whitesox247 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I saw article on mlb.com that we got rick white? Or was that there long time ago and i never realized? Why did we get this guy?? I thought we had a SOLID bullpen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Picked him up today. As to the why..... you'd have to ask KW that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 So what would be his role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 He's a good middle reliever, exactly what we needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 So now I'm expecting we send down or trade away someone like Ginter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Ginter will spend the season in AAA. The Sox's bullpen now looks like: Koch Damaso Gordon White Glover Wunch KW said they'll carry 11 pitchers, but i would rather have them carry 12. (the 12th being Almonte) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 so now im expecting we trade away one of our unproven relievers? like ginter or somedin? I suppose, but we won't get much for them....unless we plan on trading for Javier Vazquez...and you think that we'll get him for cheap? I don't...the most we'll get is prospects...I'd trade Ginter, Porzio and Sanders for a couple good prospects about now....if anyone has a decent 1B prospect and a decent catching prospect(in this case, it means that Olivo is a good catching prospect....decent is a catcher that could play like Mark Johnson) that they'd deal for 3 pitchers that may or may not be good. We may need some people in those positions. That would be a good deal, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Ginter will spend the season in AAA. The Sox's bullpen now looks like: Koch Damaso Gordon White Glover Wunch KW said they'll carry 11 pitchers, but i would rather have them carry 12. (the 12th being Almonte) Exactly my thinking mac...but I don't really care whether or not we carry 11 or 12....I'd rather carry 11, so our bench could be a bit deeper(as we didn't have much of a bench last year), but either one is fine....if someone goes down, than Almonte/Sanders takes their spot, unless it's in the rotation, in which case White/Stewart takes their spot....God, I hope none of our starters goes down. If our starting rotation is healthy all year, I will say that we will win the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Ginter will spend the season in AAA. The Sox's bullpen now looks like: Koch Damaso Gordon White Glover Wunch KW said they'll carry 11 pitchers, but i would rather have them carry 12. (the 12th being Almonte) Exactly my thinking mac...but I don't really care whether or not we carry 11 or 12....I'd rather carry 11, so our bench could be a bit deeper(as we didn't have much of a bench last year), but either one is fine....if someone goes down, than Almonte/Sanders takes their spot, unless it's in the rotation, in which case White/Stewart takes their spot....God, I hope none of our starters goes down. If our starting rotation is healthy all year, I will say that we will win the division. but a lot of sports writers and from the sox management team that munoz can come up and play by mid-season if he doesn't break with the team in spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 LDF....who do you leave off the roster than? Koch, Gordon, Wunsch and White are locks to make it because they are signed to contracts, Marte and Glover are because they have proved they are good pitchers in the past....there is no one there to leave off. I think he'll be in AAA and if one of the lefties goes down, then he comes up first(not Sanders...my bad)...I assume what he's doing in AAA is simply stretching out his arm to gain stamina....he's only 21 or so, so he's got plenty of time to do it. As long as he isn't traded or blows out his arm, we are OK...and I think he's got a pretty good idea of what he's doing...so he won't blow it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Munoz has been really overused this past season. That and the Sox's would like to turn him into a starter. I think he'll start slow in either AA or AAA, then get a few starts in both AA and AAA, but unless the Sox's really need bullpen help i dont think he'll be more then a Sep. call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 LDF....who do you leave off the roster than? Koch, Gordon, Wunsch and White are locks to make it because they are signed to contracts, Marte and Glover are because they have proved they are good pitchers in the past....there is no one there to leave off. I think he'll be in AAA and if one of the lefties goes down, then he comes up first(not Sanders...my bad)...I assume what he's doing in AAA is simply stretching out his arm to gain stamina....he's only 21 or so, so he's got plenty of time to do it. As long as he isn't traded or blows out his arm, we are OK...and I think he's got a pretty good idea of what he's doing...so he won't blow it out. all good points, i personally would like to have him start in AAA, as you said to build up. however, i am just reporting what is being said. maybe just maybe kw has learned not to rush anymore pitchers. like he did with rauch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 Rauch is still not ready. I'm not even sure if he recovered from that injury a while ago. Give him one more year in the minors and hopefully all that potential will translate on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Rauch wasn't really rushed, as he had had a couple years experience and no one knew how he was going to pitch coming back from his injury, but he was forced into the rotation....coming out of ST, the Sox had intended on using Glover out of the pen and Parque as a minor league pitcher....and that left us with 5 starters. I think he's learned that maybe we should try out more starters than 5 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Ginter sucks, Porzio sucks, anybody who wants them can have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Sanders won't make the team unless he beats out Jon Rauch for the job, which he won't. If the Sox do indeed carry 11 pitchers, forget about Almonte or Munoz making the squad, if they take 12, Almonte gets the job. This bullpen is pretty stacked, but I have to ask, how are they paying for all of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 The Sox's aren't the poor team they make themselves out to be, there just cheap most of the time. Plus JR is a f***EN RICH BASTARD!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 when we have the players...we get injuries...when we dont have the players...we get completely healthy team.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 The Sox's aren't the poor team they make themselves out to be, there just cheap most of the time. Plus JR is a f***EN RICH BASTARD!! wasn't the ticket prices raised this yr as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 hmmmm we got a nice veteren core of releivers now. I'm liking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 To be honest, even if the Sox can't resign Colon, Koch, Gordon, White, etc. it'll still be nice to see the Sox give it their all to try and go all the way this year. The Good Guys are BACK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Koch is a White Sox for the next 3 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 To be honest, even if the Sox can't resign Colon, Koch, Gordon, White, etc. it'll still be nice to see the Sox give it their all to try and go all the way this year. The Good Guys are BACK! then why stop there, go out and sign cruz to help in the cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 If we look like the Yanks, then the Cubs look like the Mets....because atleast we will be good after all of our offseason moves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 If we look like the Yanks, then the Cubs look like the Mets....because atleast we will be good after all of our offseason moves! and with all the positive moves that kw has made and if they pan out. i guess i will have to think nice of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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