C.Rector Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 From: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=cha 01/13/2004 10:38 AM ET Keeping the dream alive Cameron gets a second opportunity to achieve goal By Scott Merkin / MLB.com Troy Cameron will start the 2004 season at Single-A Carolina. (Joliet JackHammers) CHICAGO -- Troy Cameron won't be listed on the White Sox's depth chart when the team breaks from Spring Training in Tucson at the end of March. In fact, the 25-year-old probably will start the 2004 season in the Carolina League, more than a couple of jumps from the active roster. Yet, the power-hitting third baseman stands closer to U.S. Cellular Field than he did one year ago. At that point, Cameron was suiting up only 45 minutes southwest of Chicago in suburban Joliet -- that is, if he wasn't on a bus trip to St. Paul, Minn., or Winnipeg -- but miles away from the White Sox. The one-time first-round selection of the Atlanta Braves has made the journey back to affiliated baseball, after spending the 2003 season with the Joliet JackHammers in the independent Northern League. "I played independent baseball solely for the reason of getting back into affiliated baseball," said Cameron, who was signed to a minor league contract by the White Sox on Nov. 25. "I'm still doing this for one reason -- to achieve the goal I always had of making it to the Major Leagues. "The original drawback in my mind, and probably the only one of signing with the White Sox, was going back to the Carolina League, where I already spent two years. But I have no room to talk. It's a way to get my foot back in the door for affiliated baseball." Cameron recently completed his seventh year in professional baseball, posting a .250 average with four home runs and 22 RBIs in 43 games with Joliet. Prior to that short unaffiliated stopover, the right-hander hit .229 (530-for-2,315) with 14 triples, 88 home runs, 118 doubles, 325 runs scored and 334 RBIs through 667 minor league games played. "I played independent baseball solely for the reason of getting back into affiliated baseball. I'm still doing this for one reason -- to achieve the goal I always had of making it to the Major Leagues." -- Troy Cameron The 5-foot-11, 190-pounder was selected out of St. Thomas Aquinas High School in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., by Atlanta 29th overall in the first round of the 1997 First-Year Player Draft. That class included J.D. Drew (second overall), Troy Glaus (third), Vernon Wells (fifth), Jon Garland (10th), Lance Berkman (16th), Adam Kennedy (20th) and right-handed pitcher Jason Grilli (fourth), who was picked up by the White Sox in the Rule 5 Draft at the recently completed Winter Meetings in New Orleans. "If you look at that draft, I think everyone from the first round made it to the Major Leagues but me," said Cameron with a laugh, showing he hasn't lost his self-deprecating humor despite struggling through tough on-field times. After spending 4 1/2 years with the Braves, Cameron was traded to Cleveland on June 22, 2001, for pitchers Steve Karsay and Steve Reed. Cameron was the minor league throw-in as part of a move that sent controversial closer John Rocker to the Indians. A little more than one year later, Cameron was shipped to Colorado for a player to be named. He went to Spring Training with the Rockies in 2003 and made it to the final cut but couldn't quite crack the roster as a utility infielder or backup third baseman. He was designated for assignment and released. "It was actually me and another guy trying to get that final roster spot, but I knew they would keep the guy they drafted," Cameron said of his Rockies experience. "I've been in this game long enough that I know how it works. "I had it made with the Braves, with the money they invested in me as a high draft pick. But my back was up against the wall last year at Spring Training." Cameron was a man without a team late in March and couldn't really find any takers. Refusing to entertain any thoughts about giving up the game, Cameron contacted the JackHammers in April about working the infield in their state-of-the-art stadium near the many riverboat casinos that dot the Des Plaines River. Four of the Joliet front-office members left Myrtle Beach, a high Single-A team for Atlanta, a few years back to start up the JackHammers and were very familiar with Cameron from his 1 1/2 seasons with the Pelicans. The 2003 season was marred and quickly shortened by a freak injury to Cameron's left hand, taking place when he fouled off a pitch with a very normal swing during a game in Winnipeg on June 7. The pain led Cameron to believe he broke his hamate bone, but numerous examinations throughout the rest of the year couldn't pinpoint the injury. Rest was the best cure for Cameron, who couldn't swing the bat for weeks after the injury but is currently back to 100 percent. The lack of work left Cameron worried as to whether he would be picked up by a Major League franchise. But it didn't deter the White Sox, who signed him to a minor league contract. "We are looking for someone who can supply power in Single-A ball and can also supplement the prospects in the Carolina League," said White Sox assistant director of player development Brian Porter. "It's also a way to resurrect his career. "If [Cameron] performs well and takes advantage of the situation, he will force us to consider him for bigger and better things," Porter added. Debates range as to the caliber of play in independent baseball. Some purists scoff at people involved in the league who claim it's the equivalent of Double-A, while others such as Porter and the White Sox figure it's worth performing their due diligence in searching for that diamond in the rough. Jeff Zimmerman, the Texas reliever, worked his way from the Northern League to the American League All-Star team. Cameron played in Joliet alongside Pete Rose Jr., whose dad has been receiving much more publicity lately than his progeny. Rose Jr. will be back with Joliet in 2004, refusing to give up the dream, much like Cameron. While the White Sox signed Cameron for power, he will focus on raising his average to a respectable .260 or .270 level. If he succeeds at Winston-Salem, that long road to the Major Leagues might lead a little more directly to Chicago. "It's all about consistency," Cameron said. "The main difference between the minors and the Majors is that the guys in the big leagues are simply more consistent. "Time is ticking down for me and I either have to figure it out or the game will pass me up. Whatever it takes this year is what I will have to do." Scott Merkin is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to approval by Major League Baseball or its clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Cubs chase Maddux and Pudge, after reeling in Hawkins, Walker, Lee and Barrett. And the Sox get this guy. There's not really much to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Maybe that Kenny Williams might not have a job after this year, considering the position he put this team in.... I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I can't wait for the Q&A session with KW at Soxfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 If he can run half as fast as the last Cam we had, and possibly play the OF, maybe this might work out for us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 this is the feel good story of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Why do people bash KW for signing players to cheap contracts who at worst will cost the Sox very little money, and at best could become MLB players or traded to another team. I am sorry but KW has a LIMITED payroll, I doubt he seriously does not want to sign free agents. A lot of GMs when given bad payrolls just roll over and die with their team, atleast KW is trying. With a 90mil payroll the White Sox would be pretty much locks to be in the playoffs, the Cubs with a 90mil payroll statistically should not have made the playoffs. If KW could of improved our team by 30mil, we could of signed 2 pitchers, and filled out our bullpen, putting 2 cheaper players, Alomar and maybe a Payton in 2b and CF respectively. The sad part is, KW puts us in contention every year with these limitations, and every year has done something to try and improve this team, whether it worked or not. I do not think he is the best GM in the world, but I do think he is better than Evans and a bunch of other GMs out there, who have no payroll excuses. The LA Dodgers are crying that they cant win with a payroll of 90mil, most White Sox fans feel with 90mil we would be serious contenders. On an even playing field I think KW would and could do great things, if the White Sox fire him, I expect he gets picked up by another team. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 $5 mil for Jose Valentin?? Trading Aaron Miles for Jose Uribe. There are 2 good reasons for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Also Konerko's contract, 14 million to Maggs this season when our payroll is 60 million, the Ritchie trade, the Foulke for Koch trade.....and on and on and on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Why do people bash KW for signing players to cheap contracts who at worst will cost the Sox very little money, and at best could become MLB players or traded to another team. I am sorry but KW has a LIMITED payroll, I doubt he seriously does not want to sign free agents. A lot of GMs when given bad payrolls just roll over and die with their team, atleast KW is trying. With a 90mil payroll the White Sox would be pretty much locks to be in the playoffs, the Cubs with a 90mil payroll statistically should not have made the playoffs. If KW could of improved our team by 30mil, we could of signed 2 pitchers, and filled out our bullpen, putting 2 cheaper players, Alomar and maybe a Payton in 2b and CF respectively. The sad part is, KW puts us in contention every year with these limitations, and every year has done something to try and improve this team, whether it worked or not. I do not think he is the best GM in the world, but I do think he is better than Evans and a bunch of other GMs out there, who have no payroll excuses. The LA Dodgers are crying that they cant win with a payroll of 90mil, most White Sox fans feel with 90mil we would be serious contenders. On an even playing field I think KW would and could do great things, if the White Sox fire him, I expect he gets picked up by another team. SB No one should be crying about our payroll. As Rex has pointed out several times, our payroll is increasing this year. However, that's not why I'm not happy with KW's offseason. We could have traded Maggs to the Dodgers earlier in the offseason for some pretty damn good prospects as well as Odalis Perez and maybe Guillermo Mota. All he has to do is force the issue, get it done, and go on to the next thing. In all reality, we could have a damn good lineup, a pretty good starting rotation, and a solid bullpen, had KW pulled the trigger. If he has to add a prospect or two to get a deal done, sure, go for it, unless the prospect is for sure the next big thing. We do this all early and not let a team sit on the idea and think about it, overwhelm them with a trade and get stuff done, we could have an awesome roster right now. What he did was he got too conservative, because the last time he went out and made a move early, he got bit in the ass(Koch for Foulke). Had we made a Maggs and prospects for Perez, Mota, and then Jackson and/or Miller, and we have our #3 or #4 starter, a setup man or a closer, and two stud prospects. Then maybe we trade Konerko for a bad contract - say we don't let Anaheim wait and we give them Konerko and a prospect or two for Percival, and maybe that prospect is Joe Borchard, a guy who is so good that they just can't refuse it. In looking back, it may be a bad move, because maybe Borchard busts out in Anaheim and has .300 50 150 type seasons with a BB-K ratio of 1....you never know. At the time(which would be now), Borchard looks like a potential bust, and we get some major bullpen help. This is sort of how Oakland has been run over the past few years, and why they have been successful. Then with this bullpen, we have Koch, who stunk last year. What KW does is he pushes the deal with the Mets, says we'll take on $1 mill or $1.5 mill, and we get Weathers for Koch, and while we really don't save a ton of money, we get even more help in the pen. Our pen has Marte, Percival, Mota, Wunsch, and Weathers in it, and at that point, we really don't need to make any more signings because the last spot will be given to the best man out of ST. Then with Maggs gone, we sign Reggie Sanders as a decent hitter in the middle of our lineup, and we sign Matt Stairs to play 1B for us. That is maybe $4-5 mill right there, and we'll get some quality at-bats out of them, and out of Stairs, we get a LH power hitter in the middle of our lineup. Our lineup has 2 lefties in it, much like it did in the second half of last year, and has more speed in it as well. Sorry for rambling on, but I really would have preferred KW actually gone out and done somthing then just sat around with his thumb up his ass. I just really don't feel comfortable with this team we have. KW just kind of said "I hope I get lucky as hell and some people have career years, and then I can get executive of the year." The only positive out of this is that if we are contending at the break, we can go out and get missing pieces for cheaper, meaning guys who made $10-$15 mill at the beginning of the year are available. So that means that if KW can get something for Konerko in like June or July, maybe Geoff Jenkins becomes available, we get him, we move Thomas to 1B, have Carlos and Geoff split time in LF and have the other who is not in LF be the DH. Of course, Thomas would get days off and would be able to DH, but that would be up to Ozzie to decide. All I can do is hope for the best. So that's what I'm doing. BTW, sorry for rambling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Now this is what I find amusing, you blame KW for the contract status of players. For the most part, Reinsdorf is the one that writes the checks, and Reinsdorf is the one that gives KW the salary to sign these players. Maggs is slightly overpaid, maybe 2-3 mil a year, it is doubtful on the open market he would get less than 10mil, seeing as he is a legitimate MVP candidate every year and has almost no past injuries, making him one of the most reliable players in the game. Red Sox, Yankees, etc would love to have Maggs at 14mil a year. Miles for Uribe... The verdict is still out on this one, but in my opinion the Sox traded a strength "hitting" for a weakness "defense". The Sox are filled with players that can hit the ball, we have very few infielders that can field. If Uribe can hit .270 and field almost at Gold Glove standard, we stole him from the Rockies. Miles is a AAAA guy, he has some pop and a good bat, but nothing spectacular. $5mil for Jose, marginally overpaid, even if we got him at a bargain he still would of commanded $3mil. If you look at most teams rosters they almost all have albatrosses, the White Sox have 0. Even are worst contracts are to the tune of $7-8mil, not so damnig that if Koch and Konerko get off to hot Aprils and Mays, there will be teams wanting their services, especially if we are willing to pay $2-3mil. If you want a perfect GM, sorry but there are none. Atleast KW goes out and tries with what he has, or would you rather have Dan Evans who has dumped Brown, and gotten Weaver in return. Imagine if we traded Maggs straight up for JD Drew. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Now this is what I find amusing, you blame KW for the contract status of players. For the most part, Reinsdorf is the one that writes the checks, and Reinsdorf is the one that gives KW the salary to sign these players. Maggs is slightly overpaid, maybe 2-3 mil a year, it is doubtful on the open market he would get less than 10mil, seeing as he is a legitimate MVP candidate every year and has almost no past injuries, making him one of the most reliable players in the game. Red Sox, Yankees, etc would love to have Maggs at 14mil a year. Miles for Uribe... The verdict is still out on this one, but in my opinion the Sox traded a strength "hitting" for a weakness "defense". The Sox are filled with players that can hit the ball, we have very few infielders that can field. If Uribe can hit .270 and field almost at Gold Glove standard, we stole him from the Rockies. Miles is a AAAA guy, he has some pop and a good bat, but nothing spectacular. $5mil for Jose, marginally overpaid, even if we got him at a bargain he still would of commanded $3mil. If you look at most teams rosters they almost all have albatrosses, the White Sox have 0. Even are worst contracts are to the tune of $7-8mil, not so damnig that if Koch and Konerko get off to hot Aprils and Mays, there will be teams wanting their services, especially if we are willing to pay $2-3mil. If you want a perfect GM, sorry but there are none. Atleast KW goes out and tries with what he has, or would you rather have Dan Evans who has dumped Brown, and gotten Weaver in return. Imagine if we traded Maggs straight up for JD Drew. SB I don't recall blaming KW for our bad salaries, but he can't go unscathed. He was the one who gave Konerko the 3-year, $23.5 mill deal, or he was atleast in the negotiating room. I love Maggs as much as anyone, but a financially strapped team cannot have one player making 25% of the team's salary, which is what Maggs is damn near doing with his $14 mill. I personally feel that the most you should go is $10 mill, the same as the Marlins did last year with IRod. I realize that the Red Sox and Yankees would be fine with Maggs at $14 mill a year, but we spend $60 mill a year, not $120 or $180 mill, like the Red Sox and Yankees do respectively. Miles for Uribe is nothing....that move is very minor, so to say there was a winner and a loser is kind of absurd IMO. Sure we lost Miles....we got Uribe. Neither has had good numbers in the majors, so who knows what's going to happen. Our worst contracts are $7-8 mill, like you said. However, with a $60 mill payroll, you can't have those on your team unless they are putting up awesome, almost MVP-type numbers. Konerko's .235 20 65 last year is far from MVP, and Koch's 5 or 6 blown saves(including one against the DRays in which Carl f***ing Crawford hit a walk-off homer) and his 5.75 ERA are not very impressive, and those two combined this year are making $14 mill, which is 25% of our payroll. That obvoiusly means that 50% of our payroll, or about that, is being spent on 3 players, 2 of whom are not even guaranteed to have really good years. I realize there is no such thing as a perfect GM, because even Billy Beane makes mistakes(and he's as close to a perfect GM as there is in the game today). But you need to get as close to perfection as you can, and KW did not get there this offseason. Maybe he'll do something between now and ST that will blow my mind, but I don't think that will happen. Maybe he'll do something at the trading deadline that will just overwhelm me and make us all faint. All we can do is see if it happens. BTW, there is no comparison between Evans and KW. Evans is quite possibly the worst GM in the game today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 IF KW ever quit or got launched, do you think he'd ever get another GM job in MLB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 IF KW ever quit or got launched, do you think he'd ever get another GM job in MLB? I think he would. At the very least, I would have to say a high position in the front office of a club at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I think he would. At the very least, I would have to say a high position in the front office of a club at the very least. Window washer in the Stadium Club...? It's pretty high up there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 i was calling for KW head after the todd ritchie deal along with the durham one but he has done quite nicley latley and he deserves some props for trying to win with the limited payroll options. he is the most improved GM IMO that being said he still aint no billey bean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 i was calling for KW head after the todd ritchie deal along with the durham one but he has done quite nicley latley and he deserves some props for trying to win with the limited payroll options. he is the most improved GM IMO that being said he still aint no billey bean! But he might however have an IQ close to that of a jelly bean.... Kenny, IMO, would not land a job in anyone's front office anytime soon. Back to scouting for a few years would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 The Chattanooga LookOuts Look out Southern League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Rector Posted January 15, 2004 Author Share Posted January 15, 2004 Interesting. The Sox make a decent minor league pickup and all anyone in this thread wants to talk about is KW's future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 From: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=cha 01/13/2004 10:38 AM ET Keeping the dream alive Cameron gets a second opportunity to achieve goal By Scott Merkin / MLB.com Troy Cameron will start the 2004 season at Single-A Carolina. (Joliet JackHammers) CHICAGO -- Troy Cameron won't be listed on the White Sox's depth chart when the team breaks from Spring Training in Tucson at the end of March. In fact, the 25-year-old probably will start the 2004 season in the Carolina League, more than a couple of jumps from the active roster. Yet, the power-hitting third baseman stands closer to U.S. Cellular Field than he did one year ago. At that point, Cameron was suiting up only 45 minutes southwest of Chicago in suburban Joliet -- that is, if he wasn't on a bus trip to St. Paul, Minn., or Winnipeg -- but miles away from the White Sox. The one-time first-round selection of the Atlanta Braves has made the journey back to affiliated baseball, after spending the 2003 season with the Joliet JackHammers in the independent Northern League. "I played independent baseball solely for the reason of getting back into affiliated baseball," said Cameron, who was signed to a minor league contract by the White Sox on Nov. 25. "I'm still doing this for one reason -- to achieve the goal I always had of making it to the Major Leagues. "The original drawback in my mind, and probably the only one of signing with the White Sox, was going back to the Carolina League, where I already spent two years. But I have no room to talk. It's a way to get my foot back in the door for affiliated baseball." Cameron recently completed his seventh year in professional baseball, posting a .250 average with four home runs and 22 RBIs in 43 games with Joliet. Prior to that short unaffiliated stopover, the right-hander hit .229 (530-for-2,315) with 14 triples, 88 home runs, 118 doubles, 325 runs scored and 334 RBIs through 667 minor league games played. "I played independent baseball solely for the reason of getting back into affiliated baseball. I'm still doing this for one reason -- to achieve the goal I always had of making it to the Major Leagues." -- Troy Cameron The 5-foot-11, 190-pounder was selected out of St. Thomas Aquinas High School in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., by Atlanta 29th overall in the first round of the 1997 First-Year Player Draft. That class included J.D. Drew (second overall), Troy Glaus (third), Vernon Wells (fifth), Jon Garland (10th), Lance Berkman (16th), Adam Kennedy (20th) and right-handed pitcher Jason Grilli (fourth), who was picked up by the White Sox in the Rule 5 Draft at the recently completed Winter Meetings in New Orleans. "If you look at that draft, I think everyone from the first round made it to the Major Leagues but me," said Cameron with a laugh, showing he hasn't lost his self-deprecating humor despite struggling through tough on-field times. After spending 4 1/2 years with the Braves, Cameron was traded to Cleveland on June 22, 2001, for pitchers Steve Karsay and Steve Reed. Cameron was the minor league throw-in as part of a move that sent controversial closer John Rocker to the Indians. A little more than one year later, Cameron was shipped to Colorado for a player to be named. He went to Spring Training with the Rockies in 2003 and made it to the final cut but couldn't quite crack the roster as a utility infielder or backup third baseman. He was designated for assignment and released. "It was actually me and another guy trying to get that final roster spot, but I knew they would keep the guy they drafted," Cameron said of his Rockies experience. "I've been in this game long enough that I know how it works. "I had it made with the Braves, with the money they invested in me as a high draft pick. But my back was up against the wall last year at Spring Training." Cameron was a man without a team late in March and couldn't really find any takers. Refusing to entertain any thoughts about giving up the game, Cameron contacted the JackHammers in April about working the infield in their state-of-the-art stadium near the many riverboat casinos that dot the Des Plaines River. Four of the Joliet front-office members left Myrtle Beach, a high Single-A team for Atlanta, a few years back to start up the JackHammers and were very familiar with Cameron from his 1 1/2 seasons with the Pelicans. The 2003 season was marred and quickly shortened by a freak injury to Cameron's left hand, taking place when he fouled off a pitch with a very normal swing during a game in Winnipeg on June 7. The pain led Cameron to believe he broke his hamate bone, but numerous examinations throughout the rest of the year couldn't pinpoint the injury. Rest was the best cure for Cameron, who couldn't swing the bat for weeks after the injury but is currently back to 100 percent. The lack of work left Cameron worried as to whether he would be picked up by a Major League franchise. But it didn't deter the White Sox, who signed him to a minor league contract. "We are looking for someone who can supply power in Single-A ball and can also supplement the prospects in the Carolina League," said White Sox assistant director of player development Brian Porter. "It's also a way to resurrect his career. "If [Cameron] performs well and takes advantage of the situation, he will force us to consider him for bigger and better things," Porter added. Debates range as to the caliber of play in independent baseball. Some purists scoff at people involved in the league who claim it's the equivalent of Double-A, while others such as Porter and the White Sox figure it's worth performing their due diligence in searching for that diamond in the rough. Jeff Zimmerman, the Texas reliever, worked his way from the Northern League to the American League All-Star team. Cameron played in Joliet alongside Pete Rose Jr., whose dad has been receiving much more publicity lately than his progeny. Rose Jr. will be back with Joliet in 2004, refusing to give up the dream, much like Cameron. While the White Sox signed Cameron for power, he will focus on raising his average to a respectable .260 or .270 level. If he succeeds at Winston-Salem, that long road to the Major Leagues might lead a little more directly to Chicago. "It's all about consistency," Cameron said. "The main difference between the minors and the Majors is that the guys in the big leagues are simply more consistent. "Time is ticking down for me and I either have to figure it out or the game will pass me up. Whatever it takes this year is what I will have to do." Scott Merkin is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to approval by Major League Baseball or its clubs. Isn't that old News? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Rector Posted January 15, 2004 Author Share Posted January 15, 2004 Nope. That story was posted to MLB.com on the 13th of this month. Learn to think before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Nope. That story was posted to MLB.com on the 13th of this month. Learn to think before posting. Actually, that signing was first announced in December... or earlier. With Mike Cameron being on the FA market at the time, I posted the story under the title "Sox get Cameron!" or something to that effect. Maybe that was when the Sox acquired him and this is announcing his agreeing to a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Nope. That story was posted to MLB.com on the 13th of this month. Learn to think before posting. There you are idiot this happened in November. Sox minor league signing Think before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Ohhhh SNAP!!! Note to self.. do not mess with Yas and Matt.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Ohhhh SNAP!!! Note to self.. do not mess with Yas and Matt.. Now what was wrong with my response to him. I thought it was very civil. Yes, I corrected him, but I did so nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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