our signings are prefaced with "if". But oh well, atleast its something. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Although Jackson is old, he has put better numbers up than Person and I think could be very valuable. By the way, was it confirmed that we signed Jackson. He has had great numbers in his career. It is on foxsports.com...says he signed 12.22.03... Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 This guy is James Baldwin the 2nd ..........and thats not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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